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The Reward

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@Jesus_is_LORD

So we have the inheritance is eternal life, and the reward is eternal life, and now I will show with scripture that the gift is eternal life.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

So you agree that the gift is eternal life?
 
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Now the gift is eternal life, just as the scripture says, and there are some other scriptures about the gift, and we are told the Holy Spirit is the gift.

We know though that the Holy Spirit is why we will have eternal life.

John 4:10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.


The scripture says the gift is eternal life, and scriptures say the gift is the Holy Spirit.

You agree?
Is there anything you want to say before I go on to the promise?
 
Loyal
Now the gift is eternal life, just as the scripture says, and there are some other scriptures about the gift, and we are told the Holy Spirit is the gift.

We know though that the Holy Spirit is why we will have eternal life.

John 4:10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.


The scripture says the gift is eternal life, and scriptures say the gift is the Holy Spirit.

You agree?
Is there anything you want to say before I go on to the promise?

Yes I agree.

Nothing to say, so far so clear.
 
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Yes I agree.

Nothing to say, so far so clear.

Okay, so good to hear that, because remember you were skeptical when I said the inheritance, the reward, gift, the promise, and the crown were all eternal life in the kingdom of heaven?

So next I will show with scripture that the promise is eternal life...
 
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The PROMISE.


Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.


I think you will agree that the promise is eternal life?
 
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The gift is the Holy Spirit and also the promise.

Acts 1:4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.


So in this post and the one above, I have shown with scriptures that the gift is eternal life, and the gift is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus calls the gift of the Holy Spirit was promised by the Father.
 
Loyal
Okay, so good to hear that, because remember you were skeptical when I said the inheritance, the reward, gift, the promise, and the crown were all eternal life in the kingdom of heaven?

So next I will show with scripture that the promise is eternal life...

Understood.
 
Loyal
The PROMISE.


Hebrews 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.


I think you will agree that the promise is eternal life?

Yes, I agree.
 
Loyal
The gift is the Holy Spirit and also the promise.

Acts 1:4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.


So in this post and the one above, I have shown with scriptures that the gift is eternal life, and the gift is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus calls the gift of the Holy Spirit was promised by the Father.

Your examples reminds me of this verse.

Luke 11:13
Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?
Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion
?
If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your
Father in heaven give the
Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

Romans 8:10-11
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, He that raised up Christ
from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you."


In the first verse it speaks of God knowing how to give good gifts, and giving the Holy Spirit.
Since the Holy is also the gift, we can look at Romans 8 and see how this eternal life
comes by the spirit. Because those who have the spirit have life.

Amen.
Thanks for the walk through :love: :cool:
 
Loyal
Come to realize it, yea I know the gift is eternal life.

On verse two, around 2 minutes 3 seconds in, I shared
that on this song I composed this week. I do lots of music for fun.

 
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Your examples reminds me of this verse.

Luke 11:13
“Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?
Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion?
If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your
Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

Romans 8:10-11
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, He that raised up Christ
from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you."


In the first verse it speaks of God knowing how to give good gifts, and giving the Holy Spirit.
Since the Holy is also the gift, we can look at Romans 8 and see how this eternal life
comes by the spirit. Because those who have the spirit have life.

Amen.
Thanks for the walk through :love: :cool:
Yes, exactly! Those two scriptures making that connection of the gift and the promise being eternal life AND the Holy Spirit helps show that having eternal life in the kingdom of heaven is done by the Holy Spirit. So we can see how both gifts and both promises work together.
 
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Come to realize it, yea I know the gift is eternal life.

On verse two, around 2 minutes 3 seconds in, I shared
that on this song I composed this week. I do lots of music for fun.

Wow, so cool, what a blessing for you and your family and friends to be able to make beautiful music to the Lord.
I always wished that someone in my family could have that kind of talent to bring some live music in the house. lol
 
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@Jesus_is_LORD

So we have now shown with scripture that the gift is eternal life, and the inheritance is the eternal life, and the reward is eternal life, and the promise is eternal life...next post I will show that the crown is eternal life.
 
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Now this first scripture about the crown doesn't specifically say the crown is eternal life, but it does say the crown will last forever.

1 Corinthians 9:25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.


This scripture is clear that the crown is ETERNAL LIFE...

Revelation 2:1 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor's crown.
 
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Now this first scripture about the crown doesn't specifically say the crown is eternal life, but it does say the crown will last forever.

1 Corinthians 9:25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.


This scripture is clear that the crown is ETERNAL LIFE...

Revelation 2:1 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor's crown.

That scripture is Revelation 2:10 not 2:1.

Revelations 2:10 Revelation 2:1 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor's crown.
 
Loyal
That scripture is Revelation 2:10 not 2:1.

Revelations 2:10 Revelation 2:1 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor's crown.

Good solid connection there.
 
Loyal
So what does Jesus mean in your interpretation when he says

"And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."
- John 14:3

What needs to be prepared in heaven? Isn't eternal life of the Holy Spirit ready for the giving?
What is being prepared in heaven? Is he doing the same preparations for all, or
do other have preparations exclusive to them?

"In my house are many mansions", this symbolism of actual heavenly mansion, whatever it is,
will everyone have the same? Are there bigger "mansions" for some and smaller for others?
 
Loyal
Wow, so cool, what a blessing for you and your family and friends to be able to make beautiful music to the Lord.
I always wished that someone in my family could have that kind of talent to bring some live music in the house. lol

I thank God for the gift of music.

My parents had be take music lessons in 5th grade
from a classically trained piano teacher.

I didn't want to, I thought piano was just for girls.

But I like my parents approach.

They said, we will make you start, but if you don't
like it you can stop, but you must at least try it.

So I tried it and I liked it.

I did music in high school, all shore, all county, and one year I made all state chorus (that was 24 years ago, my voice is not at good)

I started giving piano lessons in 10 grade.
I sang in my church youth choir in high school in addition to being in school choir.
Later in 11th grade (1990s) I was the pianist for one of the church choirs, playing the hymns ( East New Market Linkwood Charge UMC )
Then took a long music break, and later played with a church choir in 2013 ( www.huberchurch.org )
and now I play with the music ministry at another church 2016-present . ( Home )

I both read sheet music and play by hear. Although my training is to read music and later in 2013 at Huber those musicians thought me
to improvise and play by hear as well as jazz. Playing bass and saxophone lines on the keyboard.

My music education is (classical, gospel, jazz, and choral)
Currently I just make music to uplift people or praise God.
To God be the glory.
 
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