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You need to read the bible again..And this time you need to look for the catching up of the saints....It IS there.Just some quick thoughts, one although alot of people especially Babtist believe in the rapture and say "Its in the Bible" Its not in the Bible. They often use 2 verses in revelations to prove their point. While also scaring kids into false faith (not all people, but alot are living a scared faith.) 2, throughout the Bible, who are taken away? The believer or the non-believer? In most cases its the non-believer. (Like what happened to the people who worshiped the golden calf.) No the Bible doesnt tell us, although it does have 2 verses in Revelations saying "there were 2 men in the field"---"and his companion was taken up." The Bible doesnt explicitly state the cause of the mans disapearence. In most cases in the Bible the non believer is the one taken away. Leaving the believers on earth to suffer and wait until the coming of Christ. But the Bible does not support a definitivabout e "rapture" making the claim of it being an upcoming event is a hypothesis, and can not be proved by the Bible. Making it a false statement to say its true. In the end its who we place our faith in, and not all the nooks and crannies. God bless!!!
You need to read the bible again..And this time you need to look for the catching up of the saints....It IS there.
You're looking to me to respond? To what? You're looking at the word like a literary group looks at a work of their favorite author...They always try to tell the author what he meant in his work....All he meant though, is what he said! If the Word says it one way, who are we to Translate it to something else for our comfort? I mean, that's just stupid, right?1 Thessalonians 4:17 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the LORD in the air. And so we will be with the LORD forever.
The word air in Greek ment breathe, the breath of life, your spiritual body. NOT atmosphere, NOT sky,
Paul spoke colloquial Greek, so when he says cloud, he deosnt mean a sky cloud. This term would mean a cloud of blackbirds, or a Cloud of fish. He means a "cloud" of people. In Hebrews chapter 12 Paul says "We Christians are going together as a great cloud of witnesses..." Its a figure of speech. In Ezekiel God says to beware of false teaching, that hes tired of his children being subjugated to the worlds lies. Ezekiel talks about women (its itallicized meaning all people) sewing pillowsto cover up Gods word. Teaching people to fly to save their souls. In the next couple verses God says. "I am against your Pillows.." Anyways looking foreward for you to respond, helps me study more and think alot. God bless you man!
We agree that our eternal destiny is here on earth after God has finally dealt with death and decay, and that Jesus wins the victory for us,Hekuran -- there's a rapture -- the Church is taken up by Jesus Christ in the air -- it's talked about in 1 Thessalonians 4 :15 - end of chapter. The debate has been as to the timing of it. There is the pre-trib , mid-trib and post-tribulation time frames for that rapturing / taking up / Of the body of believers known as the Church.
And there's also the passage that talks about two out in the field -- one is taken and the other left -- and two being in bed -- one being taken and the other left. The believers being the one's taken up and the non-believer 'left behind."
Actually -- when a person reads the end of Revelation - chapter 20 or so. "heaven" is going to be brought down to this earth in the form of the New Jerusalem / the Holy City.
But -- after Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead -- proving He was indeed the Son of God. -- He ascended back up into heaven. He did That so that the Holy Spirit could come. The point being that He ascended up to heaven, they watched Him. And the angel said not to be afraid or 'whatever' because He Would come back in the future. So -- Biblically - we Do think of heaven as being 'up in the sky somewhere'.
Our everlasting heavenly home will be right here on earth -- After the old earth has been destroyed. It's all in the book of Revelation.
And we Will be given a new , glorified body -- completely free of sin -- upon our death or being raptured up -- which ever happens first.
And, yes, our victory Is through Jesus Christ . the Son of God.
If you can lose your salvation, then you can't tell people Jesus is your Savior yet until you get to Heaven.running a race is about rewards,
inheritance is about salvation,
one you earn and can loose,
one is a gift very simple.