Here is the perfect example of one who sits in judgement on those who do not speak in tongues. I have said repeatedly that one of my issues with modern day tongues is that christians who practice tongue set themselves up as more spiritual that others. Unfortunately Newman, you have taken this position in your response to Hebrews11. There has been good open discussion on this subject and most have been humble in their approach. Your attitude smacks of the spiritual arrogance that I find so typical of tongue speakers.NewMan said:To: Hebrews11
As I said.... You cannot see, for you do not wish to see. You even said why you dont wish to see "I don't want the accounibility." You say, seek Prophesy 1st... Well, If I told you I also had the gift of prophesy, you would surly scoff at that too.
I know your heart for I have delt with many well meaning Brother's like you... You couch you faith in what you see and can understand thru intellect and the Logic of men and not the faith of a child. thus, you blind yourself with tactics of this world at the expence of the glory of the Kingdom of God.......Bad trade.
Jesus wants to fill you with this gift, it is up to you to drain your moat, drop your walls and open your doors and let Jesus in.... Perhaps later, but for now you refuse... He is knocking.
So, it is confirmed, you also scorn divine Healing, modern day prophesy and visions as something that died with the apostils and therefore you foolishly assume these, can only be of Satan. How sad... "They shale have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof, from such turn away...ever learning but never coming to the truth." and you say I am in danger? For You dare make suggestions that I am a false prophet simply because I believe Jesus can do more today then you do? (sigh)
Rather than bantering about foolishly any more, I will leave you in the Hands of Jesus. Talk to "Your tongue talk'en Friend"... Jesus will use him now to reach you.
As for everyone else, take what Hebrews11 says (about this subject only) lightly. He has no respect for this gift from God and thus has not been given, nore can he even hear, true spiritual understanding of it. He is like a person who has never seen a bible, trying to explain how King David felt about reading the word of God and how it can't possibly be as sweet as honey. He has no spiritual context. His fruits of the Spirit are in short supply regaurding this particular subject as well.
So, lets cut hebrews11 some slack. For, I am convinced he is a fine Christain in all other ways. Please join me and pray for him and worship Jesus for what he is going to do in Hebrews' life... Perhaps thru time he will see... amen:thumbs_up
jiggyfly said:The flesh is usually freaked out by the things of the Spirit.The things of the Spirit can only be understood spiritually not with our carnal abilities.
Jiggyfly . I don't care what anyone thinks about you . You are a very wise and mature man of God . God Bless You Brother ! You truly have been a blessing to me ! Mike :thumbs_up :computer:jiggyfly said:For every one that believes speaking in tongues is no longer available - it isn't, but for all those who are seeking it is very available. You see there is a Kingdom principle - seek and you shall find, ask and it shall be given unto you.
lnrobar said:I know this may be late, and I haven't got a chance to read everyone's response, but I for one know what you are talking about when you say "slain in the spirit."
It is hard to understand what happens to someone who is "Slain" but you must know this, you should lean not into your own understanding. I also know what you mean when you speak of "dance". I go to a full gospel baptist church, and visit holiness churches.
Personally speaking here is someone who has been "slain". As most call it. It is a feeling undescribable, and the most awesome experience that could have brought me closer to the Lord. I do not know in fact where in the Bible it talks about this, but like I said, I havent read anyone's response yet either----------
Sis in Christ