Seriously ill
- Thread starter Apple
- Start date
- Joined
- Apr 25, 2006
- Messages
- 18,404
Father I pray that you will fill my dear sister with your wonderful peace that passes all understanding and with Your comfort. Help her to read the Psalms with understanding and apply them personally to herself. May she read Psalm 93 and learn to praise You for who You are. I pray that she will have less pain and be able to get out in this beautiful hot sunny weather we are having right now in Jesus' name amen.
SLE -
I am so scared of spending eternity in hell because I didn't understand what I am supposed to be doing. I have tried so hard to understand and to follow all that I have been told to do on this forum, but there is so much to remember and to learn. Is it just me or does everybody find it so difficult to begin with?
I am still longing for this relationship with God that everybody is talking about. It sounds so wonderful and yet it seems beyond my reach at the moment.
Sadeyes, you do not have to do anything.
Ephesians 2:9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith- and this this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God."
We do not have to do a thing! This is the wonderful Good News.
Just believe dear sister, just believe and have faith in Him our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
Stop comparing yourself to all on this forum. It is not the standard to go by. It is not a competition, it is not a race. Just rest and relax. You are expecting so much in such a short space of time.
We all learn and grow at different paces.
Saddeyes.... Have you repented from your sin, turned from sin and turned to God? Do you believe Jesus is the son of God, and He died and shed his blood for you and paid the penalty for your sin, do you believe God raised Jesus from the dead? Do you believe that Jesus ..."He is the Way the Truth and the Life, and the only way to the Father." John 14:6
If this is so, then this is the foundation to build your relationship on with Jesus Christ. It is as simple as that.
God bless you and may He bring you peace in Jesus name.
Thank you for your prayers. I am pleased to say that I was able to go out and sit in the garden this afternoon. The weather was beautiful and it was good to feel the sun on my skin.
"you do not have to do anything.
Ephesians 2:9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith- and this this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God."
We do not have to do a thing! This is the wonderful Good News."
I understand that Calluna, but my understanding (which could be totally wrong) from all of the posts that I have read is that once somebody becomes a Christian, there is SO MUCH to learn to do. It is like another world eg I have to learn to read the Bible, I have to learn to pray, I have to learn to recognise God's voice ... The list goes on and on. This is why I have found it all so overwhelming.
"Stop comparing yourself to all on this forum. It is not the standard to go by. It is not a competition, it is not a race. Just rest and relax."
In the past three weeks, I have spent a lot of time on this site reading posts etc. It is my only way of finding out what I should be doing as a Christian. I realise that it is not a competition nor a race, but when I read the posts that describe something eg listening to God's voice, then I am led to believe that I am supposed to be doing that now. It is only when people go on to explain that it took them years to learn how to do it, that I can think to myself that actually, nobody is expecting me to do it right NOW!!
"You are expecting so much in such a short space of time."
Am I?
The problem is that I do not know what is expected of a 3 week old Christian. As I said before, I can only go by what I read in the different posts!
"you do not have to do anything.
Ephesians 2:9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith- and this this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God."
We do not have to do a thing! This is the wonderful Good News."
I understand that Calluna, but my understanding (which could be totally wrong) from all of the posts that I have read is that once somebody becomes a Christian, there is SO MUCH to learn to do. It is like another world eg I have to learn to read the Bible, I have to learn to pray, I have to learn to recognise God's voice ... The list goes on and on. This is why I have found it all so overwhelming.
"Stop comparing yourself to all on this forum. It is not the standard to go by. It is not a competition, it is not a race. Just rest and relax."
In the past three weeks, I have spent a lot of time on this site reading posts etc. It is my only way of finding out what I should be doing as a Christian. I realise that it is not a competition nor a race, but when I read the posts that describe something eg listening to God's voice, then I am led to believe that I am supposed to be doing that now. It is only when people go on to explain that it took them years to learn how to do it, that I can think to myself that actually, nobody is expecting me to do it right NOW!!
"You are expecting so much in such a short space of time."
Am I?
The problem is that I do not know what is expected of a 3 week old Christian. As I said before, I can only go by what I read in the different posts!
Hi Brighteyes,
Let me ask you a very practical question. What would
you expect from a 3 week old baby? You would expect
to hold it, feed it, clothe it, rock it, change dirty
diapers, soothe its crying etc...
I think what has happened, at least for me, was that
in the beginning I assumed you were a seasoned
Christian struggling with unforgiveness. It wasn't
until I started asking you about salvation that I
realized where you really were in all of this.
I think we just need to start giving you the milk of
the Word before trying to give you all of the meat.
Yes, you do need to start reading God's word
because that is His love letter to you and your
spiritual food. However, don't try to just cram.
Take in a little each day. What you can glean then
glean it. What seems hard to digest then
trust that God will use it when He is ready.
The neat thing is that so much of this is going into
your spirit even though your mind is having such
a hard time comprehending it. Please, sweetie, just
take a deep breath, thank Jesus for His love and
thank Him that He is faithful and He is with you
every step of the way! Don't beat yourself up. Just
bask in His love and His Word. The book of John or
I John is where I usually take new Christians to study.
Philippians 1:3-6 (NKJV)
vs. 3 - I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,
vs. 4 - always in every prayer of mine making request for you all with joy,
vs. 5 for your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now,
vs. 6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
Jesus began a good work in you the day of
salvation. He will be faithful to you. Just try to enjoy Him. Everything you have been taught has gone into your spirit, I promise!
God says in Isaiah 55:11 (NKJV) "So shall My word be that goes forth
from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what
I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it."
God will lead you as you walk with Him daily! Just like you talk with
us daily, talk with Him the same way. We're here to walk with you.
None of us grew to where we are overnight. It took a daily relationship with Jesus and, believe it or not, messing up some along the way.
Jesus loves you and holds you very, very close!
Let me ask you a very practical question. What would
you expect from a 3 week old baby? You would expect
to hold it, feed it, clothe it, rock it, change dirty
diapers, soothe its crying etc...
I think what has happened, at least for me, was that
in the beginning I assumed you were a seasoned
Christian struggling with unforgiveness. It wasn't
until I started asking you about salvation that I
realized where you really were in all of this.
I think we just need to start giving you the milk of
the Word before trying to give you all of the meat.
Yes, you do need to start reading God's word
because that is His love letter to you and your
spiritual food. However, don't try to just cram.
Take in a little each day. What you can glean then
glean it. What seems hard to digest then
trust that God will use it when He is ready.
The neat thing is that so much of this is going into
your spirit even though your mind is having such
a hard time comprehending it. Please, sweetie, just
take a deep breath, thank Jesus for His love and
thank Him that He is faithful and He is with you
every step of the way! Don't beat yourself up. Just
bask in His love and His Word. The book of John or
I John is where I usually take new Christians to study.
Philippians 1:3-6 (NKJV)
vs. 3 - I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,
vs. 4 - always in every prayer of mine making request for you all with joy,
vs. 5 for your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now,
vs. 6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
Jesus began a good work in you the day of
salvation. He will be faithful to you. Just try to enjoy Him. Everything you have been taught has gone into your spirit, I promise!
God says in Isaiah 55:11 (NKJV) "So shall My word be that goes forth
from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what
I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it."
God will lead you as you walk with Him daily! Just like you talk with
us daily, talk with Him the same way. We're here to walk with you.
None of us grew to where we are overnight. It took a daily relationship with Jesus and, believe it or not, messing up some along the way.
Jesus loves you and holds you very, very close!
Last edited:
Sadeyes, It is wonderful that you got to enjoy the sunshine. We just need to enjoy this journey walking with our Lord, not get all stressed out over it. Jesus is the Prince of Peace, He brings peace, joy, love.
This is a bit about myself and my walk with the Lord.
I got saved years ago, I wasn't discipled too well, and I didn't pursue the Lord and I just strayed away to do my sinful thing. It was only up until about 4 years ago, that I re-committed my life to Christ and really started walking the walk and really started reading the Word of God and finding out who He really is.
One thing I struggle with is memorizing scriptures, I am improving with this, though it takes time and effort, and just a plain desire to know God's Word. I write out index cards with scripture on, and read them over to myself. But no-one told me what to write, or how much or how long. The Holy spirit just guides me, when I read something that really speaks to my heart, and it applies to something specific in my life, I write it out and learn it. I wanted to learn salvation scriptures, so I could be a better witness when the opportunity arises. And it has and the Lord has used me.
A year and a half ago, the Lord led me to a bible study group. And guess what book they were learning? the Book of John. And I have to tell you the truth, I really haven't studied this book before properly, even when I first got saved. (John is the first book, new believers in Christ ought read.) And that is over a decade ago. I had read it, but not properly. And I am ok admitting this.
You see what I am trying to say? From what I know now compared to four years ago, is a huge amount. To me and to me alone. To someone else, it maybe a fraction to what they know. Do I care? no not anymore, because I know I am doing what I am meant to be doing, and learning and growing at the pace that is right for me and God is right there guiding me along. No pressure, no stress.
I do hope this helps. I am praying for you, and I hope you are managing each day well, and you are not in too much discomfort. I pray for healing for you in Jesus name.
Calluna
This is a bit about myself and my walk with the Lord.
I got saved years ago, I wasn't discipled too well, and I didn't pursue the Lord and I just strayed away to do my sinful thing. It was only up until about 4 years ago, that I re-committed my life to Christ and really started walking the walk and really started reading the Word of God and finding out who He really is.
One thing I struggle with is memorizing scriptures, I am improving with this, though it takes time and effort, and just a plain desire to know God's Word. I write out index cards with scripture on, and read them over to myself. But no-one told me what to write, or how much or how long. The Holy spirit just guides me, when I read something that really speaks to my heart, and it applies to something specific in my life, I write it out and learn it. I wanted to learn salvation scriptures, so I could be a better witness when the opportunity arises. And it has and the Lord has used me.
A year and a half ago, the Lord led me to a bible study group. And guess what book they were learning? the Book of John. And I have to tell you the truth, I really haven't studied this book before properly, even when I first got saved. (John is the first book, new believers in Christ ought read.) And that is over a decade ago. I had read it, but not properly. And I am ok admitting this.
You see what I am trying to say? From what I know now compared to four years ago, is a huge amount. To me and to me alone. To someone else, it maybe a fraction to what they know. Do I care? no not anymore, because I know I am doing what I am meant to be doing, and learning and growing at the pace that is right for me and God is right there guiding me along. No pressure, no stress.
I do hope this helps. I am praying for you, and I hope you are managing each day well, and you are not in too much discomfort. I pray for healing for you in Jesus name.
Calluna
Last edited:
Word of Life
Member
- Joined
- Jun 26, 2006
- Messages
- 558
I am glad to hear that you are feeling much better Sadeyes, getting some sunshine will do you the world of good.
There is some good advice for you here, as He will guide at you own pace, not at my pace nor at anyone elses pace, but your pace. You see God knows your heart, and He will know exactly how to lead you and what you can take in during a course of a day.
I acknowledged this myself, as I too was like you and wanted everything what everyone else was experiencing at once, I spent hours reading my Bible, for example, say I was reading it for 3 hours, did any of it sink in, right to my heart, did I apply what I had just read. Nope, I just read it like a novel and this was my biggest mistake. I take things more slowly now, I spend a lot of time just looking at a few scriptures, rather then reading loads of chapters.
So just take your time. You are doing wonderfully well. I can see a big difference in you, and I really mean that.
There is some good advice for you here, as He will guide at you own pace, not at my pace nor at anyone elses pace, but your pace. You see God knows your heart, and He will know exactly how to lead you and what you can take in during a course of a day.
I acknowledged this myself, as I too was like you and wanted everything what everyone else was experiencing at once, I spent hours reading my Bible, for example, say I was reading it for 3 hours, did any of it sink in, right to my heart, did I apply what I had just read. Nope, I just read it like a novel and this was my biggest mistake. I take things more slowly now, I spend a lot of time just looking at a few scriptures, rather then reading loads of chapters.
So just take your time. You are doing wonderfully well. I can see a big difference in you, and I really mean that.
SpiritLedEd
Member
- Joined
- Aug 14, 2005
- Messages
- 5,315
SadEyes,
What I am posting here is intended only to help you get relief from the anxiety you feel about God; I pray that you will not be offended. You have been asking what you are doing wrong, as things don't seem to be working out the way they should.I think God has revealed the answer to that question.
You are an intelligent person with a very inquisitive mind; a person who enjoys puzzles and other problem solving challenges. You love learning and your natural bent is to search out the "why" of things. Perhaps you grew up believing that, given enough time, you can pretty much solve any puzzle that comes your way.
At the human level, some people are so gifted. But, at the Divine level, it's quite a different story. God, the All Powerful Creator of the Universe, is beyond our understanding. Our knowledge of Him and understanding of His works is limited to what He has revealed to us about Himself in Scripture. Try as we may, we will never understand God at the level of understanding you are trying to reach.
I suggest that you carefully read and meditate on Isaiah 55:7-12 (I'm not going to quote the Scripture here; it is a bit too long for this post). More than any other citation I can think of, these verses lay out the definitive comparison between God and man. You will see that there is a wide, unspannable gulf between God and man, intellectually speaking.
You will have great emotional relief when you cease struggling to understand the things of God that cannot be understood at our level and start believing these things by faith alone for, as the Scripture says, ":We walk by faith, not by sight (understanding)." (2 Cor 5:7)
We love you, SadEyes, and we cannot wait until you are delivered from the burden of having to understand.
SLE
What I am posting here is intended only to help you get relief from the anxiety you feel about God; I pray that you will not be offended. You have been asking what you are doing wrong, as things don't seem to be working out the way they should.I think God has revealed the answer to that question.
You are an intelligent person with a very inquisitive mind; a person who enjoys puzzles and other problem solving challenges. You love learning and your natural bent is to search out the "why" of things. Perhaps you grew up believing that, given enough time, you can pretty much solve any puzzle that comes your way.
At the human level, some people are so gifted. But, at the Divine level, it's quite a different story. God, the All Powerful Creator of the Universe, is beyond our understanding. Our knowledge of Him and understanding of His works is limited to what He has revealed to us about Himself in Scripture. Try as we may, we will never understand God at the level of understanding you are trying to reach.
I suggest that you carefully read and meditate on Isaiah 55:7-12 (I'm not going to quote the Scripture here; it is a bit too long for this post). More than any other citation I can think of, these verses lay out the definitive comparison between God and man. You will see that there is a wide, unspannable gulf between God and man, intellectually speaking.
You will have great emotional relief when you cease struggling to understand the things of God that cannot be understood at our level and start believing these things by faith alone for, as the Scripture says, ":We walk by faith, not by sight (understanding)." (2 Cor 5:7)
We love you, SadEyes, and we cannot wait until you are delivered from the burden of having to understand.
SLE
Thank you SLE for your reply. First of all, I am not offended by it at all. I am however a little bit shocked by it for the following reasons:
1. - Your statement - "I think God has revealed the answer to that question." Has he? If he has, then I have missed it.
2. - Your statement - "we will never understand God at the level of understanding you are trying to reach."
From my viewpoint, I wasn't trying to understand God, I was just trying to understand what I was supposed to be doing as,
" I am still longing for this relationship with God that everybody is talking about ".
I read Isaiah 55: 7-12. What fantastic verses! I have said all along that God is Almighty and I am nothing in comparison to him. I am not trying to understand him nor his ways. I will never be able to do that.
What I am trying to do is to have this relationship with him that I believe he was offering me when I read the Father's love letter.
This, I believe, is the same relationship that people on this forum have with God.
This is the relationship that I want!
I'm just trying to find out how to have such a relationship with God.
I hope that this makes sense to you. Thank you for your prayers.
1. - Your statement - "I think God has revealed the answer to that question." Has he? If he has, then I have missed it.
2. - Your statement - "we will never understand God at the level of understanding you are trying to reach."
From my viewpoint, I wasn't trying to understand God, I was just trying to understand what I was supposed to be doing as,
" I am still longing for this relationship with God that everybody is talking about ".
I read Isaiah 55: 7-12. What fantastic verses! I have said all along that God is Almighty and I am nothing in comparison to him. I am not trying to understand him nor his ways. I will never be able to do that.
What I am trying to do is to have this relationship with him that I believe he was offering me when I read the Father's love letter.
This, I believe, is the same relationship that people on this forum have with God.
This is the relationship that I want!
I'm just trying to find out how to have such a relationship with God.
I hope that this makes sense to you. Thank you for your prayers.
Yesterday evening I was in a lot of pain again. When the pain gets that bad, I often feel that I should just kill myself because there is no quality of life when living with such pain. Please don't shout me down on that thought because I can predict that you are going to say that it would be wrong to kill myself. All I am going to say is that it is so hard to sustain a motivation to live when your body is in so much pain.
I was also jealous of LLJ's healing (please don't shout me down on that either as I am only being honest with you!). I was obviously very pleased for her - I am not an unkind person - but I also wanted to experience that kind of healing for myself.
I was very grateful to Dreamer for praying for me and asking other people to pray for me via the shoutbox.
...
This morning, I have still been in pain, but it hasn't been as acute as last night. I have been able to sit in the garden which was lovely.
The most amazing thing happened while I was outside. I was talking to God and I actually had a glimpse of his love for me and in that moment, I was glad to be alive!
Now for you, that might not be a big deal, but for me, it was AWESOME!!!!!
Thank you for all of your prayers.
I was also jealous of LLJ's healing (please don't shout me down on that either as I am only being honest with you!). I was obviously very pleased for her - I am not an unkind person - but I also wanted to experience that kind of healing for myself.
I was very grateful to Dreamer for praying for me and asking other people to pray for me via the shoutbox.
...
This morning, I have still been in pain, but it hasn't been as acute as last night. I have been able to sit in the garden which was lovely.
The most amazing thing happened while I was outside. I was talking to God and I actually had a glimpse of his love for me and in that moment, I was glad to be alive!
Now for you, that might not be a big deal, but for me, it was AWESOME!!!!!
Thank you for all of your prayers.
Good morning!
That is a very big deal!!!! We are praying for you, and I am asking for
miracles in your life, spiritually, physically and emotionally total whole-
ness in every way! Our salvation is the biggest miracle and just knowing our loving, heavenly Daddy! What a gift! Just keep talking with your Daddy God! Jesus loves you and He loves being your best friend!
Love you much!
That is a very big deal!!!! We are praying for you, and I am asking for
miracles in your life, spiritually, physically and emotionally total whole-
ness in every way! Our salvation is the biggest miracle and just knowing our loving, heavenly Daddy! What a gift! Just keep talking with your Daddy God! Jesus loves you and He loves being your best friend!
Love you much!
Dreamer
Member
- Joined
- Nov 18, 2005
- Messages
- 2,134
Your healing is coming, dear sadeyes.
Your prayers and our prayers for you are being answered.
I am glad you are honest with us. It is essential to your healing. You are learning to hear God's voice and learning to trust Him. You already caught that glimpse of his great and beautiful love for you.
You are on my heart; and when I woke up in the night I prayed for you.
God truly has you on His mind and is holding you and watching you. Each little step you take, brings you closer to His healing.
This is for real, because God is real. He's more real than life itself.
Father God, please bring sadeye's pain down so that she can enjoy the sunshine today and take time to read her bible and pray. Speak to her clearly, Father, and bring out your healing in her body, life, spirit and mind, I pray in Jesus name. amen.
Your prayers and our prayers for you are being answered.
I am glad you are honest with us. It is essential to your healing. You are learning to hear God's voice and learning to trust Him. You already caught that glimpse of his great and beautiful love for you.
You are on my heart; and when I woke up in the night I prayed for you.
God truly has you on His mind and is holding you and watching you. Each little step you take, brings you closer to His healing.
This is for real, because God is real. He's more real than life itself.
Father God, please bring sadeye's pain down so that she can enjoy the sunshine today and take time to read her bible and pray. Speak to her clearly, Father, and bring out your healing in her body, life, spirit and mind, I pray in Jesus name. amen.
Lucky Lady
Member
- Joined
- Mar 16, 2007
- Messages
- 24
Hi Sadeyes,
I just want you to know that i am also praying for you.
I would also like to add (or more or else repeat what most people have been telling you.)However nothing seems easy to say considering the intense pain you are going thru,but i will try.
Keep on holding on,do not give up,only God has the last word on your life.
Suicide is not an option and keep on repeating this to the devil.
Let the one who gave you life come and take it himself,and when he does,then we can say you fought the good fight.Remember you are in a fight and you must win.
Please confess positively,all the times.This is because Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.Let your self hear you confessing positive even when it does not seem to make sense.Do it just because the Bible says so,be obedient and God will fulfill his part.
For example confess like David did,that "I will live and not die,to see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the Living" among other verses.
When you feel like crying loudly,cry with the Psalms like David did.
You were also asking whether there is something that you are not doing right,maybe it is the Holy Spirit who is bringing this into light,so analyze yourself and if there is something, you will know and make it right,you are the only one who knows yourself.Don't take this for granted.
It is my hope that we will be calling you by another name soon.
God bless you.
I just want you to know that i am also praying for you.
I would also like to add (or more or else repeat what most people have been telling you.)However nothing seems easy to say considering the intense pain you are going thru,but i will try.
Keep on holding on,do not give up,only God has the last word on your life.
Suicide is not an option and keep on repeating this to the devil.
Let the one who gave you life come and take it himself,and when he does,then we can say you fought the good fight.Remember you are in a fight and you must win.
Please confess positively,all the times.This is because Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.Let your self hear you confessing positive even when it does not seem to make sense.Do it just because the Bible says so,be obedient and God will fulfill his part.
For example confess like David did,that "I will live and not die,to see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the Living" among other verses.
When you feel like crying loudly,cry with the Psalms like David did.
You were also asking whether there is something that you are not doing right,maybe it is the Holy Spirit who is bringing this into light,so analyze yourself and if there is something, you will know and make it right,you are the only one who knows yourself.Don't take this for granted.
It is my hope that we will be calling you by another name soon.
God bless you.
dorothyday
Member
- Joined
- Apr 18, 2007
- Messages
- 10
Dear Sadeyes,
I am so sorry for the terrible pain that you are feeling both physically and Spiritually. It is understandable that you cry out as the Psalmist did, and as Our Blessed Lord did as He hung from the Cross: "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani!--Lord!,Lord!! why have you abandoned me??!!!!!"
Suffering is horrible, especially when it is we that suffer. But Jesus, fully man and fully God told us that we must follow Him, and He suffered. Unite your sufferings to His, Sadeyes. At the end of His sufferings was Resurrection! And if we follow Him, at the end of our sufferings Resurrection too awaits!!!!
You are not alone. Ever.
God loves you.
I am so sorry for the terrible pain that you are feeling both physically and Spiritually. It is understandable that you cry out as the Psalmist did, and as Our Blessed Lord did as He hung from the Cross: "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani!--Lord!,Lord!! why have you abandoned me??!!!!!"
Suffering is horrible, especially when it is we that suffer. But Jesus, fully man and fully God told us that we must follow Him, and He suffered. Unite your sufferings to His, Sadeyes. At the end of His sufferings was Resurrection! And if we follow Him, at the end of our sufferings Resurrection too awaits!!!!
You are not alone. Ever.
God loves you.
