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Quran A false Writing

Rhema
The last time I checked, there were some 34,ooo Denomanations in This World !

There are as many sects or families that come under the hearing of Christ's faith as a labor of love or Christ's teaching authority .Tw or three a family makes up one sect or nation

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

The bible informs the believers there must be differences in opinion called heresy among true believers .

The eternal kingdom does not come by looking as the historical dying temporal as private interpretation, or again personal commentary what each person believes.

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

There can be oral traditons of dying mankind as long as they do not do despite to the fullness of Grace the whole cost of salvation

False Apostles bringing false prohecy like the gospel of Thomas disqualify themselves

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
 
Do not the Muslims say that one can only understand the Quran if one reads the original Arabic?
Let's say they do. (They do.)
Now if you haven't read the Quran in Arabic, then whatever wisdom you may have distilled from your study is suspect.

But now let's also say that you do read the Quran in Arabic. I would ask, which version? The Muslim will deny that there is more than one version, even when seeing the proof right in front of their eyes.

So which version, and then which translation am I supposed to read? (I've not found any English translation of the Bible to be %100 accurate.)

And the Muslim doesn't even know where Mecca is.

Did you know that? While Islam is said to have started in 610 AD, there is no archaeological record in Mecca before 800 AD.

Now if they can't get that straight, why should I bother wasting my time reading their mythology?

Every Deep Seeker should watch this. (Once you do I'd be happy to continue our discourse.)

Rhema

RHEMA
Are Todays' Christian in better shape ? ?
 
REHMA

How long is THAT AGE OF GRACE? Is IT still going Onward?
There is no AGE of GRACE.

The Holy Spirit is Grace.

And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.​
- Luke 2:40 KJV

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.​
- John 1:14 KJV

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.​
- John 1:17 KJV

And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.​
- Acts 4:33 KJV

Is there an end to His Kingdom? Is there an end to the Holy Spirit.

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is the pearl of great price.

May by the grace of God, the grace of God indwell you.

Agape,
Rhema
 
RHEMA
Are Todays' Christian in better shape ? ?
And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him. The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed. For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.​
- Matthew 8:7-10 KJV

Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?​
- Luke 18:8 KJV

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The Christian Church today has three major branches based upon the two most fundamental doctrines of Christianity - 1) Soteriology (How one gets saved); and 2) Ecclesiastical Authority (upon whom or what does one base one's beliefs).

These three branches are Catholic, Protestant, and Pentecostal.

Are these in better shape? (By what measure?)

The short answer is no.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.​
- Matthew 7:13-14 KJV

There is a fourth group, few in number and scattered far and wide. These are the Acts 2:38 Christians. We are routinely mocked as "Red Letter" Christians, because we follow the Teachings of the Christ (Jesus). That said, our Ecclesiastical Authority is not the Bible, but the Holy Spirit.

May the Lord see better things of you, that you find your foundation.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.​
- Luke 6:46-49 KJV

Agape,
Rhema
 
There is no AGE of GRACE.

The Holy Spirit is Grace.

And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.- Luke 2:40 KJV

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.- John 1:14 KJV

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.- John 1:17 KJV

And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.- Acts 4:33 KJV

Divide grace from grace?

Yes, the eternal grace of Christ is Ageless .It began being demonstrated with the Apostle Abel the first martyr. The second born needed to pass on the born seed of Christ's grace.

Ephesian 2:8; For by grace (according to Christ's labor of love) are ye saved through (His) faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
 
@Garee ... On numerous occasions I have politely asked you to stop replying to my posts since I have you on ignore. There is no intelligible substance to your content and I will not construct any reply to your word salads. It is not beneficial to me OR you. Are you that confused that you don't understand my request? Or is that you're just belligerent, and having hurt feelings keep trolling me?

I do not read your posts. Period. So please stop trying to engage. It's just annoying. Any continued posts just indicate a severe mental issue that out of loving concern I would suggest you address with a competent medical practitioner.

Better yet, I ask you to put me on ignore.

Rhema
 
. From RHEMA post:

On numerous occasions I have politely asked you to stop replying to my posts since I have you on ignore. There is no intelligible substance to your content and I will not construct any reply to your word salads.

Huum! Rhema, what about YOUR word SALAD ? Are They better than all Others ? Where did You get your words from ?
DeepSeeker
 
What is your objective, in conducting all that studying of all those things you be studying?
My objective is to understand as much as I can about the spiritual realm. Setting all Religion aside and seeking spiritual know and truth.
 
My objective is to understand as much as I can about the spiritual realm. Setting all Religion aside and seeking spiritual know and truth.
You are wasting
your time. I know
The only way that
can happen
And it's not going to
happen to you.
All you're going to do
is become more lost and confused
Than when you first started out.
And whatever you learn
Will mostly be incorrect.
 
You are wasting
your time. I know
The only way that
can happen
And it's not going to
happen to you.
All you're going to do
is become more lost and confused
Than when you first started out.
And whatever you learn
Will mostly be incorrect.
Leumas --- How do You waste Your Time. YOU do not even know what I have studied,or if I perhaps have a Pastors Degree, etc. . Do I believe on only The Bible, Or the Quran, Or perhaps, The Book Of Enoch ;etc. ? ?
 
Leumas --- How do You waste Your Time. YOU do not even know what I have studied,or if I perhaps have a Pastors Degree, etc. . Do I believe on only The Bible, Or the Quran, Or perhaps, The Book Of Enoch ;etc. ? ?
I have dominion over time
I have all the time in the world
You on the other hand
Your time is short
 
It would be nice; I think, to hear what someone with all knowledge of The Bible and Quran has to say about what is occurring in what is called Churches Today.
 
Huum! Rhema, what about YOUR word SALAD ? Are They better than all Others ? Where did You get your words from ?
DeepSeeker
I challenge ANY 10th grade high school English teacher to give examples of Word Salad from my posts.

I am erudite and rather well educated in the English language, and know how to write in order to logically and rationally express my views. (My grades have always shown this.)

I'm sorry you were offended. Take the time and compare the catalog of Garees' posts against mine.

If you can't see the difference, I would be very concerned for you.

Kindly,
Rhema

RHEMA
I would appreciate it if You would email Me about how, and where, You got Your data.
Actually, I just sent a PM right before I read this.
 
RHEMA
Aare YOU The Judge now?
Uh... about what?

Most people don't understand what Garee writes. I have tried over quite a number of years to try and establish an avenue of communication. I gave that up about a year ago, and have told him so. Yet he constantly badgers me by replying to my posts. It messes up my notification feed. And that's the last I'll say on this.

Rhema
I suspect My intelligence level is low to be discussing Things with You.
Why? I never said that. And I don't think I even implied this. What? At 87 I think you're doing an absolutely fantastic job. Given my family medical history, I'll be long into dementia by that age, but for the grace of God.

It is incumbent upon the person writing things to you, to ensure that they are written well enough for you to understand. Granted, my vocabulary may be post-college level, but, I'd never dumb things down on purpose unless I'm asked. My apologies for not doing a better job.

Kind regards,
Rhema
 
@Garee ... On numerous occasions I have politely asked you to stop replying to my posts since I have you on ignore. There is no intelligible substance to your content and I will not construct any reply to your word salads. It is not beneficial to me OR you. Are you that confused that you don't understand my request? Or is that you're just belligerent, and having hurt feelings keep trolling me?

I do not read your posts. Period. So please stop trying to engage. It's just annoying. Any continued posts just indicate a severe mental issue that out of loving concern I would suggest you address with a competent medical practitioner.

Better yet, I ask you to put me on ignore.

Rhema

Hi thanks for the reply

Why use the name Rhema do you know how it is used ?

Put you on ignore rather than defend a sola scriptura (all things written in the law and prophets) ?

I would suggest you study all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) not after the philosophy of dead men we cannot know Christ who dwells in all believers after the philosophies as oars traditions of dying mankind

How about starting over .

Define the word "apostle" using the bible as the faith reference. Who was the first listed apostle? Why was he martyred ?
 
How about starting over .
No thank you. It would just spin off into the chaos as it always has done, for the last dozen times we have "started over."

Put you on ignore rather than defend a sola scriptura (all things written in the law and prophets) ?
You just don't have a clue that your "defense" is a word salad of nonsense, and I've accepted that there's nothing I can do about it.

So yes, I have you on ignore, and it will stay that way. I'm sorry if your feelings are hurt.

But please, I once again ask that you stop replying to my posts. (And honest man would.) It messes up my notification feed.
 
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