Problem with rapture

[chris meads]

The part in these verses about the rapture are what's written in the verses that the angels are the harvesters aka laborers and the weeds get pulled first. But this verse talks of a wheat harvest.

 

[chris meads]

Offen I think people tend to overlook the word THEN being a piriod of time!

 

[chris meads]

I have a personal relationship w/ christ aka it's personal not public. And I believe based on that personal relationship. That would mean you need ask christ for your self.
For you have no need of any to teach you for you are spirit lead. with that concerning a rapture I personaly believe in a barley harvest aka pre-rapture and i believe in a wheat harvest aka mid - trib rapture and i believe in a dried fruit harvest!!! And I need not exsplain for if you know him you can ask him!!!

 

[DutchChristian]

only one rapture!

there is only one rapture and it is immediately after the dead rise first at the second coming of Christ which is AFTER the tribulation.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

To Chris Meads, problem with rapture.

By the rapture, do you mean that Christians living at the end of the system of things are to be taken to heaven, recorded in 1 Thessalonians 4:17: "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord?"

This has often raised my eye brow, because if this is so, how is it the Bible also says in 1 Corinthians 15:50: "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." So how can a physical body be raised up in to heaven? Like Jesus, does not the physical body have to die first before it can go to heaven, because, Romans 6:5, says: "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection." ???

If I may? The following verses say that we will be changed. We get our 'heavenly bodies'

 

[jason h]

Does it seem odd to anyone that of all the doctrines of scripture, generally you can get a different view from anyone you ask about the end time things? I mean people have studied the word for years and I assuming that at least some of them had the Spirit, which would have helped them know scripture. Yet there are still many views from many different camps. I've since accepted that as that time aproaches, stuff from zechariah, daniel, revelation, etc, will just fall together in such a way to be obvious to those living who have the word. Obviously if every generation has seen parts of these books in their everyday life, something else is going on. And Jesus even said it isnt for us to know the times or seasons. We all will have opinions of the end times stuff but at the end of the day we should never let that opinion get in the way of other believers as some sort of test.

All that being said, I've found that looking over all the verses about end times or tribulation things(jacobs trouble), it seems like it just doesnt fit together well at all. If you try, and you can, you make make some things work but to the exclusion of others. Could just be me though. I just figure it will make sense to those living when it happens.

 

[Rev T.S.Perkins]

When i open my eyes and see Christ than all this and more will be anwserd for me ..Until then my goal is to take as many to Heaven as possible by sharing the Good news of the Gospel ..the Days are growing shorter and we need to make sure all hear the good news and have a chance at salvation .being reconciled to Christ therefore reconcile others unto Christ ..:groupwave::groupwave:The great Commission...Rev

 

[chris meads]

I'd have to say if we could ask enoch or eliajah we might get greater understanding to this. I am most certain about one thing though to know the liveing christ is required and that of it self account's for noting to an individual for the demons know him and tremble. I am move by what is writter that the lord comes to judge two kind's of people. Those who don't know him and those who don't obey him. And in my opinion that's most of the modern day church and all of the world.

 

[chris meads]

We know the word rapture does not appear in the bible. I use it to refer to some people's belief. referenceing the Harvest at the end of the age. many and myself included believe what is written that there are those who as paul instructed strove to be counted worty to escape the wrath to come. and I also believe what is written about 144'000 that will wittness during the first half of the tribulation on witch more people will come to christ that throughout all of history and they will perform mirricals greater than. but will be killed before mid trib at witch also the two witnesses at the western wall will be killed. on witch we know it written they are taken up. Now if you know of something I've over looked in this Please do tell for Christ doesn't reveal all to all.