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WAKE UP people.
We are living in the most absurd, upside-down, spiritually hijacked era in human history.

The modern State of Rothschild’s False Israel™ — the darling of Dispensationalists, the so-called “prophetic fulfillment,” the supposed home of “God’s chosen people” — is an absolute fraud.

A theological fraud.
A political fraud.
A genealogical fraud.

And every time the modern Church bows to it, it spits in the face of Christ.

Let’s be crystal clear:

The overwhelming majority of those claiming to be “Jews” today — the Ashkenazi — are not from the tribe of Judah. Not from Levi. Not from Benjamin.
They are not Hebrews.
They are not biblical Israelites.
They are white, Eastern European converts — the descendants of the Khazar Empire, a medieval Turkic kingdom that adopted Judaism around the 8th–10th centuries.
That’s it. No Moses. No David. No temple lineage.
They’re as genetically related to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as your local HVAC repairman.

BUT EVEN IF THEY WERE…

Even if they had direct DNA from the biblical priesthood — from Aaron, Moses’ brother and the first high priest of Israel —
THEY ARE STILL CUT OFF FROM GOD WITHOUT CHRIST, according to the Gospel.

No one who denies the Son has the Father.” — 1 John 2:23
Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” — Romans 9:6
If you belong to Christ, you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

It doesn’t matter if your bloodline traces to the temple courts.
It doesn’t matter if you speak fluent Hebrew, wear a yarmulke, and quote Torah from memory.
If you reject the Son, you are outside the covenant. Full stop.

There is no path back to the Father that bypasses the Cross.
There is no chosenness apart from the Chosen One.

The Gospel obliterates all of it.
Ethnic pride.
National myth.
Religious cosplay.
Gone.

This isn’t just deception — it’s triple deception.

They’re not biblically Jewish — they reject Jesus Christ, the King of the Jews.

They’re not genetically Jewish — they’re Eastern Europeans with no bloodline to Abraham.

They’re not geographically Jewish — they are squatters on land seized in 1948, propped up by war, banking empires, and propaganda.
Their 8th-century ancestors couldn’t have found biblical Israel on a map if the entire map was Israel.

They are fake Jews — three times over:
Spiritually fake
Genetically fake
Prophetically fake

They are not the people of God — they are the people of Gog.

Triple fake.

Fake lineage.
Fake inheritance.
Fake chosenness.

And the tragic part?

Millions of Christians — especially in the West — are still defending this charade in the name of “blessing Israel,” as if God’s promises were about land deeds and chromosomes, instead of faith in the blood of His Son.

“If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29
“If righteousness could be gained through the Law, Christ died for nothing.” — Galatians 2:21

This is not “replacement theology.”
It’s fulfilled theology — the actual Gospel.

Jesus didn’t come to be a sidekick to a modern political state.
He didn’t bleed to reinforce a rabbinic caste system.

He IS the temple.
He IS the covenant.
He IS Israel.

And if you’re not in Him — you’re out.
 
You completely misrepresented what I said. I never called God a liar — I quoted Jesus Christ Himself:
“Immediately after the tribulation... He will gather His elect.” — Matthew 24:29–31

Not before. Not secretly. After. That’s not up for debate — that’s straight from the red letters.

1. I gave you a link to a thread discussing the rapture. Many scriptures provided for it there.
2. In this thread I provided a logical rebuttal for a non rapture belief.

You have not taken a stab at either of the above two. You have only repeated your opinion.

I remind you, I have provided very sane and logical reasons for a non rapture belief incriminating God as evil, unjust and making Him out to be a liar. Properly debunking this should be high on your priority list.

Twisting someone’s words because the plain text doesn’t support your theory isn’t theology —
it’s emotional manipulation in Scofield pajamas.

You accuse me of “cherry-picking,” but you’re the one skipping over the timeline Jesus laid out plainly.
There is one return, one gathering, and one Gospel — not some divided, theatrical circus where ethnic Jews get a second chance and the Church gets a secret escape hatch.

More opinion. If you want to discuss, bring scriptures.

You say your doctrine comes from “a logical working brain.”
I say it comes from Scofield’s Zionist-funded notebook, not the Bible.

Yes, the Bible is divided into Old and New — that’s called covenant, not dispensations.
The New Covenant didn’t run alongside the old — it fulfilled it.

“He has made the two one... creating in Himself one new man.” — Ephesians 2:15

Your theology splits what Jesus came to unite.

You missed the point I made. But good to see you can grasp two different covenants. Now you just need to apply that same thinking to dispensations.

You over react to trivial matters. Believing in dispensations is a Rom 14:5 type disagreement. Completely immaterial disagreement. Unlike my accusation of your non rapture belief incriminating God.

Take the millennium as an example. The seventh dispensation. Do you agree or disagree that there is a vast difference in the way humans will interact with God during this period?
 
1. I gave you a link to a thread discussing the rapture. Many scriptures provided for it there.
2. In this thread I provided a logical rebuttal for a non rapture belief.

You have not taken a stab at either of the above two. You have only repeated your opinion.

I remind you, I have provided very sane and logical reasons for a non rapture belief incriminating God as evil, unjust and making Him out to be a liar. Properly debunking this should be high on your priority list.



More opinion. If you want to discuss, bring scriptures.



You missed the point I made. But good to see you can grasp two different covenants. Now you just need to apply that same thinking to dispensations.

You over react to trivial matters. Believing in dispensations is a Rom 14:5 type disagreement. Completely immaterial disagreement. Unlike my accusation of your non rapture belief incriminating God.

Take the millennium as an example. The seventh dispensation. Do you agree or disagree that there is a vast difference in the way humans will interact with God during this period?

You say I haven’t provided Scripture — but I quoted Jesus Christ verbatim:

Immediately after the tribulation... He will gather His elect.” — Matthew 24:29–31

That’s not “my opinion.” That’s red-letter eschatology from the Son of God Himself.

You accuse me of skipping your “logical rebuttal,” but I’m not debating logic games —
I’m standing on the Word of God.

Here are a few more Scriptures that destroy the pre-trib rapture fantasy:

1. “At the last trumpet… we shall be changed.” — 1 Corinthians 15:52
Not before the tribulation. Not seven years earlier. At the last trumpet.
Meaning: no trumpets after it. So much for your two-stage return theory.

2. “The Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven… taking vengeance on them that know not God
when He comes to be glorified in His saints.” — 2 Thessalonians 1:7–10.
Not two separate events. One return. One glory. One judgment.

3. “The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.” — Revelation 20:5–6
If the first resurrection happens after the tribulation and before the millennium,
how is there room for your secret, pre-trib rapture seven years earlier?

4. “We who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not precede those who have fallen asleep.” — 1 Thessalonians 4:15
Again — the coming, not a partial coming, not a secret prequel.

As for your accusation that my belief “incriminates God as evil and a liar” —
that’s blasphemous projection.

I’m quoting Christ. You’re quoting a system born in 1830 from a 16-year-old mystic and a Zionist-funded Bible annotation.

You say this is a Romans 14:5 “disagreement”?
Paul was talking about days of the week, not eschatologies that rewrite the return of Christ and split the Body of Christ into VIP rapture tiers and second-class tribulation leftovers.

You want to talk about the millennium? Sure.

“Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection… they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.” — Revelation 20:6

But that first resurrection happens after the tribulation
Which means no one is reigning during the millennium except those who endured through it.

So again:
There is one Second Coming,
One resurrection,
One gathering,
One Church.

Not two comings.
Not two peoples.
Not two gospels.

That’s what Jesus taught.
That’s what Paul preached.
That’s what I believe.

You want to debate fantasy timelines?
Go find Scofield’s grave and argue with him.

I’ll stick with Christ.
 
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