Possibly the greatest post of all time...

[Garee]

Here’s the problem:

Most of you Dispensationalists don’t even know who or what "Israel" is.
I’d testify to that in a court of law.
And if there were a lie detector wired to an electric chair, I’d volunteer to sit in it — just to declare the truth that you have no clue what Israel actually is… and I’d walk away without a single shock.

You’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed by dispensationalist fantasy that nearly every time the word “Israel” appears in the New Testament, you have no idea who Jesus or the apostles are talking about.

You’ve built your entire eschatology on a lie — propping up a Christ-rejecting nation, clinging to a 2,000-year-old corpse of a covenant God already fulfilled, while trampling the blood of the New.

The true Israel of God has never been a flag or a border — it’s always been the remnant who believe.

Galatians 3:28–29
“There is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

^ This obliterates the myth that ethnic Jews are automatically heirs to God’s promises.
→ The true heirs are those in Christ — period. No dual covenant. No ethnic loophole.

Romans 9:6–8
“They are not all Israel who are descended from Israel...
That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God;
but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”

^ This drives the dagger straight into the heart of ethnic presumption.
Being Jewish by blood means nothing without faith — that’s Paul’s entire point.

And let’s not kid ourselves and talk about the 70 ton elephant in the room while we're here.
You know, the one draped in a blue-and-white flag, stomping around the Middle East claiming to be “God’s chosen” while rejecting His Son.

The one propped up not by God, but by U.N. tanks, Rothschild cash, and a Scofield Bible in every evangelical pew.
Yeah… that elephant.

Benjamin Netanyahu — born Ben Mileikowsky — is a white Eastern European.
A bonafide Gentile convert — not a "descendant of Abraham".
And neither are 95%+ of today’s False Israel™ population — mostly Gentile converts from Khazaria, Russia, and Eastern Europe, not "descendants of Abraham".

They are not the seed of Moses, Aaron, or David.
They are the sons & daughters of conversion, not covenant.
Their ancestors didn’t adopt Talmudic Judaism until 740 A.D., under King Bulan of Khazaria — a forced conversion, political move, not a divine calling.

The elites know this.
The Vatican knows it.
The Muslim world definitely knows it.

And yet, a nation of Scofield-fed evangelicals continues to bow before this golden calf, chanting “God’s chosen!” while they trample the Cross and ignore the Body of Christ — the true Israel of God.

The veil here isn’t just thick — it’s suffocating.

And here’s the non-negotiable truth of the Gospel:
Even if Netanyahu could produce a perfect DNA scroll tracing his bloodline to Abraham himself…
It wouldn’t matter.

Without Christ — he’s lost.

“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” — John 14:6

That includes kings, rabbis, priests, prophets — and prime ministers.
And let’s not forget the army of Eastern Europeans and Russians who somehow “discovered” they’re direct descendants of King David — right around the time Zionism needed a bloodline. <eye roll goes here>
Spoiler: they’re about as "Biblical Israelite" and ancient Hebrew as a potato.

If Moses and Abraham stepped out of a time machine into downtown Tel Aviv tomorrow, they’d stare in disbelief and say:
“Did we take a wrong turn into Warsaw? This isn’t the tribe of Judah — these are strangers in the land. Foreigners dressed in borrowed names.”

Moses squints at the skyline, turns to Abraham and says:
“I don’t see Israel — I see impostors in our inheritance.”

Abraham, looking at the crowd:
“These aren’t our descendants. These are European tourists playing dress-up with our covenant.”


If the satanic elite hadn’t hijacked prophecy and violently annexed Palestine in 1948 — installing False Israel™ with U.N. tanks and Rothschild money — you wouldn’t even be preaching this theological abomination.
You’d still be confessing what every faithful Christian knew for 1,800 years:
That the Body of Christ is Israel.
And always was.

“For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” — Philippians 3:3

“You are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation...” — 1 Peter 2:9

Imagine the saints in 1954 — faithful Christians on their deathbeds after 80 years of serving Christ — suddenly hearing:

“The real Israel isn’t the Church after all. It’s a new secular state in the Middle East!”

You can picture their response:

“What in God’s name are these people talking about?!"
"Who are these demons behind the pulpit on my television?"
"The Church is Israel. The Body of Christ is Israel."
"This isn’t prophecy — this is blasphemy in broad daylight.
God help us all!”

And they were right.
And you — and every dispensationalist clinging to Scofield’s fraud — are dead wrong.

Scofield didn’t teach revelation.
He taught replacement theology in reverse — replacing the Church with a Christless state and calling it prophecy.

“Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist — denying the Father and the Son.” — 1 John 2:22

You’ve bought it wholesale.
Not realizing the system you defend is the beast’s counterfeit kingdom — not Christ’s.

If the words of Jesus don’t define Israel for you — neither does God.
“This is My beloved Son... listen to Him.” — Matthew 17:5
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but inwardly.” — Romans 2:28–29
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

You’re not defending truth.
You’re defending an idol in the desert.

And when the true King returns, He’s not coming to sit in Tel Aviv.
He’s coming to judge the nations — and He’s starting with those who lied in His name.

You still want a third temple because you don’t know who Israel is.
You think God’s covenant is with a nation built by U.N. fiat and global bankers — not with the Body of Christ.
You’ve rejected the true Temple — Jesus — and now you’re trying to rebuild the very house He left desolate.

You’re not waiting on prophecy.
You’re resurrecting rebellion.

The only reason dispensationalists crave stone and blood sacrifices is because they’ve never understood the Cross.
They don’t realize that we — the Body of Christ — are the temple.

“Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?” — 1 Corinthians 3:16
“Built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone.” — Ephesians 2:20

You’re not lifting up God.
You’re defending a man-made idol — propped up by unbelief and nationalism.

You now bow to a political state filled with people whose ancestors didn’t follow God — but converted under Khazarian rule and built their religion not on the Torah… but on the Satanic, Anti-Christ, Talmud.

And being as tricked and deceived as humanly possible, you call these European identity thieves "Biblical, ethnic Jews" — while they mock the Body of Christ, the very people Jesus died to redeem. They must laugh themselves to sleep — watching evangelicals fund their empire, defend their rebellion, and quote Scofield like it’s scripture.

You’ve been duped.
And worse — you’re proud of it.

When the King returns,
He’s not coming to dedicate your idol.
He’s coming to tear it down — again.

Jesus never told His followers to rebuild the temple.
He told them they were the temple.

So if you're rebuilding what He destroyed,
You're not serving God.
You're rebuilding rebellion.

Repent..

Amen words have meaning attached with a warning (Deuteronomy 4:2) not to add to the meaning or take away of one word. Changing one word can change the authorship (spiritual plagiarism )

Like Jacob the second born used to represent the loving law a person must be born again. Jacob meaning one that deceives by grasping the heel of the first-born Esau who saw no value in the spiritual things of Christ the husband.

Hosea 12:3 He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his (new) strength he had power with God:

Esau sold his first-born birth rite for a cup of hairy goat soup. God gave Jacob a bill of divorce.

Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Israel. The new name Christ the husband named his bride

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power( born again)with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

Christian had a more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations which he promised to name in Isaiah 62.

Christian literally with no other meaning. Residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his bride the church named after its founder and husband Christ

Isaiah 62:1-2 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called (by Christ) Christians first in Antioch.

 

[Gothedral]

Yeah, it's terrible. Lord have mercy.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

1. Christians = True Israel.
2. Faith in Christ = Circumcision of the heart. (Romans 2:29)
3. Bloodline = Irrelevant. (John 1:13, Philippians 3:3)
4. Abraham’s seed = Those in Christ. (Galatians 3:29)
5. Without Christ = Not Abraham’s children. (John 8:39–44)
6. The Gospel = One body. No Jew, no Greek. (Galatians 3:28)
7. Two peoples theology = False gospel. (Ephesians 2:14–16)
8. New Covenant = In force now. (Luke 22:20, Hebrews 8:13)
9. Old Covenant = Obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
10. Jesus = Fulfillment of the Law. (Matthew 5:17)
11. Temple = Destroyed. Sacrifices = Ceased. Priesthood = Changed. (Hebrews 7:12)
12. Mosaic law = Shadow. Christ = Substance. (Colossians 2:17)
13. Unbelieving Jews = Broken off. (Romans 11:17–20)
14. Believers in Christ = Grafted in. (Romans 11:17)
15. Zion = Heavenly, not geographic. (Hebrews 12:22)
16. Church = Temple of God. (1 Corinthians 3:16)
17. Synagogue = Rejects Messiah. (John 15:23)
18. Messianic faith = Continuation, not replacement. (Romans 11:23)
19. The Cross = End of ethnic privilege. (Ephesians 2:11–16)
20. Modern Israel = Secular state, not covenant body.
21. Ashkenazi = Turkic-Khazar converts.
22. Khazars ≠ Abrahamic lineage.
23. Sephardic = Mixed Mediterranean heritage.
24. Neither = Biblical tribes of Israel.
25. No genealogies = No covenant. (Titus 3:9)
26. Tribe lists = Destroyed in 70 A.D.
27. Bloodline Judaism = Dead religion.
28. Rabbinic Judaism = Built on Talmud, not Torah.
29. Talmud = Anti-Christ in doctrine.
30. Pharisees = Founders of Rabbinic tradition. (Matthew 23:27)
31. Christianity = Judaism fulfilled.
32. Jesus = True Israelite. (Matthew 2:15)
33. Christ = The Seed. (Galatians 3:16)
34. The Seed = Singular. Not plural.
35. In Him = Heirs. Outside Him = Lost.
36. Scofield = Heretic. Darby = Inventor of fantasy.
37. Dispensationalism = Theological apartheid.
38. Rapture theory = 19th-century invention.
39. Israel-first doctrine = Not taught by Paul, Peter, or Jesus.
40. Real Jews = Born again believers in Christ.
41. Zionism = Political, not spiritual.
42. Modern Israel = Ally of Mammon, not Messiah.
43. Prophetic clock = Jesus, not Tel Aviv.
44. Star of David = Not biblical.
45. Torah without Jesus = Veiled heart. (2 Corinthians 3:14–16)
46. Jews need Jesus = Just like everyone else.
47. Romans 11:26 = Conditional, not automatic.
48. Revelation 2:9 = Warning, not compliment.
49. Galatians 6:16 = “Israel of God” = The Church.
50. If you’re in Christ… you are Israel.

 

[Gothedral]

I believe there is a chapter and verse for each of your points in both OT and NT and probably Apocrypha. That'll be a fun search.

 

[Curtis]

Rev 5:6 And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.
Rev 5:7 Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.
Rev 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
Rev 5:9 And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
Rev 5:10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth."

The opening of the seven seals will be the start of the tribulation period on earth.

Who are the "24 elders" who witness Jesus taking the scroll with its seven seals from God the Father?

We do not have to guess who these people are as they tell us themselfs who they are !!

... For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,...
The twenty four elders are represenitive of the whole Church!
There are certainly alot more than 24 tribes, nations and tongues on earth. They all said, "..have redeemed us to God by Your blood...".
"us" refferring to not just themselfs but a much bigger group of people!

These people were "redeemed" children of God!

Rev 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads.

These twenty-four eleders had already be given new supernatural bodies (clothed in white) and had "crowns of gold on their heads" meaning they had already been rewardered.

All this happens before a single "seal" had been opened which starts the tribulation period.
The raptured Church will witness Jesus taking the scroll with its sevens seals from the hand of God the Father.

The rapture, catching away of the Church happens before the tribulation begins.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Here's some more "truth" for the lost lurkers..

1. Jesus is the New Covenant.
Not a messenger of it. Not a preview of it.
He is the Covenant incarnate. His body and blood ratified it.
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20

2. We follow Jesus, not Moses.
Moses served. Jesus rules.
“The law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.” — John 1:17

3. Jesus is the King of the Jews.
That’s not symbolic — it’s legal. Divine. Eternal.
“Are You the King of the Jews?” Jesus answered, “It is as you say.” — Matthew 27:11

4. If Jesus is our King — and He is the King of the Jews — then WE are the Jews of the New Covenant.
No DNA test required. No bloodline, passport, or flag.
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

5. New Covenant Jew = Follower of Jesus. Period.
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but one inwardly.” — Romans 2:28–29

6. The Church is not a “pause.”
It’s not Plan B. It’s Israel fulfilled — the entire point.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus.” — Galatians 3:28
The Body of Christ is Israel.

7. We don’t follow the Satanic Talmud.
It denies Christ. It mocks Him. It elevates oral traditions above the Word of God.
It teaches that rabbis outrank prophets. That Gentiles are subhuman. That Jesus was a sorcerer now boiling in Hell in human excrement.
The Talmud is not the Old Testament. It is not the Torah. It is not God-breathed.
It is a post-Christ rejection manual — written by men who saw the Messiah perform miracles and then spit in His face.

8. The Old Covenant is DEAD.
Jesus didn’t come to upgrade it — He fulfilled it, then replaced it.
“He takes away the first, that He may establish the second.” — Hebrews 10:9
“He has made the first obsolete.” — Hebrews 8:13

9. Still clinging to Moses? You’re veiled.
“When Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart.” — 2 Corinthians 3:15
Only Jesus can remove it.

10. Israel is not a flag. Not a U.N. manufactured nation-state. Not a bloodline.
It’s the Body of Christ, born by faith — not flesh.
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” — Romans 9:6

11. The land promises? Already fulfilled.
“So the LORD gave to Israel all the land… not one word failed…” — Joshua 21:43–45
Stop staring at dirt. Start longing for glory.

12. One people of God — not two.
“He made both groups into one… that He might reconcile them both in one body.” — Ephesians 2:14–16
The Cross unites. Scofield divides.

13. Supporting “ethnic Israel” while rejecting Jesus = rejecting God.
“He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” — John 5:23

But here’s the real twist:
It’s not even ethnic Israel you’re supporting.
You're backing white, non-Semitic Khazarians —
Eastern European and Russian converts to Talmudic Judaism from 740 A.D.,
under King Bulan of the Khazarian Empire.

These people:
Are not descendants of Abraham
Are not from the tribe of Judah
Have no connection to Moses or David
Follow a Christ-mocking book
And deny the Son who died for the sins of the world

Yet misled, modern churches kneel before them.

This isn’t just wrong — it’s absolute madness.

It’s like a delusional white Russian drag queen in a Cleopatra wig shouting,
“I’m an Egyptian queen!” —
and the entire evangelical world clapping in unison.
You can’t make this up.
You wouldn’t believe it if it were a satire —
but it’s real. And it’s what 70% of the Church believes.

“I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not,
but are a synagogue of Satan.” — Revelation 2:9

14. The Gospel doesn’t orbit around U.N. manufactured (False) Israel.
It centers on the Cross.
Jesus didn’t die for a flag — He died for a Kingdom not of this world.

15. Real Jews worship Jesus. You know.. The KING of the JEWS..
“I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not,
but are a synagogue of Satan.” — Revelation 2:9

16. Two covenants? Two peoples? Two salvations? That’s blasphemy.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

17. Abraham’s children are born of faith — not blood.
“It is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham.” — Galatians 3:7

And let’s be blunt:
Most of the impostors squatting in Rothschild’s False Israel™ right now
have no more genetic tie to Abraham than Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan.

18. Jesus is the last Word.
“God has spoken to us by His Son.” — Hebrews 1:1–2
Not by rabbis. Not by nations. Not by Scofield’s hallucinations.

19. Reject Jesus? You’re not in the covenant.
Doesn’t matter what flag you fly or whose DNA you claim.
“Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either.” — 1 John 2:23

20. The veil was torn. Trying to sew it back up is rebellion.
“Having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus…” — Hebrews 10:19

You want to be a New Covenant Jew?

Don’t wave a blue & white flag with the six-pointed, six-cornered, six-sided star.
That’s not the Star of David.
That’s the Star of Remphan — the same occult sigil Israel used in the wilderness when they turned their backs on God and worshiped Moloch, sacrificing their children to demons.

“You took up the tabernacle of Moloch,
and the star of your god Remphan,
figures which ye made to worship them.” — Acts 7:43 (KJV)

It’s not a symbol of covenant.
It’s a symbol of rebellion.
A hexagram — a cursed seal of witchcraft and sorcery, not a divine sign from heaven.

So stop treating it like it’s holy.
God never commanded it. Christ never endorsed it.
And no apostle ever waved it.

You want to be one of God’s chosen?
Then drop the idol.
Pick up the Cross.

Not a flag.
Not a rabbi.
Not a talmud.
Not Zionist fiction.
Pick up the Cross.

Follow the King.
Not Scofield’s madness.
Not a fake Messiah still to come.

But Jesus Christ — the King of the Jews, crucified and risen.
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly…
but one inwardly.” — Romans 2:28–29

You want to be a New Covenant Jew?

Then be born again.
Washed in the blood.
Grafted into the Vine.
Circumcised in heart.
Saved by faith alone.

Jesus is Israel’s destiny — and ours.
Without Him:
No covenant.
No Kingdom.
No salvation.
“He who has the Son has life;
he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.” — 1 John 5:12

You want to be part of true Israel?

Then follow the Lion of Judah — not the shadows of Sinai.
Kiss the Son.
Drop the lie.
Come under the blood — or stand outside the covenant with a veil still over your eyes.

Time is short.
This is not a debate. It’s a divine ultimatum.
Choose the King — or be swept away with your idols,
your false flags, your dead covenants,
your genealogies, your Talmud,
your dispensational delusions and your synagogue of Satan.