Is it Okay to Condemn Sinners?

[Hannah1]

I can not do complicated like thinking so to say right is right wrong is wrong n there is no grey area in that matter at least not to me but between them sit understanding compassion empathy mercy.. lol my family most the time will tell others dont mind her thats her sickness lol i laugh at them ya my sickness at least i can live with out all the dead comforts the world offers.. I've learned to be content with what is n the Lord has been merciful is it easy nope but the Lord does Lighten the Load so to say..idk

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there`s nothing wrong with you, how can anyone say there is something wrong with anyone like they have all the mandates of correctness? they don`t. There should be freedom to BE who we ARE. No matter what that is. I mean, we are not hurting anyone so ..
They don`t have to solve the puzzles for you, just follow along. I believe its their own limitations how and should that is the real problem. Narrowminds. Exactly we might not understand but we can be open asking instead. Its not too much to ask. we don`t have to expect others to be the same. God created variety. It hurts not to be understood though. And to always be wrong. you don`t happen to be neurodivergent? okay if you don`t want to say. But its common to want absolutes to be safe. My friend has aspergers its a lot like that and not getting cues. but the conversations, and questions, exellent. You see.

 

[Hannah1]

I`ve always wanted to know what drives people what they think what moves them deep down to the core, and then support them. Because then real connection happens and we don`t feel so alone in this world. And by doing so we take this world to a better place and where new things can come. better things. Imagine when we don`t have our sin nature anymore.

 

[Twistie]

I`ve always wanted to know what drives people what they think what moves them deep down to the core, and then support them. Because then real connection happens and we don`t feel so alone in this world. And by doing so we take this world to a better place and where new things can come. better things. Imagine when we don`t have our sin nature anymore.

Idk what that is..i lost my memory back in the late 80s like i played guitar n lost that certain things just wont stick like memories wise i have a hard time remembering im cooking or i didn't eat like i have no time line days weeks months even yrs at times im just lost in it the way man sees it lol lost alot of my schooling memories yet i got some child hood memories but missing chunks at the same time..i know ive had a hard time reading to understand to like follow directions on how to do something i need one on one n its gotta constant for a while till i can remember on my own..im unable to remember what i read so to read a book is difficult unless i can do it like in a few hrs..thats been since the accident n my memory loss..i never kept up with a doctor for the trauma n the doctors here arent interested in looking into for me they too busy trying to push me on man made meds lol nothing new.. except this time i am wiser i am on to them the Lord has already allowed me to see what they are all about to experience for myself n then He pulled me out..

But idk what i am to be honest perhaps a little touched lmbo

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[Hannah1]

Idk what that is..i lost my memory back in the late 80s like i played guitar n lost that certain things just wont stick like memories wise i have a hard time remembering im cooking or i didn't eat like i have no time line days weeks months even yrs at times im just lost in it the way man sees it lol lost alot of my schooling memories yet i got some child hood memories but missing chunks at the same time..i know ive had a hard time reading to understand to like follow directions on how to do something i need one on one n its gotta constant for a while till i can remember on my own..im unable to remember what i read so to read a book is difficult unless i can do it like in a few hrs..thats been since the accident n my memory loss..i never kept up with a doctor for the trauma n the doctors here arent interested in looking into for me they too busy trying to push me on man made meds lol nothing new.. except this time i am wiser i am on to them the Lord has already allowed me to see what they are all about to experience for myself n then He pulled me out..

But idk what i am to be honest perhaps a little touched lmbo

Haha

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I`m so sorry to hear, it must be really difficult for you. Things like that can happen when you have an accident, unfortunately, you sound like you damaged some nerves up there. Or area. I know it can be better managed with medication. Some really do help, despite it all.
you can try to exercise those part like doing puzzles or games, train the memory as the brain can make new connections. you are fortunately to be alive and walking. Fortunately nowadays we have a lot of tools that can help and equipment, like special programs on the computer.
Seems like short term memory was affected so its good repetition helps. I know, the medical establishment rolling eyes but sometimes they can at least assist.

 

[Twistie]

I`m so sorry to hear, it must be really difficult for you. Things like that can happen when you have an accident, unfortunately, you sound like you damaged some nerves up there. Or area. I know it can be better managed with medication. Some really do help, despite it all.
you can try to exercise those part like doing puzzles or games, train the memory as the brain can make new connections. you are fortunately to be alive and walking. Fortunately nowadays we have a lot of tools that can help and equipment, like special programs on the computer.
Seems like short term memory was affected so its good repetition helps. I know, the medical establishment rolling eyes but sometimes they can at least assist.

Thats the thing they don't wanna approach the damage at all they just wanna pill me up with lithium this last time smh its like they are dead they have one track mind n its crazy cause the laws changed up mental health just about cut n given to the orison system their places falling apart its a mess..i worked in the medical field for quite a while n in a few states hands on worked for one of the top hospitals for the top surgeons i seen amazing work unfortunately its more money driven then being called.. sadly i know what the docs think of me and how i see them n how i question them and their knowledge on the meds n they dont like it the more i push back the harder they push so i gotta watch my step..it is what it is..see i would not change a thing everything i have expected has brought me to this point in my Life to be sad or mad that kinda be an insult to the Mercy the the Lord has shown me..i believe He is preparing me to give a testimony many gonna hate.. lol my problem is i find me funny and people tend to take my laughing at inappropriate times the wrong way but it is what it is personally i like me lol smh told ya imma mess
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[Hannah1]

Thats the thing they don't wanna approach the damage at all they just wanna pill me up with lithium this last time smh its like they are dead they have one track mind n its crazy cause the laws changed up mental health just about cut n given to the orison system their places falling apart its a mess..i worked in the medical field for quite a while n in a few states hands on worked for one of the top hospitals for the top surgeons i seen amazing work unfortunately its more money driven then being called.. sadly i know what the docs think of me and how i see them n how i question them and their knowledge on the meds n they dont like it the more i push back the harder they push so i gotta watch my step..it is what it is..see i would not change a thing everything i have expected has brought me to this point in my Life to be sad or mad that kinda be an insult to the Mercy the the Lord has shown me..i believe He is preparing me to give a testimony many gonna hate.. lol my problem is i find me funny and people tend to take my laughing at inappropriate times the wrong way but it is what it is personally i like me lol smh told ya imma mess
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People sure need to hear the truth, and evil hates it. It is well known that pharmakeia pharmacy generally don`t do anything good, can take the symptoms, in best cases, but you have to change lifestyle and use natural ways. I mean after all that is what we used before all that. Totally compromised, controlled and all. we know. Might be some good sure, but generally. Lithium, omg, that makes you a drooling zombie basically literally. It destroys the brain. So many that used to work with those people have come out even therapists, there is one really interesting former therapist that worked with psychiatry Jerry Marzinsky. He was working in mental hospital and documented the voices and what they were saying and found a pattern, they all say the same thing, more or less. It is demonic 95% of the time. Or a mixture.
(well that is also what the exorcists say ironically and some of them do have a psych degree)
He was not allowed to speak about it and warned if he continued they would kick him out.
So they know, there too.
That is not logical at all to not want to touch it before they do anything else. A shame most people can`t afford a private consultation. But would probably be the best option when they won`t. And then again they don`t know what they`re doing in many cases regarding the meds for example never found that the serotonin affected or chemical imbalance. fail.
And now they all gonna go oh just take the mark and we will give your brain life. not.

 

[Rad]

I told you @Rad im not discussing anything with you i see where you are at in your walk and its is not in Christ tho others choose to dance in your insanity i do not i follow the ways of My Lord..i will do my best to be respectful but to me your a danger your a danger to those around you..i will not sup on your evil insane words..i cant be much clearer that that ive tested your spirit n i choose not to interact with it i can go to a synagogue of satan n chill with them in person if i wanted to interact with one like you..
I do keep you in my talks with the Lord hoping that you lay down your ways and to follow Him .
To me your as dangerous as a doctor that has the desire to mutilate lil boys and lil girls .

Your derogatory words matter not because they are meaningless, but they do show the prejudice and intolerance in your heart, a "Synagogue of Satan " indeed, ........but i will not trade insults with you ,for thats not what my lord and Saviour commanded, he said i should "love my enemies, bless those that curse me, do good to them that hate me and pray for those that despitefully use and persecute me," so the best i can do for you is to pray that Christ will unblock your ears, open your eyes and soften your heart so that you may come out of the Darkness youre in and into the Light of his Love, Compassion and Justice, for we are ALL in need of Gods Grace and Mercy , ALL in need of his changing Love, and i pray you will find a way to His Love and the Salvation he offers to ALL.

 

[Twistie]

Your derogatory words matter not because they are meaningless, but they do show the prejudice and intolerance in your heart, a "Synagogue of Satan " indeed, ........but i will not trade insults with you ,for thats not what my lord and Saviour commanded, he said i should "love my enemies, bless those that curse me, do good to them that hate me and pray for those that despitefully use and persecute me," so the best i can do for you is to pray that Christ will unblock your ears, open your eyes and soften your heart so that you may come out of the Darkness youre in and into the Light of his Love, Compassion and Justice, for we are ALL in need of Gods Grace and Mercy , ALL in need of his changing Love, and i pray you will find a way to His Love and the Salvation he offers to ALL.

You can use twisted scripture all you want ive tested your spirit i know your a false witness your words show what you are @Brad they will testify against you not i..

 

[Twistie]

For the Lord loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.

You @Rad

You can use twisted scripture all you want ive tested your spirit i know your a false witness your words show what you are they will testify against you not i..

@Rad don't even have that capacity which your words will testify to that..

 

[Twistie]

You can use twisted scripture all you want ive tested your spirit i know your a false witness your words show what you are @Brad they will testify against you not i..

I apologize @Brad Huber i meant @Rad

 

[Twistie]

@Rad
For the Lord loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.

You've already stated your lack of willingness to do that..


He guides me along the right paths for his name’s sake.

This shows that it is not the Holy One that dwells in you..

Your words Testify to it..

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

This shows you are unable bear fruit for you do not abide in Him..

This shows you completely

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Like i said @Rad others my entertain you n play that insanity role ya like to play with them but not I

I will
Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it."..
like i said i see you as a danger to those around you..

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Idc how you feel or anyone else feels on how you want to interpret Scriptures.
Only One Truth One way Hope ya find Him

For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ

 

[Rad]

@Rad
For the Lord loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.

You've already stated your lack of willingness to do that..


He guides me along the right paths for his name’s sake.

This shows that it is not the Holy One that dwells in you..

Your words Testify to it..

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

This shows you are unable bear fruit for you do not abide in Him..

This shows you completely

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Like i said @Rad others my entertain you n play that insanity role ya like to play with them but not I

I will
Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it."..
like i said i see you as a danger to those around you..

Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Idc how you feel or anyone else feels on how you want to interpret Scriptures.
Only One Truth One way Hope ya find Him

For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ

After reflecting on your many posts to me ,I feel you are getting confused, you state that you dont want to talk or engage with me as i'm walking in Darkness and do not have the Spirit of God dwelling within me. but yet you produce this long diatribe of my many failings. What came to mind while reading your posts was Christs words in Luke 6:45 ""............ for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." (Luke 6:45, ESV)"

I believe its pointless my trying to answer anything you say as you will just say God has told you differently and i'm Evil for believing what i do. I do feel sorry for you after reading some of your posts detailing your past and perhaps this is reflected in your attitude today. I dont know, but i will continue to pray that God will indeed open your eyes, unblock your ears and soften your Heart to his, Justice, Mercy and Compassion and that you will indeed be truly Converted to his ways.

 

[Twistie]

After reflecting on your many posts to me ,I feel you are getting confused, you state that you dont want to talk or engage with me as i'm walking in Darkness and do not have the Spirit of God dwelling within me. but yet you produce this long diatribe of my many failings. What came to mind while reading your posts was Christs words in Luke 6:45 ""............ for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." (Luke 6:45, ESV)"

I believe its pointless my trying to answer anything you say as you will just say God has told you differently and i'm Evil for believing what i do. I do feel sorry for you after reading some of your posts detailing your past and perhaps this is reflected in your attitude today. I dont know, but i will continue to pray that God will indeed open your eyes, unblock your ears and soften your Heart to his, Justice, Mercy and Compassion and that you will indeed be truly Converted to his ways.

I get darkness is drawn to light but lole i said i believe you are a very dangerous person your lack of love for your neighbors show it your lack of respect for the people in your country shows what you are..your words will testify against you and will testify to what i speak..

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

I follow My Lord you follow the world we are not the same .

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

 

[Twistie]

After reflecting on your many posts to me ,I feel you are getting confused, you state that you dont want to talk or engage with me as i'm walking in Darkness and do not have the Spirit of God dwelling within me. but yet you produce this long diatribe of my many failings. What came to mind while reading your posts was Christs words in Luke 6:45 ""............ for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." (Luke 6:45, ESV)"

I believe its pointless my trying to answer anything you say as you will just say God has told you differently and i'm Evil for believing what i do. I do feel sorry for you after reading some of your posts detailing your past and perhaps this is reflected in your attitude today. I dont know, but i will continue to pray that God will indeed open your eyes, unblock your ears and soften your Heart to his, Justice, Mercy and Compassion and that you will indeed be truly Converted to his ways.

Your words told me your evil your words told me you have not a lick of rightousness in you your words told me you could careless about your neighbors n those who were born and raised and worked to build a life your words told me you dont care about allowing rapist murders and every unclean spirit to enter into your country to cause Chaos..Not God God didn't tell me that Your words did.. that some weak azz moves you make..
I hope you repent for your wickedness take responsibility for the harm you have caused because of your heartless ways and come and rest in the Lord

Let all the people say Amen!

 

[bdavidc]

There is an important distinction here. Christians are not given authority to pronounce someone's final eternal sentence. God is the Judge. But that does not mean we are forbidden to judge whether conduct is sinful when God has already spoken plainly about it.

Matthew 7:1 is often quoted as though Jesus forbade all judgment, but Jesus continued, “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye” (Matthew 7:5). He was condemning hypocritical judgment, not righteous judgment. Jesus also said, “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24). Paul said concerning those inside the church, “do not ye judge them that are within?” (1 Corinthians 5:12).

The same is true when dealing with the lost. We do not have to invent a condemnation against them because Scripture already tells us their condition: “he that believeth not is condemned already” (John 3:18). Our responsibility is to tell people what God has said about sin, repentance, faith in Christ, and judgment. Calling something sin when God calls it sin is not personally condemning someone. It is simply agreeing with God's Word.

 

[Hannah1]

Doesn`t it matter HOW one is doing it?
Are you gonna throw a hard ball or are you gonna try to actually reach that person?
To stand screaming you`re a sinner, you`re going to hell! Will never change anything. That person will not have a change of heart because of that. Just imagine, if it was the opposite, if you were the one that was shouted that. You would not listen or change, would you. No.
The point is not to scream or shout, or come with a statement about their sin. The point is really to REACH that person. To find out the deeper goings and to assist, only then can we facilitate change. They might chose not to correct. But we have much bigger chance.
And this is what the bible says. Go to your brother. if he listens, you have won your brother. If he doesn`t listen, take one or two with you. Probably a pastor of sorts. Or close family member or something like that. And if he does not listen then, tell it to the congregation and if then not listen don`t have anything to do with him, but show love still so his soul can be saved.
That is the bible. Nothing about shouting you`re a sinner, you`re going to hell and blast it.
Does`nt change anything. (and no, twistie this was not to you I believe you have acted correctly, I just prefer not to argue especially as I don`t have all information background)
Sure there will always be those that are not ready to come back or take long time or years. We don`t know that. This is why we have to still show love. Just think about if it was you.
I would be more interested in the story and background so I could work with them there. One doesn`t arrive to ungodly conclusion out of the blue. Something usually happens. If its teaching or worse. So I would say it is more about what we can do for that person to help them.
Think about Jesus. He said to the woman about to be stoned, go, and sin no more, neither I condemn you. And He alway say sin no more. Then we have the reality of demons and their influence on our thoughts and actions we can`t forget that either. There is so many dimensions to this. There are ways to discuss sin that reach beneath the surface other than a straight this is sin you are a sinner. I would say we have to reach deeper to reach that person because ultimately what else is gonna do it.

 

[Hannah1]

Also many have come to God when dealt with properly and shown love, then Gods love have reached them, even if they were something they did not disclose or even a satanist or something. I had a satanist go to church and reach God because he said how I treated him vs what his usual experience was in church.

 

[Hannah1]

I`d say a very very last resort when you already have tried everything, then you can do a short statement.

 

[Hannah1]

but just think for a moment if you showed up with cookies and flowers to someone you knew did everything wrong. And if you reach out on a consistent basis. Imagine what that would do, to someone steep in sin. The love of Jesus

 

[Hannah1]

I think Jesus would do that actually. Well He did. And look what happened. To those you never can imagine. To love your worst enemies. I believe we have it right there.