No you're not addressing the issue at all, i keep asking you specific questions about where you disagree and you just keep re-hashing the same old reply, so lets try a different approach, and could you please answer the questions in whatever form you choose. Thanks
OK question 1. You say "Christ says a rich man enters the kingdom with great difficulty", so Christ actually says, Luke 18:24-25 " How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God", so my question is ,"How hard is it for a Camel to go through a needle's eye", would you call that with "great difficulty" or impossible?.
Question 2 You say that i conclude " that every rich person is condemned". If we look at Luke 18: 24-25 again, here it is " How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God", Christ speaks of "How hardly shall they that have riches enter the Kingdom of God", does that mean ALL of the Rich, or does it mean some, or just a few, or most?, and then Christ says " For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God", again does that mean ALL of the Rich, or some, or a few, or most? And in Luke 6:24 Christ says " " Woe to you that are rich for you have received your consolation", does that mean ALL of the Rich, or some of them, or a few ,or most? And if you believe Christ only meant some, or a few or most and not ALL of the Rich are condemned, please explain why?.
You obviously didnt read my explanation as to Mark 10:23-25, but ill repeat it in the hope that this time you'll read it, here it is,
"OK lets turn to Marks Gospel, Mark 10:17-27, but with emphasis on verse 23-25, here they are ,
23And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
So we have the same words of condemnation of "The Rich" in verse 23, but in verse 24 Christ substitutes "The Rich" for " Those that trust in Riches" with the same condemnation, and follows up in verse 25 with The Camel and the Eye of the Needle illustrating how impossible it is, WITH MEN, for a "Rich man" to enter Heaven, the terms" The Rich" and "Those that trust in riches" are synonomous, that is why Christ mentioned both trust in Riches and the Rich. Why did he do this, probably for the same reason we're having this conversation now, he foresaw the efforts of sinful, greed driven humanity to say, its not my Riches that's the problem ,its my attitude towards them", and dispelled that myth with his words. And if you need further proof of Christs attitude to "The rich", those that "store up Treasure on Earth", then look no further than Matthew 6: 19-24, where Christ says " Do not store up Treasure on Earth, (do not become Rich), for where your Treasure is your heart will be also", there is no nuance about "attitude to riches", no talk of "trusting in Riches", just a straight "where your Treasure (Riches) is your heart will be also", and then the final line in verse 24" YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD AND MONEY", not its hard to serve God and money, not some find it hard to serve God and money, but a flat denial of the compatibility of possessing Riches and. serving God"
So Question 3 is, could you please explain where you disagree with my understanding of Christs words? Thanks,
And Question 4, if Christ had meant "trust in Riches", why do you believe theres no mention of that phrase in the story of the Rich Ruler in both Matthews and Lukes Gospel, just a blanket condemnation of "The Rich" as a whole?.
Again it appears that you didnt read my reply to your question, so here it is again, " So Christ says, "I say unto you .That a rich man shall hardly enter the Kingdom of Heaven", no mention of trusting or not trusting in riches, just "A Rich man", not some of the rich, or most of them, but "A Rich man", which means ALL OF THE RICH, there is no differentiation, then he says " a Rich man shall hardly enter the kingdom of Heaven", so its going to be very hard, almost impossible for "A Rich man to enter Heaven", Christ follows this up by illustrating that "It is easier for a Camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter Heaven", so we would view that as being impossible, but when questioned by the Disciples who say "Who then can be saved", Christ says "With men this is impossible but WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE", You need to understand, but i feel you already do, that God is not constrained by the Commandments he places on his Creation. If God chose to take my life now, i couldnt say, " But Lord, you said "Do not Kill", .or if Christ drove out the Moneylenders from the temple, does that mean we can do the same?, GOD IS GOD, he is omnipotent and can do with his creation as he pleases, as the parable of the "Workers in the Vineyard " illustrates, if he chooses to save a Rich man that in no way negates Christ telling us that the Rich are condemned because of their possession of Riches.
So my question to you, question 5 is, "Do you believe that God is constrained by the same Commandments he gives to us or do you believe that God is free to act and thus to deal with his Creation as he sees fit?.
Did i ever say that "Poverty itself saves", if i did could you show me where i said that? thats question 6 by the way.
You say that " Christ never preached salvation by poverty." So let me give you 4 examples, Luke 6:20 "BLESSED ARE YOU POOR ,FOR YOURS IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD". then Luke 16:25 where Abraham gives the reason for Lazarus, the poor man, to be in heaven, while he, the Rich man, was in Hell, " ;But Abraham said, "Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented." LAZARUS WAS IN HEAVEN BECAUSE HE RECEIVED "EVIL THINGS", he lived a life of poverty and suffering, now the story of Zacchaeus Luke 19:1-9, who was saved only after he had given his wealth away to the poor and those he'd wronged, as it says in verse 8 -9, " 8And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord: Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. 9And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham." his salvation was pronounced only after he had given his wealth away and became poor himself. and finally in Marks version of The Rich Ruler where in Mark 10 verse21 it says ";Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, "One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.", so Christ told him to sell all he had, become poor himself, but that would store up Treasure in heaven and ensure his salvation, but as it says in verse 22 " And he was sad at that saying and went away grieved, for he great possessions"
I've never said that poverty itself saves, i've quoted you what Christ says and my belief that its an essential prerequisite of Salvation, one of many, and conversely, the possession of riches is a barrier to Salvation, through which none will cross, except IF it be the will of God, "FOR WHOM ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE".
So the final question, question 7 is, Please detail where you disagree with my understanding of Christs teachings on Poverty being one of the many prerequisites for Salvation and conversely Riches being a barrier to Salvation?.
So i hope you'll answer my questions, in whatever form you want to, and we can make some progress in this discussion and not waste both of our time with continual repetition. Thanks
Suppose riches did in fact keep you out even with Jesus. Rich compared to who, what, and where? Don't know anyone being Solomon rich even in these days of extremes! Yet it wasn't his riches that brought about his fall, but rather fooling around with other gods, through the myriads of wives he had trying to please, when he should have had only one! I was blessed with one and I found it hard to imagine having as many as he did! I barely kept my mind with one...plenty of knee time, I'll tell you that for sure! lol 
