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The Democrats have not done anything that I listed. I don't agree with them all the time, but they are not corrupt anywhere near like Trump. Even the American Bar Association, a conservative organization, has an article about Trump's ongoing mass corruption.

Anyone can find out about Trump corrupt by simple web search

You did not treat my question to you with any honesty, nor have you in the above reply. :(

You said the GOP agenda, even as much as stated anyone who was GOP was evil! Yet, when asked to provide the agenda for the DNC along with the long list of GOP agenda issues, you could not/have not done so. Even your admission above has the "but" attached to anything that remains unspoken that the DNC does that you have found disagreeable.

As one who has for the most part argued about sin being sin, and then by your words above excuse/admit to levels of sin, because one is not as bad as what President Trump has done now have changed their view on that position? I doubt it. This is also why I questioned you as I did, because it would be reflective of how honest you truly are, or how blinded you are in what you are willing to accuse others of, while ignoring sin in the acts of others. Especially with those you are more inclined to agree with.

You haven’t given credit where it’s due, because unless someone is pure evil, even the worst individuals can do some righteous acts. That’s why I shared a couple of reporting links—not just to balance out the negative of your posting, but to see if you’d recognize the positive actions being taken by this administration. You just can't bring yourself to do so could you? :(

Oh, and I now can say you're a liar, and your bias is there for all to see. The ABA is not seen as being conservative as you stated. It mostly is seen as being liberal leaning. They of their own accord, profess to be independent/neutral. So, conservative, is the farthest thing from the truth about the ABA.

If you were being honest in your assessment, I'd have little issue with your postings on politics, even though Talk Jesus is not meant for that subject matter. Your obvious lies, make me have to consider how to address this moving forward.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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I do not endorse any of the politics attached to the OP.

However, there is one fact that needs to be recognized if we wish to have a powerful witness for Jesus Christ.

CHRISTIAN: Paul never once refers to himself as a 'christian', while at least five times in the New Testament he refers to himself as a follower of "the way".
That statement is true.

The oft missed point is: It was unbelievers who derogatorily called the followers of Christ, "Christians."

How and when was the word "Christian" first used? The term 'Christian' was used to describe a follower of Christ in terms of the world, from the world’s point of view. The pagans at Antioch called the apostles "Christians" first (Acts 11:26; 26:28) and used it derogatorily because the apostles didn’t follow the commercial world of the pagans. "Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is not in the word "Christian", the substance is in the heart of the man it is attempting to describe, and which the pagan user cannot see.

Christ never called himself a Christian, Christ never called his followers Christians. The apostles never called each other Christians. Christ never used an adjective to describe himself. So how are we to identify ourselves then? The disciples called each other, "brethren", "disciples", "apostles", "servants", "believers", "followers", "the faithful", "the elect", "the called", and "saints." We can also identify ourselves as "bondservants" of Christ.

Claiming a title of "Christian" would be a declension, a step down, from standing as a believer in or follower of Jesus Christ. I challenge brethren often about using the name of Jesus Christ in their witness, rather than the once-removed politically-correct label of "Christian." I have even seen people manifest at the mention of Jesus. Fact is, in the Holy Bible, you will never find a man of God calling another man of God, "Christian."

Who called the disciples "Christian"? Who did the calling?

"...And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." (Acts 11:26). When one "calls" another, the one doing the calling is not the receiver of the call! To further understand what "called" means, here are the 9 appearances of the word "called."

As the final nail in this denominational coffin, here is further documentation:

"Christian: A follower of the religion of Christ [Note carefully that Christ never started a religion - John 7:16]. It is probable that the name Christian, like that of Nazarenes and Galileans, was given to the disciples of our Lord in reproach or contempt. What confirms this opinion is, that the people of Antioch in Syria, Acts 11:26, where they were first called Christians observed by Zosimus, Procopius, and Zonaras, to have been remarkable for their scurrilous jesting. Some have indeed thought that this name was given by the disciples to themselves; others, that it was imposed on them by divine authority; in either of which cases we should have met with it in the subsequent history of the Acts, and in the Apostolic Epistles, all of which were written some years after; whereas it is found but in two more places in the New Testament, Acts 26:28, where a Jew is the speaker, and in 1 Peter 4:16, where reference appears to be made to the name as imposed on them by their enemies. The word used, Acts 11:26, signifies simply to be called or named, and when Doddridge and a few others take to imply a divine appointment, they disregard the usus loquendi [established acceptation of the term] which gives no support to that opinion. The words Tacitus, when speaking of the Christians persecuted by Nero, are remarkable, ‘vulgus Christianos appellabat,’ ‘the vulgar call them Christians.’ Epiphanius says, that they were called Jesseans, either from Jesse, the father of David, or, which is much more probable, from the name of Jesus, whose disciples they were. They were denominated Christians, A. D. 42 or 43; and though the name was first given reproachfully, they gloried in it, as expressing their adherence to Christ, and they soon generally accepted it." Richard Watson, Watson’s Bible Dictionary (1832), p. 233.

"Cristianos, Christian: a word formally not after the Greek but after the Roman manner, denoting attachment to or adherents to Christ. Only occurs as used by others of them, not by Christians of themselves. Tacitus (A.D. 96) says (Annals 15, 44), ‘The vulgar call them Christians. The author or origin of this denomination, Christus, had, in the reign of Tiberius been executed by the procurator, Pontius Pilate.’" Ethelbert William Bullinger, A Critical Lexicon and Concordance of the English and Greek New Testament (1908), p. 152.

"This name (Christian) occurs but three times in the New Testament, and is never used by Christians of themselves, only as spoken by or coming from those without the church. The general names by which the early Christians called themselves were ‘brethren,’ ‘disciples,’ ‘believers,’ and ‘saints.’ The presumption is that the name ‘Christian’ was originated by the heathen." Thomas W. Doane, Bible Myths (1882), page 567, note 3.

"The name (Christian) given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch." Easton’s Bible Dictionary.

"Egypt, which you commanded to me, my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent, and continually wafted about every breath of fame. The worshippers of Serapis (here) are called Christians, and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find), call themselves Bishops of Christ." The Emperor Adrian to Servianus, written A.D. 134.

If you go to Zodhiates Word Studies, he tells you that when they were called Christians at Antioch, using the word ‘crematezo,’ it was a "divine warning." In other words, be forewarned, avoid this word and the use of it. And that’s what the apostles did. You will never read any of these New Testament writers using the term ‘christian’ to describe themselves.

As the takeaway to the cracking of this programmed denominational nut, I strongly suggest that when we witness, we do so in the boldness of the name of Jesus Christ and not in the cowardice of the world's politically correct denominational label of "Christian."
 
I didn't have room enough for nearly all of Trump's corruption. The Democrats have not done anything that I listed about Trump. Several historians and legal experts have stated Trump is the most corrupt president in U.S. history, by far. If you think God is okay with corruption, then you are just biblically ignorant. The Chronicles are filled with lists of kings "who did evil in the sight of the Lord", as well as far less "who did what is right in the sight of the Lord."

God is a God of justice, mercy, love and peace. God does not approve of leaders who harm immigrants, the sick, the poor, minorities or the otherwise oppressed. Trump has greatly harmed all of those in America.
Dance much? lol
You just couldn't bring yourself to actually answer the question, could you? (Heavy sigh)
Blinders in place, Bias noted.

Regardless of how on point you may be about President Trump, and the GOP, your inability to be as honest with the DNC as well, makes you hypocritical, and thus a poor source for truth.

Also, please don’t bring up God in support of your one-sided story telling. For you are not a good representative of Him, and the truth doesn’t seem to be in you.

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Nick
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Dance much? lol
You just couldn't bring yourself to actually answer the question, could you? (Heavy sigh)
Blinders in place, Bias noted.

Regardless of how on point you may be about President Trump, and the GOP, your inability to be as honest with the DNC as well, makes you hypocritical, and thus a poor source for truth.

Also, please don’t bring up God in support of your one-sided story telling. For you are not a good representative of Him, and the truth doesn’t seem to be in you.

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Nick
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You apparently just want to argue. I can give you a list of what I don't agree with Democrats on if you wish, but this list pales in comparison to the corruption of Trump. Trump's policies are killing a lot of people. There is nothing much worse than that. Just this week, Trump's EPA deliberately approved of a chemical to spray on crops, banned for a long time, because it is harmful to human health. Trump totally doesn't care about the air we breathe, the water we drink, the soil we grow our food in; he's taken many beloved animals off of the endangered species list who are in danger of extinction, including the gray whale, which will go extinct if his policies aren't reversed.

WHAT I DISAGREE WITH THAT MOST BUT NOT ALL DEMOCRATS SUPPORT:

1. Humanism - most Republicans also support the humanism of America's founders. American founders like Jefferson and Madison were avowed racists and humanists; also many more were humanists, very popular in their day, including Payne, Franklin and Adams. Humanism teaches that we don't need any savior, that people can save themselves. Many founders had deist leanings, including Madison, Jefferson and Washington. Both Franklin and Payne were deists according to them. God as noted in the Declaration, is clearly an 18th Century deist view.

2. Men in women's sports - there are obvious reasons why males and females should have their own separate sports, except coed sports.

3. Males in female locker rooms - totally unfair to women and men; however, there is a simple solution to this and that is to have three bathrooms like airports already do have; one male, one female and one small bathroom that is either, that locks from the inside when being used. Airports have had this setup for decades.

4. Both parties are wrong for the same certain reason: Pollution is very bad for people and this is reason enough to get rid of as much as possible as fast as possible, whether it causes climate change or not is irrelevant to the fact it is very harmful to humans.

5. Abortion - again, both parties are in error. Jesus never mentioned abortion and likewise, neither should a follower of his make it an issue. Jesus clearly teaches our focus should be on helping the already born. There are severe problems with just outright banning abortion, because in many red states, women who medically need an abortion because of severe danger to their health can no longer get one; Texas has a horrendous track record of denying abortions to women who are carrying a dead fetus, which can kill the mother.

6. War - many Democrats believe in so-called 'just' wars. I'm against all wars unless directly authorized by God. No human induced war has ever solved anything--war invariably leads to more war. Only God can wage righteous war. When Jesus says twice that all who live by the sword will die by the sword, he isn't kidding.

7. Capitalism - most Democrats claim to be capitalists, which I consider one of the greatest evils on earth. Capitalism openly encourages human greed and expressly teaches that greed will ultimately help the majority of people, the exact opposite of what the Bible says.

8. Democrats like Republicans, typically endorse the American Revolution, which the Bible is strongly against (Romans 13) and so am I. The majority of American people were far worse off after the revolution than before, which seems historically to always be the case. Shay's Rebellion and several other significant rebellions were violently suppressed by the wealthy ruling class. Many colonist soldiers lost their farms and ended up in debtors prison, a fate worse than death. A large number were permanently severely injured and/or disabled. Only White males who owned property could vote after the revolution ended, even though the motto of the revolution was "no taxation without representation." This is perhaps the main reason why there were significant rebellions after the revolution.

Generally speaking, Democrats want the government to promote the general welfare of our people, which is what the Constitution clearly states our government is for, which the Bible strongly agrees with and which I also agree with. Republicans supposedly want limited government, a bad idea, while Trump in every way demonstrates he wants total control by himself, the opposite of the typical Republican viewpoint. Governments work best when they actually help their citizens, which Republicans invariably call "socialism".

Human beings are sinners and the general Republican belief of less regulation is a horrible idea. Business that is left unregulated will greatly harm and impoverish the general population and eventually lead to violent revolution, as happened in the Russian, French, Chinese and many other revolutions.
 
You apparently just want to argue.
Not at all. What I wanted to show you is a mirror of how you are presenting as truth, without giving equal/same consideration for the opposite side that you support. What you provided, after asking you enough times, falls way short of the listing you did against the GOP. Oh, and no I won't provide you the errors done by the DNC. I can remember when they removed belief in God from their platform during one of the presidential campaigns. That told me not much would follow that would adhere to scripture not that they were close to following it before then.

Either side matters little to me. I'm actually an Independent. I don't vote party, but individual. Though that is becoming harder to do, since, the DNC goes lock-step in their voting, which the Republicans are now following suit as well in doing this. No matter how wrong it is, and though they may personally disagree with the object of their vote, they will still vote along party lines. Sadly, Statesmen have long gone the way of the dinosaur.

I do give you some credit for attempting it at least. Sorry if it caused you heart ache in the attempt. Maybe, one day you'll come to understand what objective writing can provide to the reader. Not something you will find in the media in these days, regardless of which side you ascribe to. We're in the World, but not of it.

Moderator Note: As a reminder, please keep political commentary out of your posts. From now on, any such content will be removed. As the name suggests, this site is called Talk Jesus, not Talk Trump, DNC, GOP, or similar. Current events are fine as is news of the day but using it to bash political opponents it is not. You should be respectful and be praying for whatever party God has placed in authority.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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