I am confident in the Lord that He will save all those who believe in Him, even in His name. After salvation, may He direct those to look to Him to keep them from their sins daily thus by relying on Him to no longer live in them.
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Faith alone is DEAD it CANNOT say anyone.
Faith in Jesus Christ is how we are the children of God.
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith....
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Him helping me to follow Him is why I will give Him thanks for that too because He is my Good Shepherd and not just my Saviour as i thank the Father for my having believed in His Son since I was a tot and has been saved since too.
Sinners that have trouble quitting sins on their own will realize that what you say is not true when they come to & believe in Jesus Christ for salvation because He will deliver them from their sins too and keep them from their sins daily.
It is not about us nor about man, but acknowledging that we are sinners in need of Jesus Christ as God Our Savior.
After salvation, they can look to Him daily with confidence for help in following Him in keeping them free from weights ( provisions for the flesh ) as well as from the sins daily for He is our Good Shepherd too.
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No one gets saved until they obey by repenting of their sins.
No such thing as saved by dead faith and then have to obey later.
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GodB4Us John 3:16 For God so loved the world that is personal bro and God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34) I know this for a fact! I should have died no less then 3 times during the Vietnam War, and I was no believer at the time either! Where in the Word does it say Jesus loves you but not personally until you become a believer?? lol
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Who could disagree ??
But if I may make an observation (after reading numerous interactions here), @GodB4Us invalidates this assertion by adding in the word ALL.... repenting of ALL of their sins - at once ... to include future sins, and then has concluded that since this is impossible, Repentance itself is impossible. One would gather, then, that all those Baptized of John, or Jesus and the disciples must not be saved. He seems reluctant, though, to actually state that.
And if I may make a suggestion? "No one gets saved until they obey by repenting of those sins for which the Holy Ghost has brought a conviction to repent, the first and foremost sin being that of unbelief, for how could one repent if one hadn't believed in repentance ??
But unless I'm mistaken, @GodB4Us intrinsically links the crucifixion with salvation. So how could one get saved at all before the Crucifixion? Of course the only conclusion here is that nobody was ever saved before Paul's message of Christ and him Crucified. This is a well known theological position and has led to the long time term of "Pauline Christians." (Not to be conflated with hyper-dispensationalists or Acts 28 Christians.
Needless to say, I am not a "Pauline Christian."
The Holy Spirit convicts one of sin, even if the sin of unbelief, but in specific the sins that are currently oppressing a person. When such conviction abides in the heart, repentance is the only salvation, and as mentioned above, how could one repent in the name of Jesus if one hasn't believed in Jesus ??
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The Love that God has shown the world is the act of sending His Son.
I'd suggest that a Son of God (adopted) had been praying for you while in Vietnam, and God was faithful to that servant.
Might you know whom was praying for you?
Blessings,
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Hello @God's Truth,
I gave an answer in entering Romans 6:9-15. You have assumed that I have gone against you.
I believe that when we come to God, through His Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and ask for forgiveness of sin; God's righteousness is imputed to us, and we are therefore to reckon that we are, by God's grace dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord, and live in newness of life before the Father, in Christ Jesus our Lord.
That is what Romans 6:9-15 was intended to convey.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
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I am shamed, by the unbiblical approach of “GodB4us”, Rhema, th1Bill, God’sTruth, Luminary, Complete, brighthouse98”, directed to a “Unregenerate” person, concerning “The gospel according to Jesus Christ”.
It seems that no one in this thread, have even attempt to present “The Gospel according to Jesus Christ” to the Title Thread “Author”. Shame on all of you.
It seems like no one here, have been taught or have been a disciple of Christ. The Evidence is all here.
And that is all I am going to say, because everybody on this Thread that I have listed will only fight the words I will say, And will only proclaim, I know, I know, I know And will not “Endure Sound Doctrine concerning this “TRUTH”.
There is No Evidence that any have been trained in The Field of “Evangelism”! By the presentations I have observed hear!
It maybe a blessing to this person to only have Appeared once…. Because it seems no one has the Approach ability or skill to do Evangelistic work!
I took my time and read [speed read] every post for some reason I was “critiquing” but not aware what I was doing, every post.
And then, the light came on. Then I said naw, that can’t be.
Then I read again every post.
not one time, The Presentation of “The Gospel According to JESUS Christ”. Not even a hint.
So when that person comes back to read the “Drumroll”, they will most likely receive Nothing but Chatter “Untempered Mortar”
I say, shame on all of you! This is not a “Doctoral error”
This is not understanding the Presentation of “The Gospel According to Jesus Christ”
It seems that no one in this thread, have even attempt to present “The Gospel according to Jesus Christ” to the Title Thread “Author”. Shame on all of you.
It seems like no one here, have been taught or have been a disciple of Christ. The Evidence is all here.
And that is all I am going to say, because everybody on this Thread that I have listed will only fight the words I will say, And will only proclaim, I know, I know, I know
And will not “Endure Sound Doctrine concerning this “TRUTH”.There is No Evidence that any have been trained in The Field of “Evangelism”! By the presentations I have observed hear!
It maybe a blessing to this person to only have Appeared once…. Because it seems no one has the Approach ability or skill to do Evangelistic work!
I took my time and read [speed read] every post for some reason I was “critiquing” but not aware what I was doing, every post.
And then, the light came on. Then I said naw, that can’t be.
Then I read again every post.
not one time, The Presentation of “The Gospel According to JESUS Christ”. Not even a hint.
So when that person comes back to read the “Drumroll”, they will most likely receive Nothing but Chatter “Untempered Mortar”
I say, shame on all of you! This is not a “Doctoral error”
This is not understanding the Presentation of “The Gospel According to Jesus Christ”
If we are saved by believing in Him which is also known as obeying the gospel, then after salvation, we keep on believing in Him as our Good Shepherd to help us repent of every weight & sin daily in following Him as the sons of God.
What is Jesus doing for sinners and saved believers daily?
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Some habitual sinners come to Jesus, believing in Him as their Saviour and are saved since, will testify of Him having delivered them totally from their habitual sins while others will testify that they were delivered but need Him daily to keep them from being tempted and falling back into that habitual sin.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Now in a world that is telling sinners that sin is not sin and sin is okay, how are they going to know those sins they need to repent of before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ to be saved? I do not see any example of such a presentation of the gospel anywhere in Acts informing sinners what sin is so they can do what you ask by repenting from all sins before coming to Jesus Christ to believe in Him to be saved.
When they are saved by believing in Jesus Christ, then discipleship begins as you are to teach everything Jesus has taught you BUT with emphasis on our hope in Him to help us to do His commandments in following Him.
You still see nothing wrong with commitments to Christ & promises to God, is that correct?
I can see why you are having a hard time seeing that sinner, Jews & Gentiles alike, simply surrendering to God to call on Him to save him from his sins and not just give him eternal life for believing in Him.
Maybe someday, and hopefully soon, you will see why the just shall live by faith in Jesus Christ because there is no other way to follow Him as His disciples. He is the One that enables us to obey for how and why we are following Him because we are trusting Him at His word that He will do this. That is how you please God.
When God foreknew who would want to be saved by Him, the Father would draw them unto the Son to reveal His Son to him so they can believe and be saved. So, yes, a sinner can know the love of God's protection in hindsight only because later on He will enable him to believe in Him to be saved when it was the right time that he would be seeking Him as He did promise, all those that seek, shall find. And He knows who will never seek Him out too.
Below is an example of God knowing who is seeking Him from those that are not in the ministry of where to send His disciples to.
Acts 16:6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.
8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.
9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.
We are warned not to bother sinners that tell us that they do not want to hear it, but be ready to give an answer to those that ask for the hope that is in us.
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
1 Peter 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
I thank the Father in Jesus's name for protecting you until that time He foreknew that you would be seeking Him that you want to be saved by Jesus Christ
Post # 19 in this thread. The Gospel Presentation on how Sinners can be savedI am shamed, by the unbiblical approach of “GodB4us”, Rhema, th1Bill, God’sTruth, Luminary, Complete, brighthouse98”, directed to a “Unregenerate” person, concerning “The gospel according to Jesus Christ”.
It seems that no one in this thread, have even attempt to present “The Gospel according to Jesus Christ” to the Title Thread “Author”. Shame on all of you.
It seems like no one here, have been taught or have been a disciple of Christ. The Evidence is all here.
And that is all I am going to say, because everybody on this Thread that I have listed will only fight the words I will say, And will only proclaim, I know, I know, I know
There is No Evidence that any have been trained in The Field of “Evangelism”! By the presentations I have observed hear!
It maybe a blessing to this person to only have Appeared once…. Because it seems no one has the Approach ability or skill to do Evangelistic work!
I took my time and read [speed read] every post for some reason I was “critiquing” but not aware what I was doing, every post.
And then, the light came on. Then I said naw, that can’t be.
Then I read again every post.
not one time, The Presentation of “The Gospel According to JESUS Christ”. Not even a hint.
So when that person comes back to read the “Drumroll”, they will most likely receive Nothing but Chatter “Untempered Mortar”
I say, shame on all of you! This is not a “Doctoral error”
This is not understanding the Presentation of “The Gospel According to Jesus Christ”
The rest that you disapprove of is me contending with a brother that discipleship does not come before salvation since we are to look to Jesus Christ daily to help us lay aside every weight & sin but he seems to think sinners can repent from all sins before they come to & believe in Jesus Christ to be saved.
By the way, there is nothing to stop you from presenting the gospel.
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Do ask @God's Truth if he is still saying that sinners are to repent from all sins or not. You quoted him as not saying it in a recent post but he has been saying that a lot in other posts for why I am contending with him as saying that.
The only conviction the Holy Spirit will do is that unforgiveable sin of never believing in Jesus Christ for salvation.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
It is the Father that draws sinners unto the Son John 6:44 KJV to reveal His Son to them so they can believe in Him & be saved Matthew 11:25-27 KJV as it is the Father that gives sinners to Jesus to save John 6:37-40 KJV
By His grace, I am sharing correction by the scripture of Who is actually doing the drawing and the revealing for sinners to see their need of Jesus Christ as their Saviour to repent from unbelief by believing in Him & His words to be saved.
You are mistaken. Jesus told Nicodemus when that born again of the Spirit was to take place which was to occur after His ascension, which is after His crucifixion for whenever any one believes in Him to be saved & this born again.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Not really sure what you mean by Pauline Christian but I agree with his gospel presentation as it agrees with Jesus's words on how any one is saved by believing in Him. I do note also no call to repent from all sins for Him to save any one.
Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
After salvation though, with Jesus Christ in us, saved believers have power to look to Jesus Christ for help to repent from all sins daily in living as His disciples, walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son. 1 John 1:3-2:2 KJV
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How many, may I ask “Evangelistic missions and where was you trained. And have you been on and how many years have you engaged in,, and what countries? And how many Nationalities? If you do not mind sharing.
Who Discipled you?
Jesus Christ is my Good Shepherd. He is discipling me and does a better job than any church has done for me in helping me to abide in Him & His words in following Him daily.
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All Christian’s makes that statement, you ain’t no different! Than the 2.6 Billion of Christian and over that are Scattered across the whole world.!
Well, I certainly cannot prove it to you, but I did answer your question.
How do you answer your own question then?
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Yea, you answered it alright “like an Avocado When it is ripe, and made into “quacamole”.
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Most Christian’s do not believe what the unregenerate really is, and it is right before their faces made plainly revealed in Christ Jesus in Black and white, Plainly revealed! But yet, they still do not believe and got the Holy Ghost, I think, they say they do, but I truly wonder.
LORD, I Wonder.
Most of the time I feel like “Isaiah” LORD, I am the only one left.
