How You Will Know the real Holy Spirit from the spirit of the antichrist

[brighthouse98]

I think what you will find most interesting is that after one comes to Jesus as the disciples did, notice not one single time did ANY EVER REPENT of anything!! Example of a sharp disagreement! ( Acts 15:36-41) Now much later Paul takes Mark back, and no one repented of there actions either.( 2 Tim 4:11) If I have to repent of anything after coming to Jesus, then my own work saves me?? I think not!! lol

A saint needs nothing to repent over because Jesus blood covered it already. Now that does not mean you are free to be stupid!! Because a saint which we now are ( 1 Cor 1:2) acts and sounds as a believer! A dog acts and sounds like a dog, we also should act and sound always as a believer!! Now to those who may disagree with me on this, please show me chapter and verse where AFTER!! one comes to the Lord they ever repented of anything.

This revelation has helped me greatly keeping my peace when I do make mistakes, mistakes!! not sin! Sin to me defines one who is a unbeliever. The only sin Jesus blood never covers is unbelief. For a believer acts and sounds as a saint, which we now are. So do not beat yourself up any longer learn from ones mistakes and move forward. Jesus, knows we are a work in progress, and Jesus knows both our heart as well as our hopefully renewed mindset.( Phil 1:6)

 

[GodB4Us]

The witness of God is greater.

You are still not taking in all of God's words for why you are not applying His words rightly.

Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

-Is His House outter darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth? -No, so they are outside His House. This is what happens when you take the words of men over the Word of God. You do greatly err. And if you think these wicked and naked are "saved" Woe to you.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

And here is what happens when I do what you did to me to you.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

"Uh oh. Woe is going to come unto God for doing that, making those people who were not His people and then suddenly they are His people. Oh look. God said it. Hs word cannot change. Woe comes to God now." <--- see how that is not rightly dividing the word of truth here?

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Here we go again; "Oh no... the people and the nations shall curse and abhor God for calling those people His people ( righteous ) that were not His people." <----- another example of not rightly dividing the word of truth.

Now that we have that out of the way; you still have to address why the vessels unto dishonor that did not depart from iniquity are still in His House as vessels of wood & earth.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

So ask Jesus Christ this question; how can there be vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood & earth, be those that did not depart from iniquity when those that are vessels unto honor are those that did depart from iniquity?

 

[GodB4Us]

I think what you will find most interesting is that after one comes to Jesus as the disciples did, notice not one single time did ANY EVER REPENT of anything!! Example of a sharp disagreement! ( Acts 15:36-41) Now much later Paul takes Mark back, and no one repented of there actions either.( 2 Tim 4:11) If I have to repent of anything after coming to Jesus, then my own work saves me?? I think not!! lol

Not for saving yourself but for abiding in Him as we ought but we do so by faith in Jesus Christ to help us to abide in Him as the Good Shepherd He is.

A saint needs nothing to repent over because Jesus blood covered it already. Now that does not mean you are free to be stupid!! Because a saint which we now are ( 1 Cor 1:2) acts and sounds as a believer! A dog acts and sounds like a dog, we also should act and sound always as a believer!! Now to those who may disagree with me on this, please show me chapter and verse where AFTER!! one comes to the Lord they ever repented of anything.

We are to live a life of repentance by looking to Jesus Christ to help us lay aside every weight & sin daily in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son, and so if a believer sins, they are to confess their sins and not just give up and continue to live in sin, but rather ask Him for help not to do that again. That involves repentance but not by looking to yourself to do it, but looking to Him for help to do it since He is the power for living as the sons of God.

This revelation has helped me greatly keeping my peace when I do make mistakes, mistakes!! not sin! Sin to me defines one who is a unbeliever. The only sin Jesus blood never covers is unbelief. For a believer acts and sounds as a saint, which we now are. So do not beat yourself up any longer learn from ones mistakes and move forward. Jesus, knows we are a work in progress, and Jesus knows both our heart as well as our hopefully renewed mindset.( Phil 1:6)

Works do not save a believer when they ae already saved, but what we build on that foundation will be judged. Those who sow the works of the flesh shall reap corruption and run the risk of being denied by the Bridegroom when He comes to judge His House first. Think not of it as a loss of salvation, but a loss of being partakers of the first fruits of the resurrection to be received by the Bridegroom as vessels unto hoor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper in Heaven.

It is very much like Esau that gave up his birth right for a meal ( something temporary ) just as the prodigal son spent his inheritance on wild living and can never get it back, even though he is still son.

This is what discipleship and running that race is all about; not for obtaining salvation, but the high prize of our calling to be received by Him as that vessel unto honor in His House to live forever like the angels and live in that City of God.

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Failing to do so not only risk the losing of one's crown(s) but of becoming a castaway, losing that inheritance in the City of God but to be resurrected after he great tribulation to serve the King of kings in representing Him & that City of God from all over the world in raising up the generations following in that 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.

So running that race is not of works when we are to run by faith in Jesus Christ as being our personal Good Shepherd & Friend to help us lay aside every weight & sin to walk in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son because we cannot live this reconciled relationship with God the Father by any other way than through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ for why it is written that the just shall live by faith.

Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

So there is a need to repent of works of iniquity by looking to Jesus Christ, trusting Him in being our Good Shepherd to help us discern lies & iniquity to repent from to help us to be found abiding in Him for when the Bridegroom comes.

Here is a warning to a church at Thyatira that had gone astray and that if they did not repent, they would be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

When you consider what excommunication is for and how that fellowship at the Marriage Supper in Heaven will be held, it should be no mystery why there will be excommunication of those not ready as found not abiding in Him & His words.

The purpose of excommunication is below.

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

How the Marriage Supper will be held in heaven is below.

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

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[GodB4Us]

-If they repent, they are cleansed from all unrighteousness, and therefore made righteous, and are able to be justified, because they are righteous indeed.

Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

-You seem comitted to bring the wicked into His House, you failed to do it in Heaven, and in Him. So your "vessels of dishonor" are now, at the very best, in hell on earth.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

-What do you think "perish" means?

And How do you explain that all his righteousness shall not be mentioned, and that he shall die in his sins. Does this sound like they are still saved, or will be saved?

You should reconsider with Him about applying verses from the Old Testament when it is under the Old Covenant if you wish to testify how things have changed in God's relationship with believers in the New Covenant.

 

[Daniel L.]

the people and the nations shall curse and abhor God for calling those people His people ( righteous ) that were not His people."

No, the nations abhor you, who try to justify the wicked, implying they are righteous by saying they are "still saved", putting them in His House and so on, it is an abomination.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

-So, obviously the error is not with God, it is with you and your view. Understand the wicked will not be justified, nor saved. And outter darkness is not His House as you are calling it, saying the naked wicked is "still saved", or a "vessel of dishonor" that are "still in His House". His House is not outter darkness, which is were the naked goes after the wedding, so the wicked goes outside His House.

rightly dividing the word of truth

Is Christ divided?

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Psalm 119:89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.

changed in God's relationship

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

 

[GodB4Us]

No, the nations abhor you, who try to justify the wicked, implying they are righteous by saying they are "still saved", putting them in His House and so on, it is an abomination.

What if God was the One that justified them for why the foundation remains with that seal of adoption but because of the works that defiles the temple of God is why they were left behind but still saved?

Until you explain these verses, you are not rightly dividing the word of truth here. I am not going to bolden nor highlight with color nor underline any more. I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to apply these verses to your belief, because I cannot see how you can.

2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. 11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

 

[GodB4Us]

No, the nations abhor you, who try to justify the wicked, implying they are righteous by saying they are "still saved", putting them in His House and so on, it is an abomination.

What if God was the One that justified them for why the foundation remains with that seal of adoption but because of the works that defiles the temple of God is why they were left behind but still saved?

Until you explain these verses, you are not rightly dividing the word of truth here. I am not going to bolden nor highlight with color nor underline any more. I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to apply these verses to your belief, because I cannot see how you can.

2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. 11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

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[PloughBoy]

All of this is nothing but a “Distraction” or for young children to debate in a Sunday children church setting.

 

[Daniel L.]

What if God was the One that justified them

What if you read the Scriptures?
Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

Until you explain these verses

Until you accept the Witness of God, and that His Word endureth forever.

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

 

[PloughBoy]

“12I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you on account of His name. 13I am writing to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I have written to you, children, because you know the Father. 14I have written to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God remains in you, and you have overcome the evil one.

Do Not Love the World

15Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. 17The world is passing AWAY and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God continues to live forever.

18Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now manyantichrists have appeared; fromthis we know that it is the last Hour.”

This World is Dissipating Design by “GOD”!

So I may say, Do not let No one tie you down With “The Elementaries” pertaining to The Things Of GOD

It is only a “Demonic” diversion a tactic of a Skillful “ADVERSARY”.

 

[PloughBoy]

But Now!

9But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that “accompany salvation“ though we are speaking in this way. 10For God is not unjust so as to forget your work and the love which you have shown toward His name, in having ministered and in still ministering to the saints. 11And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence so as to realize the full assurance of hope until the end, 12that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

 

[God's Truth]

I think what you will find most interesting is that after one comes to Jesus as the disciples did, notice not one single time did ANY EVER REPENT of anything!! Example of a sharp disagreement! ( Acts 15:36-41) Now much later Paul takes Mark back, and no one repented of there actions either.( 2 Tim 4:11) If I have to repent of anything after coming to Jesus, then my own work saves me?? I think not!! lol

A saint needs nothing to repent over because Jesus blood covered it already. Now that does not mean you are free to be stupid!! Because a saint which we now are ( 1 Cor 1:2) acts and sounds as a believer! A dog acts and sounds like a dog, we also should act and sound always as a believer!! Now to those who may disagree with me on this, please show me chapter and verse where AFTER!! one comes to the Lord they ever repented of anything.

This revelation has helped me greatly keeping my peace when I do make mistakes, mistakes!! not sin! Sin to me defines one who is a unbeliever. The only sin Jesus blood never covers is unbelief. For a believer acts and sounds as a saint, which we now are. So do not beat yourself up any longer learn from ones mistakes and move forward. Jesus, knows we are a work in progress, and Jesus knows both our heart as well as our hopefully renewed mindset.( Phil 1:6)

We are supposed to repent of any sins we commit after being saved.

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.” - 1 John 1:9

Revelation 3:3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

Revelation 2:5 'Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place-- unless you repent.

 

[God's Truth]

Not for saving yourself but for abiding in Him as we ought but we do so by faith in Jesus Christ to help us to abide in Him as the Good Shepherd He is.

We are to live a life of repentance by looking to Jesus Christ to help us lay aside every weight & sin daily in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son, and so if a believer sins, they are to confess their sins and not just give up and continue to live in sin, but rather ask Him for help not to do that again. That involves repentance but not by looking to yourself to do it, but looking to Him for help to do it since He is the power for living as the sons of God.

Works do not save a believer when they ae already saved, but what we build on that foundation will be judged. Those who sow the works of the flesh shall reap corruption and run the risk of being denied by the Bridegroom when He comes to judge His House first. Think not of it as a loss of salvation, but a loss of being partakers of the first fruits of the resurrection to be received by the Bridegroom as vessels unto hoor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper in Heaven.

It is very much like Esau that gave up his birth right for a meal ( something temporary ) just as the prodigal son spent his inheritance on wild living and can never get it back, even though he is still son.

This is what discipleship and running that race is all about; not for obtaining salvation, but the high prize of our calling to be received by Him as that vessel unto honor in His House to live forever like the angels and live in that City of God.

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Failing to do so not only risk the losing of one's crown(s) but of becoming a castaway, losing that inheritance in the City of God but to be resurrected after he great tribulation to serve the King of kings in representing Him & that City of God from all over the world in raising up the generations following in that 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.

So running that race is not of works when we are to run by faith in Jesus Christ as being our personal Good Shepherd & Friend to help us lay aside every weight & sin to walk in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son because we cannot live this reconciled relationship with God the Father by any other way than through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ for why it is written that the just shall live by faith.

Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

So there is a need to repent of works of iniquity by looking to Jesus Christ, trusting Him in being our Good Shepherd to help us discern lies & iniquity to repent from to help us to be found abiding in Him for when the Bridegroom comes.

Here is a warning to a church at Thyatira that had gone astray and that if they did not repent, they would be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

When you consider what excommunication is for and how that fellowship at the Marriage Supper in Heaven will be held, it should be no mystery why there will be excommunication of those not ready as found not abiding in Him & His words.

The purpose of excommunication is below.

1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

How the Marriage Supper will be held in heaven is below.

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

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Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling

Colossians 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.

Romans 2:6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10 but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.

2 Corinthians 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

 

[brighthouse98]

God's truth 1 John 1:9 a message given to unbelievers please go back to verse 5, next Rev 3:3 written to a specific Church, Rev 2:5 written to a specific Church notice some differences as to what they lack in. You must read in entire context. I used to be a Lutheran and a Baptist and know the scare tactics they use to there members, to keep them needing there doctrine. lol If I slap you across the face or you do that to me and say I am sorry does that take the slap you or I gave you away?? Ah NO!

LOL Truth lies not in Man made Doctrine, truth lies in God's own Word. Please read Romans 6,7,8 to get a clearer picture ( Rom 8:2) And if Jesus does not look at his people in this light no one can be saved! ( Phil 4:7-9) Same way, we in Christ can keep our peace in his. Saints!!! ( 1 Cor 1:2) are not sinners any longer because we have placed our total faith in our Jesus. But thanks for your opinion on the subject!

 

[God's Truth]

God's truth 1 John 1:9 a message given to unbelievers please go back to verse 5, next Rev 3:3 written to a specific Church, Rev 2:5 written to a specific Church notice some differences as to what they lack in. You must read in entire context. I used to be a Lutheran and a Baptist and know the scare tactics they use to there members, to keep them needing there doctrine. lol If I slap you across the face or you do that to me and say I am sorry does that take the slap you or I gave you away?? Ah NO!

LOL Truth lies not in Man made Doctrine, truth lies in God's own Word. Please read Romans 6,7,8 to get a clearer picture ( Rom 8:2) And if Jesus does not look at his people in this light no one can be saved! ( Phil 4:7-9) Same way, we in Christ can keep our peace in his. Saints!!! ( 1 Cor 1:2) are not sinners any longer because we have placed our total faith in our Jesus. But thanks for your opinion on the subject!

Jesus says not one scripture can be put aside, and I gave scriptures that plainly show us that after one is saved, if they sin, then they are to repent of it.

 

[brighthouse98]

You are quoting from John 10:35 Please read what he was talking about here. (John 10:32-38) they were non-believers. You cannot twist scripture to fit you opinion. I had to learn this the hard way myself!! LOL But its ok I understand, just wanted to help others is all. It took me 3 long years to really find out how and why many religions which we should not have, has divided the body of Christ.

 

[God's Truth]

You are quoting from John 10:35 Please read what he was talking about here. (John 10:32-38) they were non-believers. You cannot twist scripture to fit you opinion. I had to learn this the hard way myself!! LOL But its ok I understand, just wanted to help others is all. It took me 3 long years to really find out how and why many religions which we should not have, has divided the body of Christ.

Jesus says no scripture can be put aside. My saying that Jesus says that is not my twisting any scripture, it means you can't put aside the scriptures that say we are to repent after being saved.

I do hope we Christians can be more like minded.

Think about it more, and tell me, if you sin after being saved, are you sorry for it?

Do you try to not do it anymore?

Answer those questions if you will, and so we can continue in this very important topic.

 

[brighthouse98]

Hey God's Truth! I so agree with wanting to be like minded!! So, we sure agree there. Next and here is where we differ. We define sin different. I cannot sin, where you believe we can sin. Now this is just how I perceive this. Sin= An unbeliever to me once becoming a believer, there is evidence as you well know, also we LACK not sin, we have faults, but not sin. For Sin means that the blood of Jesus was not enough to cover sins of the past, present, and future. And I have to do that work to repent?? No believer ever did in God's Word, so why should I?? Loli believe VERY STRONGLY about (James 1:22!!!) And do my best as I am sure you do, to be an example as Paul was, and we are always in his will because we know the secret of always staying in his Will!!! (1 Thess 5:18!!!) Blessing!

 

[God's Truth]

Hey God's Truth! I so agree with wanting to be like minded!! So, we sure agree there. Next and here is where we differ. We define sin different. I cannot sin, where you believe we can sin. Now this is just how I perceive this. Sin= An unbeliever to me once becoming a believer, there is evidence as you well know, also we LACK not sin, we have faults, but not sin. For Sin means that the blood of Jesus was not enough to cover sins of the past, present, and future. And I have to do that work to repent?? No believer ever did in God's Word, so why should I?? Loli believe VERY STRONGLY about (James 1:22!!!) And do my best as I am sure you do, to be an example as Paul was, and we are always in his will because we know the secret of always staying in his Will!!! (1 Thess 5:18!!!) Blessing!

We still have to call sin 'sin'.
Paul explains what sins are, and so does Jesus, and even after he ascended to heaven, as told to us in Revelation.
Here Paul teaches BELIEVERS about struggling with SIN.
Paul calls it "sin".
Hebrews 12:4 In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “the Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

Paul tells us what we can't do:

Galatians 5:19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Colossians 3:5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.

Read what John says, he says to saved believers if they "sin".

1 John 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.

We are told we have deceived ourselves if we just keep sinning as always.

Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

James 1:16 Don't be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters.

James 1:22 Be doers of the word, and not hearers only. Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves.

 

[joestue]

the problem i have with these kinds of threads is..

if you really believe that your human mind must work to interpret the bible correctly, to prevent you from falling into deception, then why not just admit that your reasoning is circular? how do you know your human understanding of scripture is good enough to prevent you from being deceived by a false spirit? by definition you cannot know that!

so the thread starts out with a warning :

"Many believers today are testifying to feeling "His Presence" in the worship place or in a room or where ever they are at, but that is where the spirit of the antichrist is at for why the Holy Spirit would not "visit" like that when He is in us."

and i have probably witnessed false spirits influence believers more often than the Holy Spirit has. One person on reddit asked the question "when is the last time you saw a move of the Holy Spirit in a church" and my first thought was: "when the Holy Spirit told a certain person to leave".

but instead of a practical discussion on ways to ensure we are not deceived, we have endless arguments about interpretations of scripture. none of which is actually profitable when it comes to asking the question: how do you know who you're hearing from?

where in the bible do you see a 50 page long argument between believers?