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How did Spirit Beings, fallen angels, inseminate human women to impregnate them if Spirit Beings have no body fluid? Was this done by witchcraft of bringing what is in the spirit world to materialize and manifest in the physical world? I do not understand...
 
Loyal
This is of course controversial.

[NLT]
Gen 6:2; The sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives.
Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.”
Gen 6:4; In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

But angels can become tangible, they have physically touched people in the Bible.

Gen 19:10; But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door.
Hos 12:4; Yes, he wrestled with the angel and won. He wept and pleaded for a blessing from him. There at Bethel he met God face to face, and God spoke to him—
Gen 32:25; When the man saw that he would not win the match, he touched Jacob’s hip and wrenched it out of its socket.
 
Loyal
How did Spirit Beings, fallen angels, inseminate human women to impregnate them if Spirit Beings have no body fluid? Was this done by witchcraft of bringing what is in the spirit world to materialize and manifest in the physical world? I do not understand...
Right you don't understand. Because it has never happen! You know better, and stop hanging around the wrong water cooler! LOL! you know better!!! I am not going to address that.:joy: I have told this group once: Angels don't "P"! and there are no "Toilets" in Heaven! And Angels are not "Creators"! LOL:joy: and Angels do not have "Hospitals" and "Scientist" and "Cosmetic Surgeons"! They might influence mankind" but there are No Angels lying down on "Operating Tables".
 
Loyal
Genesis 6:4
(AMPC) There were giants on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(ASV) The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
(BBE) There were men of great strength and size on the earth in those days; and after that, when the sons of God had connection with the daughters of men, they gave birth to children: these were the great men of old days, the men of great name.
(CEV) The children of the supernatural beings who had married these women became famous heroes and warriors. They were called Nephilim and lived on the earth at that time and even later.
(CSB) The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, the famous men.
(ESV) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
(GNB) In those days, and even later, there were giants on the earth who were descendants of human women and the heavenly beings. They were the great heroes and famous men of long ago.
(Greek OT+) οιG3588 T-NPM δεG1161 PRT γιγαντεςN-NPM ησανG1510 V-IAI-3P επιG1909 PREP τηςG3588 T-GSF γηςG1065 N-GSF ενG1722 PREP ταιςG3588 T-DPF ημεραιςG2250 N-DPF εκειναιςG1565 D-DPF καιG2532 CONJ μετG3326 PREP εκεινοG1565 D-ASN ωςG3739 CONJ ανG302 PRT εισεπορευοντοG1531 V-IMI-3P οιG3588 T-NPM υιοιG5207 N-NPM τουG3588 T-GSM θεουG2316 N-GSM προςG4314 PREP ταςG3588 T-APF θυγατεραςG2364 N-APF τωνG3588 T-GPM ανθρωπωνG444 N-GPM καιG2532 CONJ εγεννωσανG1080 V-AAI-3P εαυτοιςG1438 D-DPM εκεινοιG1565 D-NPM ησανG1510 V-IAI-3P οιG3588 T-NPM γιγαντεςN-NPM οιG3588 T-NPM απG575 PREP αιωνοςG165 N-GSM οιG3588 T-NPM ανθρωποιG444 N-NPM οιG3588 T-NPM ονομαστοιA-NPM
(GW) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, as well as later, when the sons of God slept with the daughters of other humans and had children by them. These children were famous long ago.
(HCSB) The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, the famous men.
(Hebrew OT+) הנפליםH5303 היוH1961 בארץH776 בימיםH3117 ההםH1992 וגםH1571 אחריH310 כןH3651 אשׁרH834 יבאוH935 בניH1121 האלהיםH430 אלH413 בנותH1323 האדםH120 וילדוH3205 להם המהH1992 הגבריםH1368 אשׁרH834 מעולםH5769 אנשׁיH376 השׁם׃H8034
(ISV) The Nephilim were on the earth at that time (and also immediately afterward), when those divine beings were having sexual relations with those human women, who gave birth to children for them. These children became the heroes and legendary figures of ancient times.
(KJV) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
(KJVA) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
(MKJV) There were giants in the earth in those days. And also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore to them, they were mighty men who existed of old, men of renown.
(MSG) This was back in the days (and also later) when there were giants in the land. The giants came from the union of the sons of God and the daughters of men. These were the mighty men of ancient lore, the famous ones.
(NAS77) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(NASB) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(NIrV) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days. That was when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. The Nephilim were the heroes of long ago. They were famous men. Nephilim were also on the earth later on.
(NIV) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
(NKJV) There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(NLT) In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.
(RV) The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men which were of old, the men of renown.

Jude 1:6; And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,
Jude 1:7; just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
 
Loyal
This is of course controversial.

[NLT]
Gen 6:2; The sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives.
Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.”
Gen 6:4; In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

But angels can become tangible, they have physically touched people in the Bible.

Gen 19:10; But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door.
Hos 12:4; Yes, he wrestled with the angel and won. He wept and pleaded for a blessing from him. There at Bethel he met God face to face, and God spoke to him—
Gen 32:25; When the man saw that he would not win the match, he touched Jacob’s hip and wrenched it out of its socket.
"In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth"
(Genesis 6)NASB 1977
4The Nephilim [The DINOSAURS] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. [Correct Language syntax copied] "American Standard Version 1977"

THE word Nephilim means "Giants" the word "Dinosaurs" was not "coined" until the 19th century. during the flood they where all "Drown" that is why the bones are scatter all over the world.

Read a good translation of a word for word translation of the "Original Copied Manuscript" The Word of GOD is present to convey a thought! and The "Circe" has done a good Hatchet JOB by the curve of the pen to the real Body of Christ. "But if it was possible they would fool the "Very Elect" "Syntax"
 
Loyal
2Sam 21:16; Then Ishbi-benob, who was among the descendants of the giant, the weight of whose spear was three hundred shekels of bronze in weight, was girded with a new sword, and he intended to kill David.
2Sam 21:18; Now it came about after this that there was war again with the Philistines at Gob; then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Saph, who was among the descendants of the giant.
2Sam 21:20; There was war at Gath again, where there was a man of great stature who had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number; and he also had been born to the giant.
2Sam 21:22; These four were born to the giant in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants.

1Chr 20:4; Now it came about after this, that war broke out at Gezer with the Philistines; then Sibbecai the Hushathite killed Sippai, one of the descendants of the giants, and they were subdued.
1Chr 20:6; Again there was war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature who had twenty-four fingers and toes, six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot; and he also was descended from the giants.
1Chr 20:8; These were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants.

1Sam 17:4; Then a champion came out from the armies of the Philistines named Goliath, from Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

Deut 1:28; 'Where can we go up? Our brethren have made our hearts melt, saying, "The people are bigger and taller than we; the cities are large and fortified to heaven. And besides, we saw the sons of the Anakim there."'
Deut 2:10; (The Emim lived there formerly, a people as great, numerous, and tall as the Anakim.

Numb 13:33; "There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight."

1Chr 11:23; He killed an Egyptian, a man of great stature five cubits tall. Now in the Egyptian's hand was a spear like a weaver's beam, but he went down to him with a club and snatched the spear from the Egyptian's hand and killed him with his own spear.
 
Member
Right you don't understand. Because it has never happen! You know better, and stop hanging around the wrong water cooler! LOL! you know better!!! I am not going to address that.:joy: I have told this group once: Angels don't "P"! and there are no "Toilets" in Heaven! And Angels are not "Creators"! LOL:joy: and Angels do not have "Hospitals" and "Scientist" and "Cosmetic Surgeons"! They might influence mankind" but there are No Angels lying down on "Operating Tables".
Right but I do not deny the word of God and the Bible says " Now the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and after. ". Who are these beings on the earth spoken of? It's a load of crap? Is that what you are telling me? The be Bible is the wrong " water cooler"?
 
Member
This is of course controversial.

[NLT]
Gen 6:2; The sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives.
Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.”
Gen 6:4; In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

But angels can become tangible, they have physically touched people in the Bible.

Gen 19:10; But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door.
Hos 12:4; Yes, he wrestled with the angel and won. He wept and pleaded for a blessing from him. There at Bethel he met God face to face, and God spoke to him—
Gen 32:25; When the man saw that he would not win the match, he touched Jacob’s hip and wrenched it out of its socket.
So you are in saying they can be physical in our world if they want to be.
 
Member
Genesis 6:4
(AMPC) There were giants on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(ASV) The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
(BBE) There were men of great strength and size on the earth in those days; and after that, when the sons of God had connection with the daughters of men, they gave birth to children: these were the great men of old days, the men of great name.
(CEV) The children of the supernatural beings who had married these women became famous heroes and warriors. They were called Nephilim and lived on the earth at that time and even later.
(CSB) The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, the famous men.
(ESV) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
(GNB) In those days, and even later, there were giants on the earth who were descendants of human women and the heavenly beings. They were the great heroes and famous men of long ago.
(Greek OT+) οιG3588 T-NPM δεG1161 PRT γιγαντεςN-NPM ησανG1510 V-IAI-3P επιG1909 PREP τηςG3588 T-GSF γηςG1065 N-GSF ενG1722 PREP ταιςG3588 T-DPF ημεραιςG2250 N-DPF εκειναιςG1565 D-DPF καιG2532 CONJ μετG3326 PREP εκεινοG1565 D-ASN ωςG3739 CONJ ανG302 PRT εισεπορευοντοG1531 V-IMI-3P οιG3588 T-NPM υιοιG5207 N-NPM τουG3588 T-GSM θεουG2316 N-GSM προςG4314 PREP ταςG3588 T-APF θυγατεραςG2364 N-APF τωνG3588 T-GPM ανθρωπωνG444 N-GPM καιG2532 CONJ εγεννωσανG1080 V-AAI-3P εαυτοιςG1438 D-DPM εκεινοιG1565 D-NPM ησανG1510 V-IAI-3P οιG3588 T-NPM γιγαντεςN-NPM οιG3588 T-NPM απG575 PREP αιωνοςG165 N-GSM οιG3588 T-NPM ανθρωποιG444 N-NPM οιG3588 T-NPM ονομαστοιA-NPM
(GW) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, as well as later, when the sons of God slept with the daughters of other humans and had children by them. These children were famous long ago.
(HCSB) The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them. They were the powerful men of old, the famous men.
(Hebrew OT+) הנפליםH5303 היוH1961 בארץH776 בימיםH3117 ההםH1992 וגםH1571 אחריH310 כןH3651 אשׁרH834 יבאוH935 בניH1121 האלהיםH430 אלH413 בנותH1323 האדםH120 וילדוH3205 להם המהH1992 הגבריםH1368 אשׁרH834 מעולםH5769 אנשׁיH376 השׁם׃H8034
(ISV) The Nephilim were on the earth at that time (and also immediately afterward), when those divine beings were having sexual relations with those human women, who gave birth to children for them. These children became the heroes and legendary figures of ancient times.
(KJV) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
(KJVA) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
(MKJV) There were giants in the earth in those days. And also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore to them, they were mighty men who existed of old, men of renown.
(MSG) This was back in the days (and also later) when there were giants in the land. The giants came from the union of the sons of God and the daughters of men. These were the mighty men of ancient lore, the famous ones.
(NAS77) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(NASB) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(NIrV) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days. That was when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. The Nephilim were the heroes of long ago. They were famous men. Nephilim were also on the earth later on.
(NIV) The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
(NKJV) There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(NLT) In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.
(RV) The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men which were of old, the men of renown.

Jude 1:6; And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,
Jude 1:7; just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
Ok thank you.
 
Member
"In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth"
(Genesis 6)NASB 1977
4The Nephilim [The DINOSAURS] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. [Correct Language syntax copied] "American Standard Version 1977"

THE word Nephilim means "Giants" the word "Dinosaurs" was not "coined" until the 19th century. during the flood they where all "Drown" that is why the bones are scatter all over the world.

Read a good translation of a word for word translation of the "Original Copied Manuscript" The Word of GOD is present to convey a thought! and The "Circe" has done a good Hatchet JOB by the curve of the pen to the real Body of Christ. "But if it was possible they would fool the "Very Elect" "Syntax"
So Goliath was a dinosaur? That doesn't sound right.
 
Loyal
So Goliath was a dinosaur? That doesn't sound right.
I must be in a great error and miss over a hundred times of reading the story of David, and I do not recall one Time that Goliath was Call a "Nephilim" a word that was pen or coined around 1450-1410 B.C. at the writings of Genesis, of a event that took place after the Whole living world of living life had been "Destroyed" per se "The Almighty GOD" except for those on "Noah's Ark. And at the time of the writings of The Book of 1st Samuel concern "Goliath" which was Recorded in 10th century B.C., century's upon centuries after "The Tower of Babel" of the confusion of Languages. But in the writing 1450-1410 B.C. also of The Book of Numbers when referring to "Kadesh-barnea" the word "Nephilim" was not use but giants was. But at That time God did Use the word "WILD Beast" {not referring to "Nephilim" which was destroyed by the flood] would devour them at that time. Now back to Dinosaurs, they did exists, There had to be according to grace a recorded event is more likable for a word for Dinosaur and that word was "Nephilim" the only time such a word was recorded in 'Biblical History" in the "Original copied Manuscript" and by using the real "WORD of GOD' and not a translation, then having a more Word for Word translation of The Original Copied Manuscript. and proper Language syntax and understand The Hebrew syntax of writing style and a little plain sense. and "final common denominator" ! Jesus has said; in essence, Angels are created beings, they do not reproduce, they do not have sex!!! And The Human race is evil and every man is a liar! Let the word of God be true and let every man is a liar!

I didn't read verses, for verses are not Ordain by GOD, neither is verses "Holy Scripture" Neither is verses the Word of GOD! neither are verses of GOD!
[verses meaning the numbers that you can locate a sentence or paragraph location. This does not mean they are wrong but they can lead to wrong practices]


I try to own up to this portion of The Bible inwhich im many cases I fall short.:pensive: and truly one of my weakness which many on "TalkJesus" will testify.
(1 Peter 3:15)
But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. “Do not fear what they fear; do not be shaken.” But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who slander you may be put to shame by your good behavior in Christ.…

my gentle ness needs a lot of work!
 
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How did Spirit Beings, fallen angels, inseminate human women to impregnate them if Spirit Beings have no body fluid? Was this done by witchcraft of bringing what is in the spirit world to materialize and manifest in the physical world? I do not understand...
Good question....Angels have solid, touchable bodies...One example is where Peter was in jail and as people were praying for his release, an angel came to the jail, found Peter asleep, and kicked him in the ribs (gently I hope) to wake him up, then he opened to door and let Peter out.
Another instance...Two angels (or was it three) visited Lot in Sodom, you remember...The men of the city wanted Lot to hand the angels, who looked like men, over to them. Remember? Lot offered his daughter in their stead. Fortunately the angels took care of it. If the angels had no bodies why would the men want them?
 
Active
This is of course controversial.

[NLT]
Gen 6:2; The sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives.
Gen 6:3; Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.”
Gen 6:4; In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

But angels can become tangible, they have physically touched people in the Bible.

Gen 19:10; But the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door.
Hos 12:4; Yes, he wrestled with the angel and won. He wept and pleaded for a blessing from him. There at Bethel he met God face to face, and God spoke to him—
Gen 32:25; When the man saw that he would not win the match, he touched Jacob’s hip and wrenched it out of its socket.
I'm not sure what you find controversial...
 
Loyal
Good question....Angels have solid, touchable bodies...One example is where Peter was in jail and as people were praying for his release, an angel came to the jail, found Peter asleep, and kicked him in the ribs (gently I hope) to wake him up, then he opened to door and let Peter out.
Another instance...Two angels (or was it three) visited Lot in Sodom, you remember...The men of the city wanted Lot to hand the angels, who looked like men, over to them. Remember? Lot offered his daughter in their stead. Fortunately the angels took care of it. If the angels had no bodies why would the men want them?
I don't think they took off there clothes to see what was under them!:eyes: and not only that "they were "Destroying Angels" and only two! under a "Divine decree" they had more Power not only to destroy Sodom and Gormorrah but could destroy the whole Universe if GOD command it!
 
Loyal
Wow. LOL Goliath was a giant...as were his four brothers...In fact the Philistines were giants, of whom Goliath and his brothers were a part
He was a giant for the bible tells us His height of almost 9 1/2 feet tall.

But not bigger than the bear I saw about 11 feet tall! Now that was a Giant! and It had teeth!
 
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I know but dude said the giants were dinosaurs, didn't he?
I didn't see that but you read my bio and I'm getting tired...Goliath was not a dinosaur though He was a ten foot giant with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot. Probably had double rows of teeth too.
 
Member
I must be in a great error and miss over a hundred times of reading the story of David, and I do not recall one Time that Goliath was Call a "Nephilim" a word that was pen or coined around 1450-1410 B.C. at the writings of Genesis, of a event that took place after the Whole living world of living life had been "Destroyed" per se "The Almighty GOD" except for those on "Noah's Ark. And at the time of the writings of The Book of 1st Samuel concern "Goliath" which was Recorded in 10th century B.C., century's upon centuries after "The Tower of Babel" of the confusion of Languages. But in the writing 1450-1410 B.C. also of The Book of Numbers when referring to "Kadesh-barnea" the word "Nephilim" was not use but giants was. But at That time God did Use the word "WILD Beast" {not referring to "Nephilim" which was destroyed by the flood] would devour them at that time. Now back to Dinosaurs, they did exists, There had to be according to grace a recorded event is more likable for a word for Dinosaur and that word was "Nephilim" the only time such a word was recorded in 'Biblical History" in the "Original copied Manuscript" and by using the real "WORD of GOD' and not a translation, then having a more Word for Word translation of The Original Copied Manuscript. and proper Language syntax and understand The Hebrew syntax of writing style and a little plain sense. and "final common denominator" ! Jesus has said; in essence, Angels are created beings, they do not reproduce, they do not have sex!!! And The Human race is evil and every man is a liar! Let the word of God be true and let every man is a liar!

I didn't read verses, for verses are not Ordain by GOD, neither is verses "Holy Scripture" Neither is verses the Word of GOD! neither are verses of GOD!
[verses meaning the numbers that you can locate a sentence or paragraph location. This does not mean they are wrong but they can lead to wrong practices]


I try to own up to this portion of The Bible inwhich im many cases I fall short.:pensive: and truly one of my weakness which many on "TalkJesus" will testify.
(1 Peter 3:15)
But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. “Do not fear what they fear; do not be shaken.” But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who slander you may be put to shame by your good behavior in Christ.…

my gentle ness needs a lot of work!
I apologize. I was amusing myself at your expense which is wrong but I had to. I know who Goliath was...it was just my corny humor. I'm a dork. I'm sorry.
 
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Good question....Angels have solid, touchable bodies...One example is where Peter was in jail and as people were praying for his release, an angel came to the jail, found Peter asleep, and kicked him in the ribs (gently I hope) to wake him up, then he opened to door and let Peter out.
Another instance...Two angels (or was it three) visited Lot in Sodom, you remember...The men of the city wanted Lot to hand the angels, who looked like men, over to them. Remember? Lot offered his daughter in their stead. Fortunately the angels took care of it. If the angels had no bodies why would the men want them?
That is a good point. I wonder how many angels we have encountered and didn't even know it.
 
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