Funny how we get from hardened hearts to man's creation
Genesis says man was created on the sixth day. We were "created" by God. No existed in any form before this.
Gen 1:26; Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Gen 1:27; God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
The verses below actually come BEFORE the verses above. The fish, cattle, and animals were created before man was. The earth was created before man was.
Gen 1:20; Then God said, "Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens."
Gen 1:21; God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:22; God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth."
Gen 1:23; There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.
Gen 1:24; Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so.
Gen 1:25; God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
Man wasn't alive, God "breathed" life into man. No man was alive before this.
Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
At the risk of being chauvinistic here.... man was created before woman.
Gen 2:18; Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him."
Gen 2:21; So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place.
Gen 2:22; The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.
Gen 2:23; The man said, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man."
Gen 2:24; For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
No woman existed or lived before this time. But we are back to,,, God only created two sexes (brought up in another thread)
God didn't another man to become Adams "helper". He created a woman. Only a man and a woman can become "one flesh" according to God.
1 Cor 15:45; So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1 Tim 2:13; For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.
Adam was the first man. No man existed before Adam.
Jesus existed before all of this, but Jesus was not a man before all of this.
Heb 2:7; "YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;
Heb 2:9; But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
If man is "lower" than the angels, and Jesus was at some point "higher" than the angels, then Jesus was something more than a man or an angel. How much more?
John 1:3; All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
Col 1:15; He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
Col 1:16; For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.
Col 1:17; He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
Jesus created everything. Jesus is God of course (part of the Trinity) It says here Jesus was the "firstborn" of creation. That doesn't mean He didn't exist before creation, it simply means when creation came into being, Jesus was the first thing in the material creation.
No man existed before this. As it says above... we are "created" by God. After the earth existed. After the the plants and animals existed.
1 Cor 15:46; However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.
1 Cor 15:47; The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.
1 Cor 15:48; As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.
1 Cor 15:49; Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.
Our spirit does not exist before... in fact we do not exist in any form before... we are conceived in the womb. God may have known our name before we were conceived, but I knew all of my children's names before they were born also.
To say we lived forever before we were created is to make us equal with God. If we lived in a "pre" forever that would make us immortal, however...
1 Cor 15:53; For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Cor 15:54; But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory.
"the morttal will have to put on immortality".
Apparently we were NOT immortal before this, so that means we did exist before this time.