"The Lord said to my Lord..."
"Let us make man in our image"
What translation should I be reading?
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"The Lord said to my Lord..."
"Let us make man in our image"
What translation should I be reading?
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Need to add Catholicism, and Islam into that anti Christ basket, as all deny the humanity of the Son and do not understand in the least the process which he termed the WAY.
He as a man showed us the WAY into becoming what he attained to. If he had started out as God we would have no chance in obtaining to the same glorification
(JOINT-HEIRS). But since he tells us that he will allow the overcomer to sit in his throne as he overcame and has sit down in his Fathers throne there must be a shot at obtaining this goal. But only if we all had the same starting point as MEN. He was sinless, we are not. Forgiveness of sins is not the same as Baptism in the Holy Ghost for this is the giving of life within the believer (spiritual conception) as he also received of the Father at Jordan setting the example. But as we see in John20:1-22 it tells us exactly when he was glorified and then was able to give us that same life within ourselves that he had. Prior to his Glorification he did not have that power as John 7:39 states ...The Holy Ghost was not yet given because Jesus had not yet been glorified.
THE WORD OF GOD BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US. INDEED, BUT YET HE CALLS HIMSELF THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, THESE 3 THINGS SUM UP WHAT THE MEANING OF THE "WORD" REALLY IS. THE WORD OF TRUTH, AND THE WAY INTO LIFE. A blueprint if you will. FOLLOW ME.
The simplicity of the reconciliation of ALL men is that God gave us an example in giving a man to the world who taught the WORD or plan (easier to understand the meaning of plan than word) WORD being the translation of LOGOS which means PLAN this is where the confusion is so rampant. His Son born of a woman (flesh begets flesh) received the Spirit at Jordan then began the ministry of teaching us the PLAN or WORD of reconciliation. This is our ministry? After his death burial and resurrection he ascended to the Father to be glorified as explained in John 20:1-22, at that time he became equal with God in that he had life within himself and he could give that life to others who believe, God made it his responsibility, (greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for his friends) The life he layed down was one of a spiritually begotten Son which is why he was given power to give to the believer the Holy Ghost. We cannot YET!!!. But we have not died and been resurrected and subsequently glorified, but after that???????? There is so much more to be seen but this has to be understood first. Man Jesus became Jesus Christ at Jordan, preached the PLAN of reconciliation until his death. After death was raised from the dead by his Father and OUR FATHER, HIS GOD AND OUR GOD, was then glorified and began the reconciliation process through Spirit birth (conception) to the believer through the giving of the Holy Spirit. This process will continue until all of mankind has been reconciled to their FATHER as this was, is, and always will be the PLAN of GOD AKA the WORD.
God Bless and may he allow you to see HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS AND KINGDOM WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE TO SEEK FIRST.
To any who doubt or dispute please give dissertation so all can be edified. A single verse or 2 will not cut it for dissertation purposes, that only serves to confuse and distract.
And as professing Christians I would hope that you would not distract or confuse the weak or babes in Christ.
Lol... No person on earth calling themselves a Christian denies the humanity of the Son.
The problem is people who don't know Jesus is the Everlasting Father.
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Tell me how a man can be his own father? Can a GOD be his own Father? This is what you are proposing. So.....
For unto us a child is born. Unto us a son is given. And his name shall be called, the everlasting Father.
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a child is born. ok, so who ever the child may be is he his own father? Is God his own Father? That was not an answer, just a deflection.
Do you know why He's called the Son of God? Only because of the process by which He came into the world.
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Unto us a son is GIVEN. Who gave him?
God.
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I guess Dave disagrees with you as to his human existence.
he did not die he rose on the third day and conquered death,,, can any human do that????
he was baptized to set a example for us to follow
hope this helps you, i
Wait... wat?
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When was the first time that Jesus gave the Holy Ghost to anyone?
The Acts of the Apostles, Chapter Two.
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That would mean theres a whole slew of them that found the path then. Doesn't fit with "FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT" It was the Catholics that you didn't care much for as they killed so many Christians a few days ago that brought out the Trinity doctrine in the first place (COUNCIL NICAEA AD 325) so I think you will have to give the Catholics credit for denying the humanity of the Son.
