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forgiveness sets you free

Thank you all for your kind replies and advice.

I am just going to have to pray to ask God to help me to be able to get to a point where I can forgive the people that I need to forgive!

:love:
 
Thank you all for your kind replies and advice.

I am just going to have to pray to ask God to help me to be able to get to a point where I can forgive the people that I need to forgive!

:love:

><> ><> Just a word of encouragment. :messenger
In Christ alone we can chose to forgive. We know that when we say yes to any of Gods words/promting etc He will show us the next step ''on the way''.
If you agree with God that it is possible ''in Him'' to forgive, your prayers will (as always) be answered.
I pray God may bless you as He did Job.

''It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. ''

For those who find it so difficult to forgive.
It is part of the prayer that Christ modeled for us ''to forgive those who sin against us '' a command, but as we all know it is so difficult to forget. These thing can only be done ''in Christ''
Through the Holy Spirit at work in us.
(forgetting is another matter--thats when we learn)

Have a look at this site Doc. Googled on forgiveness

(edited by LLJ no links without permission)
 
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Thank you for the post. Yes I do agree

"with God that it is possible ''in Him'' to forgive,"

but I know that I can't do it by myself!

Other than praying and asking God for his help, I'm not sure what else I can do about it at the moment.
 
If that means forgiving my abusers, then somehow, with his help, I am going to have to do it.
If we love somebody we will want to please them. I'm sure that the same goes for God.
If we love God, we will want to please him and that, for me, means forgiving my abusers.

:love:

What happened here? Yesterday, you were so overtaken with the love of Jesus for you that you wrote the above quote. Today that message seems to be changing. Jesus does love the world those who don't know Him and those who do. It is only those who choose to let Him come into their lives as Savior and Lord that have an intimate relationship with Him. He does love you and truly let you know His heart toward you yesterday. However, a true love relationship goes both ways. Jesus loves us, but we don't receive the benefits of that relationship until we confess our sin as sin, and turn from it that His forgiveness begins to operate in power. Then He empowers me to forgive others.

If I am not in good relationship with Jesus, or at least want to be, the last thing I will be able to do is to climb up into His lap and pour out my heart to Him. We have to want that true relationship with Him in every way. A true relationship with Jesus is not one that limits Him in our lives. It is one that says You, Jesus, loved me so much that the best "thank you" I can give to you is my life - no strings attached.

James 1:5-8
5 - If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all
liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
6 - But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is
like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
7 - For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from
the Lord;
8 - He is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways

John 14:6, 15
6 - Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through Me.
15 - If you love Me, keep My commandments.

God does love us more than we can comprehend, but
He is no game-player. I have a very serious question for you. Have you ever gotten to a point in your life where you were so sick of your sin that you went to Jesus and told him you are a sinner (and meant it) and needed Him to come into your life and be your Savior? If you haven't, that is the very first step to any of the benefits of being His child and especially one privileged to sit in His lap. He loves you, but the way you love Him back is to invite Him into Your life and exchange your life for His.

One thing I have always told my kids is that the Lord blesses obedience, but He never blesses sin. I am the same way as a parent. When my kids are obedient I want to bless them, but when they are rebellious, I do not bless rebellion.

Gal. 6:7 "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap."

Mercy withholds from us what we deserve; grace gives to us what we
don't deserve. The only way to reap this is by accepting Jesus' as Savior and Lord of our lives.

None of this negates Jesus' message of love for you. He loves you
no matter what, but you have a choice to make and it is your choice, no other person can do this for you. It is yours alone.

Joshua 24:15 "...choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve...But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."

God is giving you every opportunity to choose Him and His ways, but
were I you, I wouldn't keep putting it off..............

Love you much, Brighteyes:love:
 
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I'm so sorry, but I don't know what I've writtten wrong. I don't understand your post Kingskid.

If we love God, we will want to please him and that, for me, means forgiving my abusers.

That statement still stands, but what I was saying earlier today was that I can't do it without God's help.

I'm not trying to play games with anybody, especially God. My understanding was that in God's time, he would get me to a point where I could forgive my abusers. If I have misunderstood, then sorry.

Just because I want to be able to forgive my abusers doesn't mean that I am at the point where I can forgive them.

Sorry if I have misunderstood.
 
Hi sis

I know the forgiveness thing is not the easiest thing ever to do. For me I fought and wrestled with God about it, but He is my Abba Daddy and He knows what is best for me. As said I struggled for over 20 years to forgive my mum, and well did it cause I was at wits end. After I forgave my mum, I enabled our Daddy to start healing my heart and with that our Father can now lovingly guide and work with my mum again.

yes the enemy still at times take the hurt in me to make me angry at my mum, but you know what Greater is He that is within me that he is that is of the world.

So forgiveness is a process and I still do it often, till one day Abba Daddy has healed my heart.

You know when things are real hard for me, I just close my eyes and just imagine that I am dancing and playing with our Heavenly Father. I am a little 4 year old that just love playing with her Daddy. Its easier to deal with things when I think I am that little girl so much loved by her Daddy.

And sis remember you are so much loved by Him too, we all are. When we are hurting, He is crying and just wish we would come to Him to comfort us.

Just start small, God will do the rest.
 
Thank you for your encouragement. I really need it today as I feel so sad.

I tried imagining climbing onto Jesus' lap last night, as Kingskid suggested and just ended up getting very distressed. The idea sounds lovely, as does yours - dancing and playing with God and being accepted by him like a daddy.

I don't seem to have made any progress on this idea of forgiving my abusers today, but if it took you 20 years to reach the point of being able to forgive your mum, then that is hardly surprising!

I got the impression that I was supposed to be able to forgive immediately (or certainly within a day or two). It is so easy to get the wrong idea when everything is baffling and difficult!

Eagle, could you please be more precise with this statement?

- " Just start small, God will do the rest."

What do you mean start small?

I really do not understand.

Sorry

 
Hi sis

When I said do something small and God will do the rest.

Start off with something small to forgive i.e. Mum I forgive you for the hiding you gave me that time when brother was actually guilty.

I continued with the little things till I was crying so much and just kept forgiving her for the bigger things.

Just start off with the small ones and God will put on your heart what to do/say next.

If you can only manage to forgive someone for one thing at a time that’s OK. God knows your heart and He knows how much you can handle at a time.

As you forgive one thing at a time, He will replace the broken pieces of your heart with pieces of His own. He will continue to hold your heart in His hands till you are totally healed.

He loves you so much and wants to see you smile and all healed up. You are His daughter and His child and yep truly the apple of His eye.

before I forget again - when I said that I forgave my mum - yes I did do it from the bottom of my heart. No I have not told it to her that I have forgiven her for the wrong she did in my life, it was a private prayer. One day when God has healed all those secret scars I carry in my heart, maybe then we will be able to have a relationship. Also I asked God to forgive me for being so bitter towards my mum and kept all the unforgiveness in my heart. My mum did not know better as she does not know our heavely Father as a Father.

Please dont put added stress on you to think you have to go to the persons and say I forgive you. Its not needed, just pray and say the person's name and say I forgive you for what you did etc.

Hope it helps.
 
Thanks very much for your advice. I now understand what you meant by starting small.

So from your post, I now get the impression that I am expected to begin forgiving straight away. I don't know where I got the impression that there was a preparation period first. I really thought that God was going to prepare me before I began to forgive.

This is really 'heavy' for this time of night after a really awful day. I'm going to have to work on this tomorrow - and it is not called procrastination. It is called pain, exhaustion, fear and being overwhelmed!!!!!!!!!

 
Eagle

Thank you so much for sharing Your testimony and thanks to everyone else for sharing God's Truth about Forgiveness. It is so powerful to read.

Sadeyes

I am praying. ask the Lord to give His Grace to help you forgive. Do you know any Christian lady who you can trust to talk and pray through this very difficult issue and allow Jesus into your pain to bring you into a place of wholeness but my sisters are right in saying the key to all freedom is forgivenes.

Lord Jesus,
Please help Sadeyes at this time to know You are with her and wanting t lead her step by step so she is able to forgive her abusers and know freedom and complete healing from the past, Amen
 
Thank you Joy for your lovely prayer.

The problem is that I don't know anybody who I can talk about this to or pray with. I feel so alone and unable to cope with the enormity of this situation. I am so scared.

I went to see the local priest last year and he said that he couldn't help me then, so I doubt that he could help me now as this is much bigger than the reason that I went to see him last summer.

I am very frightened of what is going to happen.
 
Do not be afraid dear sister. God knows your heart. He knows all about you.

Give Him all your burdens.

Rest for the Weary
25 At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26 Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

27 "All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

28 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Jesus wants you to be free.
John 8.
31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

God bless you dear sister.

Love in Christ :love: :rainbow: :rose:
 
Jesus loves you so much

Hi Brighteyes,

All I am trying to say is that it sounded to me as though you were going back to the orignal postings of yours that you can't forgive.

Jesus loves you so very, very, very much! He sends strong personal messages when He is really wanting to move in a person's life in a very real way! You are the apple of His eye. He wants to be the apple of your eye.

If you have never had a personal salvation experience with Jesus and invited Him into your life so that He can abide in you and you in Him
(John 15:5), then you won't be able to forgive anybody, not even yourself. None of us can. That is the whole miracle of salvation. Once we are adopted into His family, we become His children and He then begins to produce the fruit of His Spirit (Gal. 5:22-23) in us! Praise the Lord!

Romans 8:12-17a

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors - not to the flesh, to live according
to the flesh.
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit
you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you
received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, Abba, Father.
(Daddy)
16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of
God,
17 and if children, then heirs-heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ...

The wonderful thing about salvation is that we ask Him to wash us clean
and come to live in our lives. That is the greatest miracle to me. He does
and we immediately become His children washed free of guilt and sin
because He took that sin and guilt on Himself when He died to purchase us
as His children. That is when we truly get peace in our lives and are at
home climbing into our Daddy's lap. It is so wonderful!

Love you much Brighteyes!:love:
 
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I am very confused. I have prayed the prayer:

"Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am sinful and in need of Your forgiveness. I repent of my sinful lifestyle and I want to turn from it and follow You. I believe that You died to pay the penalty for my sins and that You rose from the grave. I invite You to come into my heart and become my Lord and Savior. I ask this in Your name. Amen."

Doesn't that now make me a Christian?

What else do I have to do to be a Christian?

I am so confused!

I was in bed this morning thinking about this whole issue of forgiving my abusers and wondering where I could start. I then realised that I was very frightened of remembering the deeds that were done to me. Does that make sense to you? For so long I have tried to 'forget' what happened and now suddenly, I am being advised to remember what happened so that I can forgive. THAT IS JUST SO DIFFICULT!!!!! I am very frightened of opening up 'a can of worms' by remembering the past.

That is not however the same as saying that I don't want to forgive. It is just a fear of having to remember and deal with things that should never have happened to any human being.

God, I believe, is commanding me to forgive. My problem is facing the fear of remembering the deeds that were done to me in order that I can then forgive my abusers.

I really hope that that makes sense to you.



Please, please, please don't give up on me just because this is so difficult for me.
 
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Sadeyes, once you have given your life and believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and said the prayer, you are a Christian.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1Jo 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

You are accepting and believing that Jesus is your saviour, now comes the part of fellowship with Jesus and God.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Forgiving can take time. Not all of us are the same, some of us can forgive quicker than others, but the deeper the relationship you have with the Father and our Lord, the more you will trust Him, and believe in His Word, and you will forgive all those people that have been hurtful in your life.

You are a young Christian, the old has now passed and you are a new person now, but of course, all our old life, still comes to our mind from time to time, just deal with it at a bit at a time.

I think you are taking on far too much, your heath, rejection and forgiving. These are major things to deal with. Just walk slowly with God, He won't run away from you, talk to Him like a friend and ask Him to guide you at His pace, and not at this world's pace. It's important to know, He won't run away.

He will never leave you, just remember that.

Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

See He promises to be there. :love:
 
"I think you are taking on far too much" - thank you Word of Life for saying that. So do I!!!!!!!!

The past 3 weeks have been a whirlwind of trying to find out what I am meant to be doing. Don't get me wrong. I am grateful to everybody who has taken the time to pray for me or to post, but it is all so overwhelming.

I just feel that I am in sinking sand, sinking with all the things that I should be understanding and doing and struggling to keep my head above the sand!!!

I really do not know what I should be doing. All I know is that it took all my life to get to this point, so quite simply, unless I have one of those amazing miracles from God, then it is going to take more than 3 weeks to change my life to being the way God would want it to be.

The bottom line is that I want to love, obey and serve God and to be the person that he would want me to be. So many people on this forum have described how wonderful it is to do this. What I don't want to do is to lose the hope that I got when I read the Father's love letter.

I hope that this makes sense to you!

:love:
 
As I have been thinking about this, one question has come into my head which I hope that somebody will be able to answer for me.

My father severely abused me from the time that I was born until he died.

As he is dead, do I still need to forgive him or does death put a barrier between the wronged person and the person who has done the wrong?

In other words, can unforgiveness towards a dead person still have power over a living person?
><> ><> Do it ----for you. Or the chains are still on you.It'll release you both.
 
Thanks for the advice. I am trying to take it on board, but it is going to take time.

:love:
 
can unforgiveness towards a dead person still have power over a living person?
A big YES to that question as I have been there sister. It really does release you and set you so free when you can choose to forgive others for wrongs against you. My parents had died when I was undergoing counselling and needed to forgive them.

God bless you

Love in Christ :love: :rainbow: :rose:
 
Sadeyes, you won't be alone when the memories come flooding back to you.

You will have Someone with you. If God wills, the flashbacks will come (memories that your mind obscured or clouded). But you will have a guide and your best friend with you: Jesus.

You can handle it, knowing that Jesus is with you. He would never take you anywhere that you couldn't handle. Sometimes it seems like more than you can bear, but He promises in His Word that He will never give you more than you can bear.

I have dealt with flashbacks, and although they can be a little shocking at first, God can help you absorb the memory quickly and help you to adjust to it.

Some of my years at home as a child are still blocked out. This is God's grace.
Some memories He did bring back to me. And the memories did not all come back necessarily in one day.

God has a special timing involved just specifically for YOU. He loves you so very much. You are the apple of His eye. His little girl. His darling.

Before I forgave my parents and grandma, I had several flashbacks the day before. And to be honest; I cried, it was very painful. But God was there. It's like He was saying that He was there; He knows it's true, and He's so sorry that it happened.

Later on, years later in fact, I had another flashback of one event. Oddly enough, I was taking my family's clothes out of the dryer when a near-drowning event passed before my eyes. It was like I was 4 years old again.
I even saw my dad coming and heard him yelling at me after the lifeguard saved me and pushed the water out of my lungs. There was vomit everywhere in the water where I'd thrown up the sno-cone.

My dad yelled and yelled and wasn't even happy that the lifeguard had saved my life.

But....you see....God was there even when I was an itty-bitty little girl, sadeyes. You see, God was watching me in the lake, even if my father wasn't. He moved in the lifeguard and quickly came to my rescue, because God had plans for me and wanted me to live.

Just the fact that you are saved and have accepted God's salvation is the most wonderful thing!

Don't worry so much about the forgiveness, as the fact that you are saved now.

God will bring the forgiveness to you. He knows you can do only so much at one time. You don't have to forgive the whole "kit and caboodle" all at once in one day, sweetie.

Just take one day at a time.

love,
Dreamer
 
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