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Example of False Prophets

monkeys

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I wanted to post this because of a post that someone else had posted.

Anyway...this is rather dear to my heart because my parents are affected by this greatly.

I got permission by Chad on March 9th, 2007 at 7:19 A.M. to post this link:


YouTube - Benny Hinn examined

It is about a man that even my grandmother sends money to often. My parents go to his crusades thinking that God will heal them. I know that they may get healed because they have faith in God.

But I feel so torn, I want to show these things to them. But I fear that this will only make them think I am silly, and think that the devil is trying to keep me from this. So for now, I can just pray.

If you could, please just look at the video. It's a little bit long (40 minutes), but it is really worth it.

Bless you brothers and sisters,
monkeys
 
Hello monkeys. I used to watch Benny Hinn every morning and saw lots of people get healed. He seemed to have the anointing on him. He always says he is a vessel that God works through. I know when he visits places people queue to get in and those outside even got touched and healed.

Someone recently testified to receiving healing in our Church. She attended a meeting when he came to London.

I will watch the video at a time of day when it is off peak hours for me. I have a limit of how much I can use in peak rate times like now.

I did not know he was on you tube. I thought that used secular music.

God bless you sister. :love: :rainbow: :rose:
 
Hi LadyLovesJesus,

Yes, I too watched Benny Hinn. I think there was a time when his ministry was truly genuine, 100%. However...I'm not too sure about that now.

I think the people that got healed are because of their faith in God.

About people being slain in the Spirit, satan could have his hand on that. People may think that it's God and it really isn't.

There is so much more information that I've found on Benny Hinn through research. But this video was really wonderful.

Looking forward to your response!

May God bless you also sister! :love:
 
Hi LadyLovesJesus,

Yes, I too watched Benny Hinn. I think there was a time when his ministry was truly genuine, 100%. However...I'm not too sure about that now.

I think the people that got healed are because of their faith in God.

About people being slain in the Spirit, satan could have his hand on that. People may think that it's God and it really isn't.

There is so much more information that I've found on Benny Hinn through research. But this video was really wonderful.

Looking forward to your response!

May God bless you also sister! :love:
Oh Yes, people do get slain in the spirit by the devil because when my church visit another church one day and I know my pastor was laying hands and people was bring slain and God was moving and all insudden the pastor of that church stop my Pastor from doing what the spirit was leading him and all the people when sit down and then the pastor of that church was laying hands on people and some look so scared and and there this one member of my church was slain by that pastor and she said that she never felt like that before and she said she was scared and then that pastor pray for my pastor and something was not right and the pastor of that church never came to my pastor and talk to him it was bad and when we left the church right away and we all had to stop and I saw my pastor coming out from the car and he did not felt right he was kinda crying and he felt sick like sick and that pastor who was parying over my pastor is of the devil we all had to get back in are church back home which it was like 15 min away from are city to another so we was visiting another community and we came to are church like maybe close to 12 in the morning and we was talking about it and was concern what was in us and so we all had to rebuke everything and i was slain in the spirit and I guest I felt much better then I was stepping in that other church but my pastor said he dose not want to go through that no more from fellowshiping in another church or visisting and we have to becareful from false prophets and the hold time when my pastor was preaching in there, the other pastor was giving my pastor a evil look
 
Well that's a tough one. I looked at the first part of the video and that was enough for me really. I wouldn't be comfortable with my nearest and dearest giving Benny Hinn their support. I especially didn't like the way he pushed people over on stage.

It may not be wise to get too confrontational about this though. It's all too easy to get into a destructive argument, and you are likely to put distance between yourself and your family.

So feel free to voice your concerns, but avoid putting Benny Hinn down. Instead encourage positive things. Remind your parents that God does heal and his power is not dependent on anything or anyone else (B.H. included).

And as for donations, the Bible persistently tells us to give to the poor. If your grandmother gives money to the needy, she can be absolutely sure that she is doing God's will. Surely that's a good starting point for receiving a blessing.

In short, encourage the good rather than cut down the bad.

With prayers
 
Thank you Stylz and Kenwyn for your replies. It really helped me a lot.

Stylz --- I can't believe what happened with your church. It's so amazing how the enemy disguises himself. I'm glad that your Pastor was aware of this and the situation was corrected!

Kenwyn --- I completely agree with what you are saying. The thing is, they don't realize that they are like this. They know that God is healing them, but they feel that it is only in that one place.

If God was to heal my father of back pains, then why would it come back? If God was to have healed my aunt from her muscle pains, then why can't she get up?

I suppose I could try by letting them know that God is everywhere and they don't have to go to Benny Hinn. I think it's important that I get this message out sooner than later. God has put this on my heart and I shouldn't ignore it.

Thank you for your advice!

May God Bless you richly!

Many Blessings,
monkeys
 
Here is something to think about: It is a transcript taken from another site I visit regularly.

Transcribed From Trinity Broadcasting Networks Praise The Lord Show.

Benny Hinn: "Adam was a superbeing when God created Him. I don't know whether people even know this, but he was the first superman that ever lived. (Jan Crouch is heard laughing on the set.) First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea, which means he used to fly."
Jan Crouch: "Wow!"
Benny Hinn: "Of course, how can you have dominion over the birds and not be able to do what they do?"
Jan Crouch: "Whoa, I mean, wait a minute. Benny, wait a minute."
Benny Hinn: "I'll prove it to you. The word 'dominion' in the Hebrew clearly declares that, if you have dominion over a subject, you can do everything that subject does. In other words, that subject, if it does something that you cannot do, you don't have dominion over it. I'll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to space. He used to be...He,He,He,He,He,He... with one thought He'd be on the moon."

Benny Hinn may have uttered this complete nonsense, content with the knowledge that his listeners did not even know their Bibles, not to mention know how to do a word study using Strongs and other study resources. Let us review Strong's Concordance on the Hebrew meaning of the word, 'dominion', found in Genesis 1:26.

Dominion -- Strong's Number 7287 -- Transliteration: radah -- Phonetic Pronunciation: raw-daw'

Meaning: to rule, have dominion, dominate, tread down -- 1a) (Qal) to have dominion, rule, subjugate -- 1b) (Hiphil) to cause to dominate -- 2) to scrape out as honey out of a hive --2a) (Qal) to scrape, scrape out

The ways in which this word is used in the Bible: rule 13 -- dominion 9 -- take 2 -- prevaileth 1 -- reign 1 -- ruler 1 -- [Total Count: 27]

Now, let us turn to the Key Word Hebrew/Greek Study Bible. Listen to what they say about the meaning of "dominion -- radah: To tread down as a winepress, with the feet; to subdue, subjugate, to crumble, oppress, to walk on a person, to rule, cause to rule, to prevail against, to take possession of honey from a hive, to scrape out. [Page 1659]

Can you see any definition of "radah" that suggests that the person exercising the control over the birds "can do everything that subject does"? What sheer nonsense Benny Hinn is shoveling out to his gullible crowd of followers! He pretends to know Hebrew just because he claims to be Jewish. That is about as logical as a person claiming to speak German just because he is of German descent.

Adam Was A Reproduction of God Himself?

Copeland: "God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself and in the Garden of Eden, He did that, He was not a little like God, He was not almost like God, he was subordinate to God, even. And Adam was as much like God as you can get ... And I want you to know something. Adam in the Garden of Eden was Cod manifested In the flesh."

Once again, this "new revelation" is sheer nonsense, and totally unbiblical! God simply said, "Let us make man in our image..." [Genesis 1:26] This word, "image" is "tselem", which literally means likeness, resemblance, illusion, a phantom, nothingness." {Key Study Bible, Hebrew/Greek, p. 1653]

In other words, God made man as a faint phantom of His true Self. While God granted unto man the intellectual ability to know right from wrong and to solve problems, He never made man exactly like He was; man was never, ever a "little god", and never, ever a "reproduction" of God.
 
Zulu,

Thank you for your post. It justifies what I have said even more. I am so worried about telling my family, but the Lord has really put this burden in my heart and I've decided to talk to them about it through a Bible Study.

I know that God is putting this urgency in my heart for a reason, and I can no longer ignore it.

Many Blessings,
monkeys
 
Monkeys

I watched the video today and was disappointed to see what that man is doing.

I also found more information on the internet about him. This one: Benny Hinn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and this one: Benny Hinn: Quotes, False Teachings, False Prophet

I typed his name in google search and some different sites came up and they were just two that I looked at to find out some more information. If people cannot view the videos they can read about him on these sites.

I am saddened to see that he is a false prophet and not allowing those who show signs of being handicapped from getting anywhere near him.

I am glad I stopped watching his programmes now.

Jesus is the one who heals and does miracles today.

God bless you dear sister :love: :rainbow: :rose:
 
Thank you for your reply LLJ and thank you for the additional information.

I am so relieved that I was able to share this with my brothers and sister here! This has been bothering me for a quite a while.

I think the Lord used this as an opportunity to show me what to do and how to do it.

All the advice that everyone has given me and the feedback has been wonderful! I will definitely be referring to this post when I am making my power point presentation!

Many Blessings to you all!

Love,
monkeys
 
Thank you Stylz and Kenwyn for your replies. It really helped me a lot.

Stylz --- I can't believe what happened with your church. It's so amazing how the enemy disguises himself. I'm glad that your Pastor was aware of this and the situation was corrected!

Kenwyn --- I completely agree with what you are saying. The thing is, they don't realize that they are like this. They know that God is healing them, but they feel that it is only in that one place.

If God was to heal my father of back pains, then why would it come back? If God was to have healed my aunt from her muscle pains, then why can't she get up?

I suppose I could try by letting them know that God is everywhere and they don't have to go to Benny Hinn. I think it's important that I get this message out sooner than later. God has put this on my heart and I shouldn't ignore it.

Thank you for your advice!

May God Bless you richly!

Many Blessings,
monkeys
We did saw him yesterday at a church ball game but to bad my church team lost but there church was there and that pastor was the player why'll my pastor is the MC was at the game and I did not see both of my pastor and him talk or greeting:embarasse But when I see his face I be like I'm not going to have nothing to do with it. And one thing I have to ponit out, I have always knew that Benny Hin was not a real prophet but looking at the video was a bigger pic
 
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I wanted to post this because of a post that someone else had posted.

Anyway...this is rather dear to my heart because my parents are affected by this greatly.

I got permission by Chad on March 9th, 2007 at 7:19 A.M. to post this link:


YouTube - Benny Hinn examined

It is about a man that even my grandmother sends money to often. My parents go to his crusades thinking that God will heal them. I know that they may get healed because they have faith in God.

But I feel so torn, I want to show these things to them. But I fear that this will only make them think I am silly, and think that the devil is trying to keep me from this. So for now, I can just pray.

If you could, please just look at the video. It's a little bit long (40 minutes), but it is really worth it.

Bless you brothers and sisters,
monkeys


I have not had the time to see the video....I must endeavour to do so. Meanwhile I would suggest to all that you draw back from your accusation of the Servant of God. Not that I know very much, but I have read his book 'Good morning Holy Spirit'. And I was encouraged in my Christian Walk reading such.

If in my life, had I blessed just a fraction of the folks this brother had blessed, I would rest in my bed....thanking God for the privilege

Please withdraw....Judgement of such men of God is not in your domain. Whatever your thoughts. Surely we can find other conversation?

What about Jesus? What have you to say today about the Master?
 
Stephen,

I am glad that you were blessed through his book. However, I was not judging Benny Hinn. I know that I am nobody to judge.

I was merely sharing some research that I had gathered about him, and I was sharing how that affected my family.

Blessings,
monkeys
 
While we know there are many false prophets, many prophets accused of being false and many genuine preachers, we must first seek the Word of GOD which exposes all lies by telling the Truth as told through the Holy Spirit inspired books.

Let's take a look and *meditate* on some Scripture here.

Judging Others

Matthew 7:1-5


1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

False Prophets

Mark 13:21-23

21At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ[a]!' or, 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it. 22For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible. 23So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.

Test the Spirits

1 John 4:1-3

1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Matthew 7:15-20

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
 
Dear Chad,

Thank you for this post. I really do not want anybody to feel as I have judge Benny Hinn.

Lord if I have judged Benny Hinn in my heart or on this forum Father or anywhere else, please forgive me Lord. I ask that you would forgive me and help me become worthy in your eyes.

I started this post because I am concerned for my family. If only I could put into words the excitement they have when Benny Hinn comes to town, it really worries me. It's almost as if they think it is Hinn who is healing them; not God.

Thank you all so much for your replies!

Many Blessings,
monkeys
 
I am quite shocked, I read your link LadylovesJesus. What he talks about sounds remarkably like the teachings of the Temple of Seth and the occult in general in disguise. Adam superhuman? Christians being little Gods? Jesus being a sinner? I had a bad feeling about him straight from the start. Its good to know for sure now. Traveling through space by power of thought sounds very much like Astral Travel. I dont like what Im seeing here at all! I may be jumping the gun here, but I think it would be wise to stay very far away from him.

Regards
H.Soma
 
i am not saying that people who have been blessed by the Holy Ghost to heal people are fake or wrong. It is a gift of God that they are able to do so. Where i believe they are wrong, is to televise and broadcast to the world that they have this gift of God. Jesus Christ as our perfect example, NEVER did this. He made it quite clear many times, go and do not tell people i have done this for you. Those who have the gift of healing, should not televise it or broadcast it, this is not what Jesus did. No matter the reasoning for it, how many people are helped, how many people gained faith because of it, it is still bottom line, NOT how Jesus nor any of the Apostle ever did it.

^i^
 
Years ago, (I'm talking decades), I watched Benny Hinn on TV (once). Something he said (I don't even remember what it was) did not ring true. The Holy Spirit within me had me take notice. And Benny said something else that also was not in line with scripture. I purposed that day to never watch him (Benny Hinn) again. If he comes on, I change the channel.
 
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