Christ's Resurrection

[Bethel]

Jesus said he was laying down, surrendering his LIFE, not just the physical body.
If you want to take it another way- be my guest.

You mean like you have?

Listen, to surrender your life, does not necessarily mean, you die.
For example, lets say you go to prison.
You just surrendered your life for some years.
Do you understand? See it?
So, when Jesus said "not my will but your's Father"......that is surrendering His Life.

When a person says....>"Father what would you have me do".
See that? That is surrendering your life.

So, your issue, is that you have tunnel vision, and a small perspective.
You can only think about this "surrender" according to your need to refuse to see a broader perspective.

 

[Brother Paul]

You mean like you have?

Listen, to surrender your life, does not necessarily mean, you die.
For example, lets say you go to prison.
You just surrendered your life for some years.
Do you understand? See it?
So, when Jesus said "not my will but your's Father"......that is surrendering His Life.

When a person says....>"Father what would you have me do".
See that? That is surrendering your life.

So, your issue, is that you have tunnel vision, and a small perspective.
You can only think about this "surrender" according to your need to refuse to see a broader perspective.

Amen

 

[Samson2020]

Listen, to surrender your life, does not necessarily mean, you die.
For example, lets say you go to prison.
You just surrendered your life for some years.
Do you understand? See it?
So, when Jesus said "not my will but your's Father"......that is surrendering His Life.

When a person says....>"Father what would you have me do".
See that? That is surrendering your life.

So, your issue, is that you have tunnel vision, and a small perspective.
You can only think about this "surrender" according to your need to refuse to see a broader perspective.

Point taken.
But, did Jesus die according to your understanding?

 

[QuestionIt]

You mean like you have?

Listen, to surrender your life, does not necessarily mean, you die.
For example, lets say you go to prison.
You just surrendered your life for some years.
Do you understand? See it?
So, when Jesus said "not my will but your's Father"......that is surrendering His Life.

When a person says....>"Father what would you have me do".
See that? That is surrendering your life.

So, your issue, is that you have tunnel vision, and a small perspective.
You can only think about this "surrender" according to your need to refuse to see a broader perspective.

That's only a figure of speech- and you KNOW it.
You deny what Jehovah said, and what Jesus said; and, no, he wasn't going to prison....

 

[QuestionIt]

No. I get your point. The bodies of all God's creatures are alive (bios subject to Chronos/.Time). But humans have an additional element (Ruah or spirit life), He had no sin and did not give up or stop being a spirit. Aeonian Zios (eternal life) continues. The spirit can not lay down (but the dead body does). And listen. I am good with agreeing to disagree. Life is a quality/quantity that is non-physical, but when people think of their life, when the body dies they take this to mean the end of life (but it is not). It is just the end of their temporal life. Again, the great uncountable multitude in John's vision had physically died yet were alive (Revelations 7).

I'm sorry you listen to anti-christian dogma. I guess I'm not "good' with the.
But we will ALL have to answer for ourselves.

 

[Brother Paul]

Point taken.
But, did Jesus die according to your understanding?

I know this was snot addressed to me but IMHO the man Christ Jesus did die on the cross, but not YHVH (the Son)

 

[Brother Paul]

I'm sorry you listen to anti-christian dogma. I guess I'm not "good' with the.
But we will ALL have to answer for ourselves.

have it YOUR way. As for me and my house we choose Yahweh.

 

[Samson2020]

I know this was snot addressed to me but IMHO the man Christ Jesus did die on the cross, but not YHVH (the Son)

I agree that the man did die, however; the spirit that cannot die left the body and went back to the Father. Then when the time was right God sent that spirit of Jesus back into
His body. We only would disagree about Jesus being God.
Father, "Into thy hands I commend my Spirit"

 

[rstrats]

I agree that the man did die, however; the spirit that cannot die left the body and went back to the Father.

To when do you think 1 Peter 3:18-19 is referring?

 

[Samson2020]

To when do you think 1 Peter 3:18-19 is referring?

No definite time frame mentioned. Could have been any time after His physical death.

 

[Beetow]

The passage below has been deliberately revised and misquoted. Watch for the
changes.

"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he
might bring us to God, being put to death as flesh but made alive as spirit, by
which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison,"

That's not actually how it's said in the Bible, but it is actually how some people's
minds understand it.

At the risk of being accused by the Truth Police of propagating misinformation: I
suggest Christ's spirit spoken of by 1Pet 3:18-19 is the self-same spirit spoken of
by Gen 6:3, which says:

"And the Lord said: My spirit shall not always strive with man"

God's spirit has typically always spoken to the world by means of inspired men; so,
with that in mind, I suggest that HIs inspired man back in the days prior to the
Flood was, in fact, Noah.

"Noah . . . a preacher of righteousness"

NOTE: Men like Noah were inspired just as much by Christ's spirit as God's. (1Pet 1:11)
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