Has love conquered satan? Pls no spiritual mish mash of an answer, has the love of Christ turned satan into a christian?
the difference is that satan can not repent, as long as a human being is alive they can repent and there is hope for them
Has love conquered satan? Pls no spiritual mish mash of an answer, has the love of Christ turned satan into a christian?
I know right? I am reading a fantastic book right now called " Jesus Freaks" that tells stories of martyrs throughout history including the Apostles about people persecuted and killed for Jesus. Some of these people, including children were very brave and glad to die for Christ, for they felt it they had to live their lives without Him then it wasn't worth living. I feel the same way.I was just reading of similar examples given by you, in a book called tortured for Christ, amazing to see the true love Of saints, more worried about the people that are torturing them, then they are worried about being tortured,
I was saying that to point out that love doesnt conquer all. Would you say that it does?the difference is that satan can not repent, as long as a human being is alive they can repent and there is hope for them
I would say if that it does. Loving Satan will not conquer him but God's love for us will. If God comes to hate Satan for what he has done, it is only because He loved him first. All emotions stem from love whether directly or indirectly. Satan only hates us so much because of how much he loves himself.I was saying that to point out that love doesnt conquer all. Would you say that it does?
Not possible to always be able to show love to your neighbor but at least with His help, do unto them as you would want them to do unto you, and go the extra mile as the Lord leads if the neighbor is an enemy.I'm pretty sure most of us will say you have to love God/Jesus, but can you be a Christian without loving your neighbor?
When enemies sows discord between you & any one where ever you go... you can spare people the tactics & temptations of the enemy. That is showing love for your neighbor.Can you love your neighbor if you live as a recluse or hermit?
Luke 10:29-36
@B-A-C @DieAmartyr @Brad HuberI think B-A-C Love your Neighbor as you love yourself, so how much do we love ourselves??? LOL (Rom 12:3) Same way I look at everyone bro.
Good thing no matter what we think of ourselves, even when we were sinners, God loves us.
The point here is the example Jesus as God has set for loving others and we cannot do that by the flesh but by His grace & by His help as His love for others in us is the only way we can love others as we should. And when we find ourselves that we can't or unwilling, we can always go before that throne of grace and ask for help in times of need to love our enemies, even to forgive them from afar for they know not what they do " if " that is all the Lord is leading us to do.That's all fine and great, but the "Love" of God, is not the "Salvation" of God.
As you say, God loves even sinners (the un-saved).
Love for the Father and love for sinners to punish them to stop them from doing that, even if it was for a day. The whip was more like a rod for punishment than a weapon used to kill.To me love is very hard to define. Was it love when Jesus made a weapon of warfare? (John 2:15)
God was showing love for those around them as their secret was out that they had actually thought they could lie to God and not just to the new believers around them in what they were giving to charity. uch a lie could spread in that new community of 5,000 believers from the prior event in Acts 4 and serve as its undoing.Was it love which killed Ananias and Sapphira? (Acts 5:1-11)
Probably not so much as what was happening in Acts 4 & 5 One can look at backsliding Israel in the O.T. for why some harsh judgements were done and why in other cases judgments was delayed or deferred.Many after this have done the very same thing and they are not dead. SO? Is this fair? Is this loving?
To show Jesus healing the ear of one of His captors so that the night in question was not in doubt that Jesus allowed Him to be taken, but to leave no doubt that He was being taken by force.Was it love when Jesus allowed Peter to cut the ear off a soldier (John 18:10-11) Jesus knew Peter would do this, why did he not stop him before he did it? Now do not get me wrong!!
I can only hope in the Lord He helped me to answer those questions.I am not judging Jesus whatsoever!! BUT many who would be newcomers to the faith may just have the same questions, so how would you answer these people?
I believe the reason why Peter had asked John was because he was closest to Jesus to hear the answer quietly as to who would betray Him.To me there is one word which to me defines the word love, and that would be loyalty!!Being loyal no matter what beats out love to me, because love can change if one is not loyal as Jesus showed himself. Let's look at how the Lord defines love. (1 Cor 13:4-9)
The key for me about these verses lies in verse 9 We only know love in part, and that I really agree with! I cannot tell people I love them, because that would be a lie, I can tell them I love them in part. The part I believe I understand. I have much to learn about this subject. Growing up as a kid we were never allowed to hug or kiss anyone!
Dad would greet the people he somewhat cared for by nodding his head in acknowledgement but kept his space apart from them. Dad would say you really never know who you can actually trust in! And how often was Jesus himself ever touched by another? Only John!! (John 13:21-26) Notice Peter asked him, but it was only when John asked him did, he answer. WHY?? Anyway, I have wrestled with this all of my life. Even us old dogs in the faith know only in part!!
John 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: 15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; 16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.It was never said that Jesus used the whip, and I do not think he did, however people have died by the whip, so I believe Jesus was just showing how angry he had become at that sight.
I believe what those two were doing, others knew. So their idea that they can fool God in their giving is what required a strong measure to warn others they can't lie to God. Here is a new community of believers and this couple was not private about their disrespect towards God as if they can lie to the Holy Ghost about what they give. Obviously, God saw that they were not going to repent and called them home early to prevent that sin from tempting others.let's see next statement. You said God was showing his love for those around him. Humm that did not help the couple though!!! LOL
The prophet Jeremiah and Hosea used the term in regards to Israel. Link to search result for backsliding -------> Bible Gateway Search Result for BackslidingThat might be a stretch bro. But ok. Backsliding??? You're a Baptist, aren't you?? lol to me there is no such word, either you are a believer, or you are not a believer. There is no try with me, try never did anything. Hehe Not being mean bro!! Just having some fun with you is all. Backsliding, like Rapture is not mentioned. Now I know, you can show scripture to base your belief on!! I am just saying those words used by man are not in the Bible, one can make it fit their doctrine!! No question I found out much in my 69 years brother, much was not easy to swallow either!
We prophesy in part and know in part and so we are always leaning no matter how long we have been believers in Jesus Christ. When we are perfect by Him and seeing Him face to face, I believe we shall know all things.To me brother as I was taught by Holy Spirit himself, (1 John 2:27) Man made doctrine is just that, to me the Words of God says what it means and means what it says. Now others can sure not agree!! No Problem but as for me the Lord has always proved true to my life, and I am SO THANKFUL!! Indeed, we can only hope in the Lord that we answer through him!! Good one their brother!! Thanks for taking your time on some interesting answers!
I can learn something new any day and today in the Lord myself regarding seeing verse 2 f Isaiah 61:1-2 for the point of truth in this thread Jesus Was Not Baptized With the Holy Ghost At His Water Baptism for His MinistryWOW Bro!!!! I never saw that before backsliding in Jermiah!!!!!!!!!!
I understand the KJV just fine when I rely on the Lord for His wisdom in understanding His words. FYII use the New American Standard Version myself. So cool! When I first came to the Lord GodB4US I was given the K.J When I started reading from it to me it seemed to be for everyone but me lol, I told my Paster this version with all the thy, and thou shalt, I do not get it, Pastor said that is because you are simple (LOL )
I did use the NASB at one time, but the reason I rely on the KJV rather than the NASB, was that it did not have Jesus words in its entirety in this one reference.here take the NAS, I prayed to the Lord if this was an ok version,2 days later I had my bible on the porch, and it started to rain, just before I could pick it up, I kid you not!! Lighting struck my Bible!!! LOL, I said thanks Lord for blessing it!! LOL And so dear brother this Bible works for me. Thanks again for your interest!!