"Isn't it funny that those speaking of "election" speak as if they are of the elect?" Um, do not scoff at the idea that Christians know they are the elect, because scripture COMMANDS us to know. "Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God..." 1 Th 1:4 "Be diligent to make your calling and election sure.." 2 Pet 1:5-10 "Test yourself to see if you are in the faith..." 2nd Co 13:5 "I write to you so that you may know whether or not you truly believe.." 1 Jhn 5:13 Please do not scoff and mock and make fun of your fellow believers because they are obeying the Bible... Paul explicitly tells us that the saved are the elect. Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Rom 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 2Ti 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. So, to answer your question: "Isn't it funny that those speaking of "election" speak as if they are of the elect?" NO, it is NOT FUNNY to assume you are of the elect. I am sick to my stomach that you'd have such an attitude.