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Blasphemous Thoughts - A Testimony - Part 1

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  1. #1 Peace Seeker, Jan 1, 2012
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    I am posting this testimony of the spiritual battle I have been in, because I have noticed that some people are concerned about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I don't know if anyone would even be interested in my testimony on this, because for one thing it will probably end up being too long to sit and read all the way through. But in case you are interested, I will be telling of my experiences with the hope that it will help you to cope with and have victory over it, without all the trial and error I went through.

    Chad has some excellent posts on the subject and they do a great job of explaining what it is and isn't, but they don't elaborate on the tactics of the devil relating to the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and how to overcome the attacks.

    So what follows here is my personal, real-life account of an 8 week war (and counting?) with the devil and his attempts to :

    1) make me believe I have committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit 2) make me doubt my salvation 3) make me doubt God's love for me 4) make me feel guilty beyond hope 5) make me believe his thoughts WERE MY THOUGHTS 6) make me lose my sanity

    Throughout this ordeal God has been revealing scriptures to me, among the many others things that have happened, and the one that stands out is :

    2 Corinthians 1:3-7 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort.

    It is my fervent hope that all who read this and can relate to it, will take comfort in this post, like the God of all comfort has given so abundantly to me!!

    So here it is now, my testimony :

    For the last 8 weeks I have had continuous attacks from satan, who has been trying to put filthy, blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Spirit into my mind. They are the most vile and horrifying thoughts you could possibly imagine. At the beginning they absolutely horrified me and caused me no end of distress, to put it mildly!

    And last but not least, he was trying his absolute best to convince me that all those thoughts WERE MY THOUGHTS, because he knows how much torment that can cause to a believer in Christ.

    Here is what I have discovered through 8 weeks of doing spiritual warfare with satan : he is able to plant thoughts in your head that are indistinguishable from your own! Not only that, he is able to literally finish sentences for you!

    [FONT=&quot]I discovered that the enemy’s thoughts blend in with my own[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. At first I was unable to tell where my thoughts ended and Satan’s began. In a split second he can finish my own thought with a swear word.[/FONT]

    These thoughts made me feel for sure that I did the unpardonable sin and was now therefore totally lost, un-redeemable and without hope for salvation..

    Now, before I continue, I want everyone to know that what I have been going through is not at all uncommon. We read in

    1 Corinthians 10:13 :
    New International Version (NIV)

    13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

    And perhaps some think what is meant here is that we all have temptations about similar mundane things, like our finances, marriage struggles, losing our job, health problems, etc. But unless you have experienced a barrage of blasphemous thoughts from satan, you would not believe the above verse applies to that kind of situation.

    After all, you would suppose, what kind of Christian would have thoughts like that? Thoughts so horrible that I wouldn't repeat them if I could. Thoughts that could seemingly only come from the most reprobate and evil mind.

    That's what satan was trying desperately to make me believe, that this thing was only happening to ME, that it couldn't POSSIBLY happen to a "real" Christian.

    He was working overtime to make me believe that no one was as horrible as me, because anyone thinking such thoughts must be the worst person on the face of the earth. And did I really believe a Christian could be having thoughts such as these? Therefore I mustn't be a Christian.

    These are some of the things I had to battle and that initially tormented me so much.

    [FONT=&quot]And just to clarify, the evil thoughts weren't conscious decisions I just made out of the blue to purposely insult, grieve, malign or blaspheme God, etc. [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I then, as I do now, have no desire whatsoever to say, think or do anything negative towards God, towards anyone in the Godhead. The wicked thoughts that came into my mind were VERY FAST AND RANDOM - unexpected , unplanned, etc. And as fast as I could possibly do so, I would stop the thought and take it into captivity in obedience to[/FONT]
    2 Corinthians 10:4-6:
    For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.[FONT=&quot]

    [FONT=&quot]At the beginning, when the thought attacks first started, I was so frightened, because as a Christian I knew that having a horrible thought against the Holy Spirit would never be forgiven, and is in fact the only one mentioned in the bible as not being forgiven.

    In[FONT=&quot] fact I would literally shriek inside with horror and like I said earlier, be extremely grieved, upset, and mortified at such thoughts. [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Again I say, they were incredibly quick flashes of horrible thoughts, directed at the Holy Spirit. I did not sit there and say to myself anything remotely along the lines of : " I hate God, so I think I'll have some fun and do some blaspheming", if you know what I mean. [/FONT]
    I am now going to give you just a little info about how I was attempting to stop the attacks, why that failed miserably, and what I finally figured out after listening to God and doing it His way.

    If you ever find yourself , or know of someone else in the situation I was in, you will know what to do and it will save you a lot of ongoing torment.

    Because I hated those thoughts I did my very best to stop them in their tracks as soon as I could - casting down imaginations, taking every thought into captivity, etc.
    I rebuked satan in Jesus' name many times, I bound satan in Jesus' name many times, I listened to praise music all day long, etc.

    But the attacks kept coming at me, over and over. It was hard to sleep, hard to function in the day and very distracting from serving and looking solely upon the Lord, which is what I wanted to do.

    THIS IS IMPORTANT : The reason my efforts to stop the attacks didn't work was because I was trying to fight a spiritual battle with my FLESH.

    Not only that, but because of the way the human mind works, the act of trying to stop a thought, or not remember it or think of it, GUARANTEES you will do it!! Our natural reaction would be to try and stop and silence the thought. Trust me, no one would want such thoughts in their head about their mother, never mind God in the person of The Holy Spirit!!!

    But I repeat, if you are having those thought attacks, you will heap even more misery upon yourself by trying to combat them by simply sheer force of will. [FONT=&quot]The goal must never be the avoidance of blasphemous thoughts[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The harder we try to avoid them, the worse they will get[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT]
    The only way to combat them is by doing hardcore spiritual battle.

    Ephesians 6:11-18 11
    Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
    14 Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming missiles of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit...

    Taking up the shield of faith and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, is CRUCIAL. You need to fight spirit by Spirit. There are numerous bible verses that tell us who we are in Christ, what we can expect from Him, etc. And we must wield these passages like a sword in order to defeat the enemy.

    Jesus stopped satan's attacks against Him in the wilderness by QUOTING SCRIPTURE. We must do the same.

    The word of God - the sword of the Spirit - tells us in

    Philippians 4:7

    [FONT=&quot]The peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Amen!

    Believing in and using verses like this one is one of the weapons you need. Satan cannot overpower your mind, no matter how convincing he is to the contrary!! And make no mistake, he is very convincing!!
    If satan seems to be overpowering your mind, you must pray and believe that God WILL guard it. He cannot lie.

    [FONT=&quot]2 Timothy 4:18[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]18[/FONT][FONT=&quot] And the Lord will deliver me from [/FONT][FONT=&quot]every evil work [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. To Him be glory forever and ever. Amen![/FONT]

    If being bombarded by a howitzer of blasphemous thoughts is not AN EVIL WORK, I don't know what is!!!

    Therefore, this scripture assures us that the Lord will deliver us from EVERY evil work. Trusting in God and His incredible power and love for you is essential to gaining the victory that Christ has given you.

    More spiritual battle verses :

    [FONT=&quot]Psalms 46:1[/FONT][FONT=&quot]God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Proverbs 18:10 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The name of the lord is a strong tower, the righteous run into it and the are safe[/FONT][FONT=&quot]" [/FONT]

    Joshua1:9 Be strong of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.

    Colossians 2:15New International Version (NIV)

    15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

    We must keep our eyes on Jesus at all times, and not let satan's thoughts distract us and distress us. When Peter took his eyes off the Lord and instead looked at the waves for a brief second, he started to lose faith and sink into the sea that he had moments before been walking on.

    [FONT=&quot]No matter what scary distractions the devil throws at you, keep your focus on Jesus[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Unwanted thoughts are simply a form of temptation, and all Christians are tempted.[/FONT]

    Calmly address the devil, saying something like, “In the name of Jesus I rebuke you. No matter what lies and filth you put into my head, Jesus defeated you and I belong to Jesus, and in Him there is no condemnation in me..”

    Romans 8:1New International Version (NIV)

    Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

    1 Corinthians 15:57
    But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Psalm 27:1
    [FONT=&quot]1[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?[/FONT]

    Romans 8:37-39
    [FONT=&quot]37[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Nay, in all these things [/FONT][FONT=&quot]we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]38[/FONT][FONT=&quot]For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,[/FONT][FONT=&quot]39[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord[/FONT].

    I will leave it that regarding scriptures. There are so many more, the point of which is, we have nothing to fear from unwanted blasphemous attacks.

    We must stubbornly resist the pressure to surrender to the enemy's lies, whether it be false condemnation or believing that we are responsible for thoughts we do not want.

    [FONT=&quot]Don’t waste your resources getting sidetracked into self-examination or fighting thoughts or feelings[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. No matter how real and scary they seem, they are just cardboard cut-outs.[/FONT]

    The plan of the devil with these thoughts is to try to sabotage our relationship with God. He wants us so fixated on trying to fight unwanted blasphemous thoughts and so foolishly convinced that they render us repulsive to God, that we misinterpret our Lord’s every expression of love for us.

    [FONT=&quot]The devil wants us to push God away through being duped into wrongly supposing that ugly thoughts render us unacceptable to the God who is head over heels in love with us.

    [FONT=&quot]Unwanted thoughts, no matter how repulsive, are merely pesky flies that refuse to be shooed away[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. [/FONT]

    So in summary, satan putting blasphemous thoughts into the minds of Christians is not unusual or uncommon.

    We must recognize that no negative thought is from God. They are a deception from the father of lies, who is a murderer, thief and destroyer.

    We must focus on JESUS, not satan or his attacks. NO MATTER WHAT, focus on Jesus and never forget that He will never forsake you or let the enemy harm you. Jesus is the Good Shepherd who lays down His life for His sheep. No wolf or roaring lion will take you out of His hands!!!

    Jesus has defeated satan and overcome the world. All authority is given to Him in heaven and earth. What can satan do to you? What can HIS thoughts do to you? He is a weak and defeated enemy that plays on our insecurities and weaknesses, but ultimately is a paper tiger doing shadow puppets on the wall to try and scare us.

    I was in utter turmoil when the thoughts first started, because I had never experienced them before. And as I said, they are SO REAL and so INDISTINGUISHABLE from your own.

    But I am telling you this testimony so you don't have to have any turmoil if it happens to YOU. You will know what it is that is happening to you, why it is, and what you can do about it. Just ignore the devil, for it makes his day when he gets to you and causes you grief.
    Resist him and he will FLEE.

    In part 2 I will talk about some great Christians that have gone through the very thing I have talked about. And if you ever get these attacks, know that you will be in some great company!! :wink:

    [FONT=&quot]Thank you to [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot] for some excerpts and other writings on the subject.

    here's their disclaimer :
    [FONT=&quot]Not to be sold. © Copyright, 2004, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Grantley Morris[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. Not to be copied in whole or in part without citing this entire paragraph. Many more compassionate, inspiring, sometimes hilarious writings by [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Grantley Morris[/FONT][FONT=&quot] available free at the following internet site [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot] Freely you have received, freely give.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

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  2. PeaceSeeker, thank you for sharing your troubles and victory. May the peace of God rule in your heart.

    Your Brother,

  3. #3 Peace Seeker, Jan 1, 2012
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    Blasphemous Thoughts - A Testimony - Part 2 of 2

    How many of you would be surprised to know that some well-known "lions of the faith", such as C. H. Spurgeon, John Bunyon and others have confessed to horrible blasphemous thoughts?

    Here are some excerpts, showing how any Christian, whether of small or large stature, can be attacked by satan in this way.

    C. H. Spurgeon Confessed To Blasphemous Thoughts :
    Helpful Bible Insights When Our Minds Fill With Blasphemy

    Six thousand people used to cram into his Baptist church in London, England to hear Charles Haddon Spurgeon (1834-1892) preach. The man regularly acclaimed as “The Prince of Preachers” is even today highly revered and widely read. The following is from Charles Spurgeon’s book, All of Grace.

    Here’s what he has to tell the countless thousands of Christians who, like him, find themselves thinking blasphemous thoughts they want nothing to do with (some highlights):

    I have heard someone say, “I am tormented with horrible thoughts. Wherever I go, blasphemies steal in upon me. Frequently at my work a dreadful suggestion forces itself upon me, and even on my bed I am startled from my sleep by whispers of the evil one. I cannot get away from this horrible temptation.”

    Friend, I know what you mean, for I have myself been hunted by this wolf. A man might as well hope to fight a swarm of flies with a sword as to master his own thoughts when they are set on by the devil.

    Remember Martin Luther’s way of cutting the devil’s head off with his own sword. “Oh,” said the devil to Martin Luther, “you are a sinner.” “Yes,” said he, “Christ died to save sinners.” Thus he smote him with his own sword. Hide in this refuge, and remain there: “In due time Christ died for the ungodly.” If you stand to that truth, your blasphemous thoughts which you have no strength to drive away will go away of themselves; for Satan will see that he is answering no purpose by plaguing you with them.

    These thoughts, if you hate them, are none of yours, but are injections of the Devil, for which he is responsible, and not you. If you strive against them, they are no more yours than are the cursings and falsehoods of rioters in the street.

    Jesus died for those who are guilty of “all manner of sin and blasphemy,” and I am therefore certain He will not refuse those who are unwillingly the captives of evil thoughts. Cast yourself upon Him, thoughts and all, and see if He is not mighty to save. He can still those horrible whisperings of the fiend, or He can enable you to see them in their true light, so that you may not be worried by them. In His own way He can and will save you, and at length give you perfect peace. Only trust Him for this and everything else.

    As C. H. Spurgeon brilliantly implied, we might as well try to fight off a swarm of attacking bees with a sword than try to stop blasphemous thoughts from swarming in our minds. So fiercely does Satan hate every friend of God that he will only cease his attack when he is certain that we have seen through his devilish trick so completely that we are no longer tormented by it.

    This will happen when we become convinced that although they are in our own head, the thoughts we hate are no more our responsibility than we are responsible for total strangers cursing God. Unwelcome blasphemies can do us no more harm than we would get thrown in jail for the crimes of Saddam Hussein. Yes, fallible human justice systems have sometimes caused the wrong person to be punished for a crime, but the Judge of all the world in perfect.

    The Devil is like a tease. The more he sees that something is annoying you, the more he will keep it up. If he sees you unconcerned, however, he will lose interest in that method of attack.

    And, as Charles Spurgeon and other devout Christians and Bible scholars affirm, you have every right to be unconcerned.

    Moreover, if his every attempt to get us to blaspheme God ends in us praising and exalting God, the Devil is a loser. We cannot stop the Devil from shouting in our minds, but he is equally powerless to stop us from honoring and praising God.

    Every time a blasphemous thought comes, use it as a reminder to immediately exalt the Lord by saying such things as:

    Lord, you are good and do good. You are pure and holy; perfect in all your ways. You are worthy of all honor and praise. You are wise, generous, patient, kind, loving and forgiving. On the cross the Holy Son of God swapped places with me. You have removed my sin and given me Christ’s sinlessness. I am now “in Christ,” completely covered by his holiness, perfection and spiritual beauty. I praise you for being all-knowing. You know that the lies shouting in my head are not mine. My real thoughts are the opposite. I love you. I praise you. I adore you. I delight in you.

    John Bunyan’s Battle with Blasphemous Thoughts,
    Feeling Unforgivable, Reprobate and Demon Possessed

    Condensed extracts in modern English from John Bunyan’s book, Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners

    John Bunyan (1628-1688) was an English preacher who is now renowned as the author of the profoundly influential Christian book The Pilgrim’s Progress. The book has been translated into more than a hundred different languages and has sold more copies in more languages than any Christian book besides the Bible and more than any book of any description originally written in English.

    Sin and corruption would as naturally bubble out of my heart as water would bubble out of a fountain. I thought that everyone had a better heart than I had. I would have exchanged hearts with anybody.
    I thought no one but the devil himself could equal me for inward wickedness and pollution of mind. I concluded that this condition that I was in could not stand with a state of grace. Thought I, “Surely I am forsaken of God. Surely I am given up to the devil and a reprobate mind.”

    First, all my comfort was taken from me; then darkness seized me; after which whole floods of blasphemies, both against God, Christ, and the Scriptures, were poured upon my spirit, to my great confusion and astonishment.
    They did so overweigh my heart both with their number, continuance and fiery force that I felt as if there were nothing else but these from morning to night within me, and as though indeed there could be room for nothing else. I also concluded that God had, in wrath to my soul, given me up to them, to be carried away with them as with a mighty whirlwind.
    Only by the distaste they gave to my spirit did I feel there was something in me that refused to embrace them.

    While I was in this torment, I often found in my mind a sudden urge to curse and swear, or to speak some grievous thing against God, Christ His Son, or of the Scriptures. Now I thought, surely I am possessed of the devil. At other times, I thought I would lose my mind; for instead of praising and magnifying the Lord with others, if I but heard Him spoken of, presently some most horrible blasphemous thought or other would bolt out of my heart against Him. I concluded that such things could not possibly be found among those who loved God.

    In these days, when I heard others talk of what the sin against the Holy Spirit was, then the tempter would so provoke me to desire to sin that particular sin that it was as if I could not, must not, neither would be quiet until I had committed it. Now no sin would serve but that one. If it were to be committed by the speaking of such a word, then it was if my mouth would have spoken that word, whether I would or not. In so strong a measure was this temptation upon me that often I have been ready to clap my hands under my chin to hold my mouth from opening.

    Yes, gladly I would have been in the condition of a dog or horse, for I knew they had no soul to perish under the everlasting weight of hell or sin was mine as likely to do.

    I could attend to none of the ordinances of God but with sore and great affliction; then I was most distressed with blasphemies. If I had been hearing the word of God, then uncleanness, blasphemies, and despair would hold me a captive there. If I was reading then sometimes I had sudden thoughts to question all I read.

    Oh, the diligence of Satan! Oh, the desperateness of man’s heart! Now was the battle won, and down I fell, as a bird that is shot from the top of a tree, into great guilt and fearful despair. Now I was as one bound; I felt myself shut up into the judgment to come. Nothing for the next two years would abide with me but damnation and an expectation of damnation.

    I did ever so know now what it was to be weary of my life and yet afraid to die. Oh, how gladly I would have been anybody but myself, anything but a man, and in any condition but my own. There was nothing that did cross my mind more frequently than that it was impossible for me to be forgiven my transgression and be saved from the wrath to come.

    Please remember that the above was written by the man who broke through all this torment to bless multiplied millions of Christians.

    So, I, and many other Christians have had to deal with the exact same repulsive thoughts from the devil. Here's some more pointers for dealing with them effectively :

    If your car is stuck in mud, the worst thing you can do is give in to panic and rev the engine. To panic and try harder seems the natural thing to do, but the more you spin the wheels, the deeper you sink. You need to stop, calm down, and try a completely different approach, such as getting out of your car and putting rocks and branches under the wheels.

    Trying to stop bad thoughts or images or guilt feelings or doubts, or expecting some sort of personal “sign” that Jesus really does forgive every sin, is like spinning the wheels. It feels the right thing to do, but it just makes you sink further. You need to calm down and try a very different approach.

    Remind yourself that all Christians have horrid, out-of-character thoughts, but only some of us get so disturbed by them that our very desperation not to think them causes the thoughts to so stand out in our minds that they keep repeating like a spinning car tire.

    Unwanted thoughts are like watching a horror movie. If we let ourselves get caught up with what we are viewing, we can imagine that we are so personally involved that we fill with terror. We need to step back and remind ourselves that we are safe and that it is only a movie. Don’t be shocked or depressed by the thoughts that come into your mind. They no more reveal the person you really are than a movie does. Don’t make the devil’s day by beating yourself up over them.

    [Say the following out loud, firmly and calmly:]
    In the name of Jesus I address any demonic powers that would seek to exploit any physical or psychological weakness I may have. I rebuke you and command you to leave! No matter how clever your attempted bluff, you have no power over me and I am spiritually safe because my faith is in the infinite saving power of the Lord Jesus. I cling to the Savior who promised never to leave me nor forsake me (Hebrews 13:5; John 6:37; 10:28-29). I refuse to be duped out of my Christ-bought rights. My faith is not in the presence or absence of guilt feelings, or some other quirky sign, but exclusively in the saving power of Jesus who died for the sins of the entire world. Evil spirits, you are defeated. The blood of Jesus cleanses me from all sin. And this is true, no matter what feelings or thoughts come upon me.

    When you reach the point where you could not care less whether or not you are attacked by doubts, oppressive guilt feelings or spiritually repulsive thoughts, the attacks themselves will lessen. That’s a psychological fact.

    Moreover it is a spiritual fact: when evil powers are thoroughly convinced that they can no longer use such things as unwanted thoughts to annoy you, or undermine your faith in Christ’s salvation, they will eventually begin to tire of that approach and only try it now and again, just to check that you have not reverted to being concerned by such attacks.

    However, reducing the attacks is not the goal at all. That would be a meaningless victory. Anyone can be victorious when not attacked. The goal is to glorify God by believing in the power of Christ’s forgiveness, regardless of whether the attacks continue every few minutes or every day for the rest of your life.

    The fact that you dislike the thoughts or images, proves they are not coming from your heart.

    If, for example, it seems it is you who are swearing at God in your mind, it’s a trick. Tell yourself, “The devil is swearing at God and tempting me to think that God, the righteous, loving Judge, would unjustly hold me responsible for the devil’s sin.”

    [FONT=&quot]So no matter how despicable the words or images invading your mind are, YOU ARE NOT SINNING !!!

    The Evil One’s dirtiest trick is to do something disgusting and then try to blame you and/or God for it
    . The all-knowing Lord isn’t fooled into blaming you for the devil’s underhanded attack, and neither need you be fooled.

    [FONT=&quot]Moreover, Jesus sympathizes with you, having himself suffered such attacks during his earthly life (Hebrews 2:18; 4:15). And because of Jesus, no one can snatch you out of God’s hand (John 10:29).[/FONT]

    Here's some more really good news **** :

    [FONT=&quot]Just as we can’t stop the devil from being the devil, we can’t stop temptation from coming; we can only stop ourselves from being deceived by it.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]So don’t bother trying to stop the unpleasant thoughts. Let them rage. Just try to stay relaxed and assured that Jesus understands. [/FONT]**** [FONT=&quot]He responds to Christians having filth pumped into their minds as to Christians being tortured for their faith[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. Upon you is the blessing that Jesus pronounced on those who are persecuted. He sees you as a hero in the making[/FONT][FONT=&quot]. He is especially close and compassionate as you suffer this vile assault; this demonic persecution[/FONT][FONT=&quot].[/FONT]

    Profane and godless thoughts are whirling through your head not because you are sinful but for the very opposite.
    You are under attack because hell’s hordes are panicking over the fact that the blood of Jesus declares you righteous.

    All of Satan’s hordes hate and fear your status with God and some are trying their hardest to fool you into no longer believing in who Christ has exalted you to be in God’s eyes.

    In their desperation, they are trying to dupe you into falling for the false logic that unwanted thoughts – or any genuine sin you repent of – could negate the power of the cross.

    [FONT=&quot]We have noted that when assaulted by unwanted thoughts or feelings, our instinctive reaction is to panic and try hard to fight the thoughts, but doing so only sends the thoughts spinning more furiously around and around in our minds. Yes, fighting and/or fearing thoughts actually make them recur more often[/FONT][FONT=&quot].

    [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Life will grow more pleasant when you eventually manage to replace the old reaction of panicking and trying harder, with the much more effective habit of remaining UNCONCERNED by spiritual attacks[/FONT][FONT=&quot].

    Herein ends my post. It was probably way too long, rambling and disjointed, but I did my best. Hopefully anyone who has read even just a little bit of this 2 part post will be able to take comfort if the same spiritual attack happens to them.

    I have had TOTAL VICTORY in Christ Jesus, just as He has promised to all of us that trust in Him. Satan put me through THE RINGER....... and HE LOST BIG TIME!!!! [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

    All that loser succeeded in doing was cause me to draw ever closer to the Lord, to drink ever more from His living waters and cling to His AMAZING grace, peace, love and mercy. [/FONT]
    When I, through the prompting of the Holy Spirit (praise Him exceedingly!!), learned to stop fighting the thoughts, to stop giving attention to satan the attention seeker, and instead look on Christ, it was then that the fiery darts of the enemy were extinguished! Oh yes, he still fires them from time to time, but they are few and far between.

    My armor of God is on 24/7 and I have the victory. His attacks are not much more than a minor nuisance now. He likes to test me to see if I am going to look at the roaring waves for a second as I walk on the water towards Jesus, or if I am going to keep my gaze on Jesus only. And satan knows the answer to that one!

    Jesus said MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT UNTO YOU.....please never forget that, whenever you are attacked by the enemy. NO MATTER WHAT, Jesus will NEVER FAIL US !!!

    God bless you, in the mighty name of Jesus Christ!

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  4. Thanks for your support, brother. His peace most certainly does reign in my heart and I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me!!

    God bless!
  5. WELL PRAISE GOD!!! PEACE SEEKER!!! I read all of both parts you wrote and can amen them!! The path we walk,is governed both by what we say, or speak,and what we do! If we say I will never be able to do this,we will not. Well my flesh is just to weak in this area,well it is!( proverbs 18:21!) Death and life are in the power of the tongue!

    Such a small rudder we steer, yet so very very!! Powerful! The hardest part for me was to replace my feeling,inside me,for faith,outside of me,and inside the very Word of God! Eph 3:20!! But our words can stop this from taking place as many have found out! Say what you need,not what you feel,or how things appear to look! Quick example!

    God calls Jeremiah 1:5 Jeremiah says in verse 6 BUT!! LORD!!! I do not know how to speak, because I am but a youth. verse 7!! right away!! The Lord says back to him!!! DO NOT SAY!!!!!!! I am a youth! Because EVERYWHERE I send you you shall go! AND!! ALL!! I command you ,you shall speak! SEE!! Jesus does not know of two words!! TRY!!! or can't! Try never did a thing,and is only an excuse for one to fail,and can't??? What can't God himself do???( luke 1:37!! among so many other scriptures!

    To have what we need,we have to speak what we have in Faith to GOD! THEN!!! ACT! God gave us his Word not to read!!! BUT to speak and live! Faith comes by hearing!!!Rom 10:17 not by reading!! Speak so you hear!! That is why we speak!! to create faith in us!

    And that faith created moves the natural to the supernatural because our loving Jesus knows!!! what you need! The problem is many believers speak words the devil uses!!( eph 4:27) They give him the oppertinuity to move!! Wrong person!! He is as peacekeeper said a thief!!( john 10:10) his purpose is to take away from you,even what little you now may have! SPEAK!! HEAR!!!! ACT!!! The is how Faith from our Jesus in us MOVES mountains! This always works!! It cannot fail!! We have this promise!! BUT!! We have to SAY!! them not read them!

    That is what I learned my brothers and sister,I read the Word outloud so that my ears hear!!! so that my faith can grow!! HEARING brings action!! because action is what you believe you are SAYING!! YES!! this is VERY PERSONAL to each and everyone of the body of Christ! I am so thankful for you Peacekeeper!! as well as you all! We learn first by speaking God's truth,then we can become set free by that Word!!( john 8:31-32) To abide in Jesus is to speak and act,SAY what you NEED!!! The Word affect us!! LET IT!!(Psalms 119:169-176!!) Set a guard over my mouth oh Lord!! to set it,you have to speak it!( Psalm 141:3)

    I will set no worthless thing before my eyes!!( psalm 101:3) Then follow this! and Let the FAVOR of the Lord be upon me!!SPEAK IT!!!( Psalm 90:17!!) Thank you Lord for YOUR FAVOR!! Take 5 min a day,to speak some scriptures you need in this New Year!! And Brothers and sisters!!!! YOU WILL HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW YEAR!!! INDEED! Not yelling! making a clear point of truth!! We speak, what we need,and we have what we speak!( rom 4:17-18) All we are doing,is acting like our Father!! who is in us! We are HIS Descendants,let us SPEAK like it! Praise God!!
  6. Thank you for your support!, and for showing us how much stamina the Lord can give us! I mean ...... you read BOTH parts????

    Absolutely! The writer of Proverbs 18:21 and James were kindred spirits !!

    James 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

    Yes it is hard for us sometimes, the war of the flesh against the spirit. The Spirit says, "rejoice always!", the feelings say, "I'm having a lousy day". The Word says, "let everything that hath breath, praise ye the Lord!". Our feelings say, " I don't feel like praising God today".
    God says He is a friend that sticks closer than a brother. Our feelings say, "it doesn't feel like God is very close to me today".

    Our feelings need to be left at the door when we enter into THE DOOR. In Jesus there is life, in feelings there is death. Our old nature was feelings-based, our new nature is Christ and faith-based!

    Amen! God didn't say we can attempt all things through Him. Or we can hope for the best through Him. He said, as you know, "I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me"!! All things!

    Which means I can praise Him when I don't feel like it, because my feelings are left at the door and my flesh and feelings have no dominion over me. My spirit shouts out hallelujah!!, and the flesh learns to sit there and take it!! LOL
    I can rejoice always because Jesus has overcome the world! I have been bought with a price and I am set free from the law of sin and death! Wow, that makes some of these other things in my life take on a little less importance then!

    And if I don't sense that God is very close to me today, maybe it's because He has me SO CLOSE to Him that I can't see anything!! Like when looking at a building from afar, versus standing millimeters away from the building and just seeing a blurry wall in front of you.

    We don't walk by sight, but by faith. What we feel matters not, it's whom we are trusting in that matters.

    That's a very profound statement! The way our mind works, when we speak out loud, rather than just thinking a thought, we are implanting our thought deep into our subconscious, which takes our thoughts as fact and works towards making that thought a reality.

    I believe God made our minds like that for a reason!

    I do this a lot when I am talking about God-related things to my wife. I often find myself reminding her that I am talking to myself as much as I am to her!!

    Again, yes! Spirit, soul and body unites in action when we do this.

    We are blessed when we hear the Word of God. Romans 10:17 :
    So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    I should have the Bible on CD and listen to it when I am in bed as I go to sleep. Feeding my spirit, which hears everything even though I am asleep, for 7 or 8 hours straight! Blessed is he that hears and does the Word.

    As God spoke the world into existence, we can speak into action the things we are asking for in faith. We can speak into action the things we believe. Your other post about praying with faith AND works applies here, and is something I will always remember. Thanks brother!! I am always learning!
  7. Oh that the truth might be known!

    Bless you all.

    Speak, I say, Speak the Word of God without fear! Let the earth hear HIS voice.

  8. Amen, brother!
    Psalm 57:5
    Be exalted, O God, above the heavens; let your glory be over all the earth.
  9. #9 evan, Jan 3, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2012
    God answered my prayers

    I'm am sorry to "hyjack your awesome thread Peace Seeker, but I just wanted to put in the testimony and praise thread how my husband was about to become a United Church of Christ Pastor and how upset I was about it. For a week I was in much prayers that my husband withdraw his canidancy as a Pastor for the UCC and that he cancell his Sunday morning preaching appointments with the church, he was scheduled to preach all Sundays in January. A few days ago, on the spur of the moment we met with a friend. Our friend said he was coming off a fast. My husband went into details about how he is about to become a UCC pastor (one of the most liberal chuches in the country). Our friend asked what does your wife think about you becoming a UCC pastor and my husband said she doesn't want me to go near the church. She wants me to cancell all contacts and commitments with them. Our friend said "listen to your wife' she's right. The next day my husband cancelled all contact with the UCC church. It's a miracle, Praise God. Thank you Peace Seeker and other Talk Jesus friends for your support while I was going through this.
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  10. Nothing hijacked here, you're bringing great news! I responded to it in your other post as well. Your faith will both be rewarded!
  11. Thank you

    Thanks Peace Seeker.
  12. Amen, this is a great lesson for believers. This is a spiritual war we're in, and that means spiritual/demonic forces will try to discourage us and make us feel like failures by whispering lies and blasphemies in our mind.

    We are called to take every thought captive unto Christ:

    2 Corinthians 10:5
    5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,

    If it doesn't line up with God's word, it's of the enemy and should be recognized as such. This understanding frees us from the condemnation that can spring from such thoughts.
  13. Sister Evan! I am so thankful to Holy Spirit for this! My joy for you both has been made full because you both learned a lesson, I did not!! You see I let pride enter,even as you both did not! I fell!! HARD!! In fact a person died because of my pride! That is why I came out with fireworks for you!

    I never wanted another brother in the Lord to make the same mistake I did! Had I said this at the start, it could have been my own words,and that would never due!Your husband sought the Lord! And that dear sister in Christ was the entire purpose for the warning!

    God moved because you both sought him to move! I had to learn how to put self aside, and follow!! Not have Jesus look to follow me!! I believed your husband to be a very good and kind man in the Lord! Of this!! I never doubted! There can be no sub for Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit will not ever have anyone take his place in us!

    I had to be made low to find this out! I am thankful you both did not have to!! May every blessing increase in both of your lives,of this I also have no doubt they will! 1 cor 1:4-9!!! I praise God!! That he has given us ALL!! his wisdom and understanding more and more in HIM!! amen
  14. #14 astraysheep, Jan 5, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2012
    my struggle blasphemous thoughts

    thank you for your testimony
  15. #15 Peace Seeker, Jan 6, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2012
    You're welcome! My greatest hope and sole desire in posting it was to hopefully help anyone who has or will go through this. I hesitated for quite a while about whether or not I should "expose" myself like this, but I concluded that I would be very saddened to know that there were others out there that were going through the same thing, but feeling all alone and too scared or ashamed to say anything or seek help.

    It is a heavy subject, but I wanted everyone to remember and take comfort in the fact that NOTHING is too heavy a subject for God to handle. He is an expert at dealing with our biggest issues when we let Him !

    And I believe God wants me to help others, just as He has helped me throughout all of my ordeal.

    2 Corinthians 1:3-4

    Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.

    AMEN !!
  16. Hey Bro... Thanks for the testimony and posting about Charles Spurgeon... Been thinking to read one about him just lately where, he too fight some kind of struggle. And here is it.. LOL

    He's been one among my favorite authors alongside with Oswald Chambers...

    Again, thanks for the post... This helped me as well ;).. It's a great reminder.. hehe


  17. Hi sis, I guess my post was good timing! :wink: Glad it helped you. Regarding Oswald Chambers, I'm actually currently reading My Utmost For His Highest.
  18. please pray for me

    I've been undergoing having unwanted blasphemous thoughts against the Holy Spirit for 6 months now. And yesterday I mistakenly said something that could be blasphemous against the Holy Spirit. I don't have any peace and I need as much prayer as possible. My name is Chantell.
  19. From what I understand the pharisees who witnessed Christ's miracles and said they were from satan are the only ones able to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. There is a great article on Got Questions . org about blaspheming the Spirit. I have been delivered from blasphemous thoughts that for 3 years now, just keep praying through it. Give the thoughts right to Jesus in prayer and ask Him to help you. Don't even acknowledge the thoughts, just give them right to the Lord. They are the enemy attacking you but remeber you are free in Christ. My silent prayer when I have thoughts pop into my head is, Lord please cleanse my heart, mind and soul. It took 5 years of fighting my old self and trusting fiercly in Christ before the Lord delivered me of it. I was saved but just strugglng in faith. God can use trials to strengthen and mature us. Much love in Jesus
  20. There is divided opinion about who can and can't blaspheme. But I know a born-again Christian can't do it, and God knows His own and all who ever will come to Him, so they will be kept from doing that sin as well.
    You are correct that we shouldn't even acknowledge the thoughts, which is what the enemy wants us to do. He wants us to get all agitated by them and take our focus off of the only thing that matters, which is Jesus Christ, the One who sustains us thorough our trials.
    And yes, God can use trials to strengthen and mature us, to teach us things like perseverance and overcoming in faith. Another reason for trials is so that we can help others going through them.
    2 Corinthians 1:3-4

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