Please re-read post # 2.Since people don't usually wear a sign saying "Born-again believer" or "Christian" -- we don't know who's a believer or not.
Please re-read post # 2.
Paul addressed the brethren in attendance when he said Gal 6:10. Paul never said person A or person B in attendance were saints or sinners. He called all in attendance brethren. When someone was in a mortal sin as in the case of 1 Cor 5, he told those in regular attendance to throw such a person out of attendance. Welcome him back if he repents and stops said sin.
So, we are to firstly look after those who attend church with us. There is a type of sanctification on all in attendance. People don't keep going to church because they hate God.
A building is evidence of the person in charge doing his job properly. If I was elected as the pastor and took the congregation to a swamp or an open area where the public has full view of us, the congregation would still be the body but a foolish body that entrusted a fool to organize gatherings.that Verse is not referring to the “institutional church” it isl addressing “the family of God” and others, the house of God is not a building with people names on the roster. God does not dwell in buildings, no matter where you are at, you are the Temple of God. if you have been “born from above” that is the only way to belong in the “family of God”. If you come up some other way, “you are a thief or robber. Personally I think we should lose that word church, and use the word Jesus used “My Congregation”. “
Jubilee Bible 2000
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, a small rock and upon the large rock I will build my congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her.
(Matt. 16:16). A more word for word translation of the text.❤ (A Trump-up word called “church”). “Wake-up thou that sleepiest “. You are asleep in the light!❤
If one Christian is an axe murderer and the other, one who doesn't shower often, it doesn't matter. Ok, noted.KingJ is getting a bit of the RCC background in talking about mortal sins. In reality it doesn't matter -- the poster is talking about who to be helping 1st -- the person in the local body of Christ who are meeting together or those outside of and in the community.
A building is evidence of the person in charge doing his job properly. If I was elected as the pastor and took the congregation to a swamp or an open area where the public has full view of us, the congregation would still be the body but a foolish body that entrusted a fool to organize gatherings.
We should help anyone who has an emergency.I heard a pastor say christians only suppose to help other believer, i think its kind of mess up. What if you see a burning house with a non believers screaming for help do i just sit there or help them? I would try to help them
Sue, you are missing the points I have made in both posts.KingJ -- you're sounding a Bit 'silly' -- the swamp and all. Could 'we' get back to reality?! You're making it sound like that congregation isn't very smart. Congregations are made up of people who want to hear the Word of God. They are all over the world. Depending on the geographical location, a church group Might be meeting outdoors being in a war-torn country. So - the idea Being that local church groups should be Both helping those from within the congregation And those in the community.
Some denominations Do appoint pastors to a given area. Baptist churches do not. They do accept applications from men interested in pastoring -- it's an interesting process. Done prayerfully.
My opinion is that of course we need to help all people and non believers aswell. And besides that's one of the ways to reach them for the gospel. The Bible is complete and teaches us how to show love to believers, non believers and everyone. " You shall love your neighbor as yourself " Matthew 22:39 However a true kind of love we can only show after accepting the love of Jesus for us on the cross. Then we will be able to love also people that will not always agree with us for everything. And obviously with non believers we can meet that obstacle. And even if we see them not accepting the gospel we mustn't give up and leave them just because they don't agree with us on this. With many we need to show patience and perseverance. Obviously there is a time that we have to leave them, but that's at last and only if we see that they can influence somehow our faith. We have to show love and also being watchful to keep our life pure. There is a verse as well in Matthew 5:46,47saying: " For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do? "I heard a pastor say christians only suppose to help other believer, i think its kind of mess up. What if you see a burning house with a non believers screaming for help do i just sit there or help them? I would try to help them