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10 Prophecies Fulfilled in 1948

Discussion in 'Evidence & Prophecy' started by Chad, Feb 10, 2004.

  1. Greetings,

    Interesting that a 'trump' has arrived on the scene of history.

    Could you please explain your last paragraph @Beresheet

    When you wrote:
    They fought with God during that time and proved their loyalty to God at that time.

    did you mean 'fought alongside with God'?

    Bless you ....><>
  2. Israel Today

    July 13, 2014

    ~ "For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, ‘It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.’ In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring." ~ Romans 9:6b-8

    ~ “His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility... For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.” ~ Eph. 2:14-18

    ~ “For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law… The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," MEANING ONE PERSON, who is Christ.” ~ Gal. 3:10, 16

    ~ “So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” ~ Gal. 3:26-29

    ~ “For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise. These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother…

    “Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. IT IS THE SAME NOW. But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.” ~ Gal. 4:22-31

    ~ "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.” ~ Matt. 12:30

    ~ “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.” ~ 1 Jn. 2:22

    ~ “As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.” ~ Ro. 11:28-32

    ~ “When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” ~ Matt. 8:10-12

    Galatians 6:12-16: “Those who want to impress people by means of the flesh are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ. Not even those who are circumcised keep the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your circumcision in the flesh. May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.”

    Romans 2:29: “No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.”

    My Thoughts

    We, the church, the Body of Christ, are the children of promise now (See Gal. 4).

    The physical nation of Israel today is not to be confused with the nation of Israel of old. The nation of Israel of old was God’s holy people, set apart for God and for his service, although they certainly did not always live like holy people. Still, they belonged to God. He created them for his purposes. From them would come Jesus Christ, their Savior, into the world to save sinners, yet they, as a nation, rejected their promised Messiah, the seed of Abraham, and they had him crucified on a cross to die as though he was a common criminal, although he had done no wrong. So they, as a people, were cut off from the vine due to unbelief (See Romans 11). They can be grafted back in through belief, though. As well, many Jews have believed in Jesus Christ as their Messiah, Savior and Lord. Amen!

    Jesus Christ, through his death and resurrection, made believing Jews and Gentiles one in Christ. He destroyed the barrier between the two groups.

    So, you see, God only has one chosen people now, and they are the true church, the Body of Christ, whether Jew or Gentile by physical birth. Yet, we are no longer divided Jew and Gentile, but we are divided Christian and non-Christian; saved and unsaved (See Gal. 3:26-29).

    It is critical that we get this in order for us to truly comprehend what is going on in the world and in the Middle East today! The physical nation of Israel today is not of God! They are not God’s chosen people, in other words. It is of Satan! Those who do not believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of their lives do not worship the God of Abraham. They are antichrist! They are not the children of promise. Only those who believe in Jesus Christ are the children of promise and heirs of God. The physical nation of Israel today is no different from any other nation created of men. They are of Hagar, so they are no different from the Arab nations. We need to get this. They are the “Gentiles” now! And, they are opposed to God and to his Son Jesus Christ, just like they were at the time they killed the Son of God, which means they are also opposed to the gospel of salvation and to those who hold to the testimony of Jesus Christ. So, why do so many Christians support them?

    With regard to the prophecies in Ezekiel, if they are concerning these last days, then they have to be interpreted in light of the above mentioned concerning who Israel is today. In other words, in Ezekiel 36 it speaks of the people of Israel as having defiled their land by their conduct and their actions. So, God poured out his wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had defiled it with their idols. So, God scattered them among the nations. Wherever they went, they profaned God’s name. Yet, for the sake of His Name, God decided that he would gather Israel from all the countries where they were scattered and he would bring them back to their own land.

    Then, he said that he would sprinkle clean water on them, and they would be clean. He will cleanse them from all their impurities and from all their idols. He will give them a new heart and he will put a new spirit within them. He will remove their heart of stone and will give them a heart of flesh (pliable hearts). And, he will put his Spirit in them and will move them to follow his decrees. He will save them from their uncleanness. On the day that he cleanses them from all their sins, he will resettle them in their towns and their ruins will be rebuilt.

    Ok, the physical nation of Israel is described in the New Testament as being of Hagar, the slave woman. She, as a nation, has not turned to Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior, so she has not been cleansed of her sins, she does not have a new heart, and the Spirit of the Lord is not in her as a physical nation. So, this passage in Ezekiel 36 cannot apply to the state of Israel as created by the UN/US/Rothschilds, et al. The cleansing is a prerequisite to the resettling and the rebuilding. As well, this is speaking of a spiritual renewal of God’s people, too, which the Jews who do not believe in Jesus are not today. Or, it is speaking of the Jews coming to faith in Jesus Christ. According to Wikipedia and a 2012 CBS report, the Christian population in the nation of Israel is somewhere between 2% to 3.5%. So, this cleansing of sin and the Spirit of God within her only represents a very small minority of the nation, so, again, this cannot be a reference to the present state of Israel as a nation.

    My concern here, which I believe is also God’s concern, is that many Christians are giving their support to and are standing with an ungodly nation which does not worship the God of Abraham, and that, in doing so, they may, in fact, be supporting Satan and his work. Biblically speaking, I see no precedent for giving our support or standing with anyone other than Christ Jesus, his word, his gospel of salvation, and his followers who are holding strong to their testimonies, who are not denying their Lord, and who are suffering persecution for the sake of the cross. How do we know that the nation of Israel is not involved in the persecution of Christians, and even in their deaths, and that by supporting them we may be, in fact, supporting the persecution of our brothers and sisters in Christ worldwide. The passage in Galatians 4 says that the son of the slave woman, physical Israel, persecutes the Son of the free woman, which includes the persecution of the saints of God, true believers in Jesus Christ. So, please pray about this, because I believe this is HUGE!
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  3. Hello.

    First, I want to say that there are christian Jews living in Isreal. And more Jews still do get saved over there. That must mean God working in Isreal.

    Second, there are anointed prayer intercessor's that God lays on their heart to pray for physical Isreal. It gets prayer around the clock.

    That''s it for now, Im on a phone and it is too hard to go back and relook at things written in here that I wanted to mention.

    Oh, I did want to ask where did Jesus say there was 40 yr., 70 yr. and 120yr. generations? And where does it say that this generation, of the sons of Isreal that came back in 1948 that Isreal was established as a state that Christ would return? I've heard that before, but have no idea where that is. Maybe the poster didn't say Christ would return, I can't go back and look, but he did refer something concerning that generation . I did hear that from someone else tho, that Christ would return. Tho I am not a pretribber.
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  4. Hello @Chad,

    If the unconditional promises of God to Israel are to be fulfilled, which were made to the patriarchs concerning an everlasting seed and an everlasting land, then it is obvious that the present condition of Israel, scattered as they are throughout the nations of the world, must be altered: and that they must be gathered from out of the nations and brought back to the land of promise. This is promised in Jer. 31:10. 'He that scattered Israel will gather him'. Isaiah Israel does not yet possess all of the land promised to them in Genesis 15, either.

    'In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying,
    Unto thy seed have I given this land,
    from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:'

    (Gen 15:18)
    * This has not happened yet, this is a resurrection of the children of Israel.

    This is as far as I can go at the moment.
    In Christ Jesus
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  7. #27 cfowen, Jul 28, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2018
    No prophecy has been fulfilled for the last 1948 years. That the nation of Israel, formed in 1948, was a fulfillment of prophecy, is the BIG LIE, the GRAND HOAX, of the last century.

    From The Grand Hoax.
    "The Israeli government, today, is made up of unbelieving Jews administering a socialistic government which depends mostly upon the U.S.A. for its sustenance. When the true descendants of the three Patriarchs occupy the Land, they will depend on the LORD their God, and in no-one else will they trust. They will be totally dependent upon the Lord Jesus Christ. And, He will meet every need of His re-gathered people"

    Eze 11:17-20
    17 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord God; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.
    18 And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.
    19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
    20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them:
    and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

    Eze 36:24-28
    24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
    25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
    28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

    These verses show what will happen when God actually does collect Israel and return her to the land. Israel is still as filthy as ever. They certainly haven't had a new spirit put into them. It's impossible that they are walking in God's statutes, keeping His ordinances. Without a temple, they CAN"T keep the law. If they can't keep the law, they are not God's chosen people, although they will be again in about 45 years. When's the last time they offered an animal sacrifice, which they must do under the law? There will even be animal sacrifices by Israel during the millennium - Eze 43:19,21,22,23,25, 45:18,22,23,24, 46:7,11. Of course, they'll have a temple then.Israel will always have to keep the law. After God gathers them, they will have their (Jer 31:31) New Covenant,whose only purpose is to indwell Israel with the Spirit (see verses above) and put the law in their inward parts, so they will be able to keep the law and love doing it.

    There has been no nation of Israel since they were set aside in Ac 28:25-27, when Paul pronounced total spiritual blindness on them, through the curse of Isa 6:9-10, for the 7th (the number of completion) and last time in the Bible. All OT prophecy involves Israel. Since Israel doesn't exist, in God's eyes, no prophecy can be fulfilled.

    Here's a map of modern Israel (red) vs the true promised land
    The Geographic Center of The Earth And The Bible

    Just because 2 things are similar, that doesn't mean they're the same!

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