When a person's 'experiences' do Not match up with Scripture -- then maybe a person's 'experiences' aren't truly Biblical.
You're possibly setting yourself up for a situation in which -- if other's Don't have the same experiences that You have, that, in fact, They are in the wrong -- or being misled -- that it can't possibly be you being misled.
And That is one reason why 'we' need to be getting together on a very frequent basis with other believers -- sort of a checks' and balances system. Satan loves to get into our heads and deceive us -- he knows our weaknesses. Just like Eve was deceived in the perfect environment that God created for everyone. Satan put doubts in her thinking -- she Chose to follow satan's deceitfulness Rather than listen to God's Word. We All like the idea of being smart people -- we'd Like to think that we can be smart just like God is. And That tends to be our downfall. We Need to listen to God's Word and not add our own concepts To His Word - not adjust His Word to fit Our concepts. We are but human beings.
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No Sue you are but a human being, we are as Trevor puts it Aliens, New Creatures whom the world hates and despises and cannot receive for we testify of the Son of God that dwells in us and paid for us with his own blood.
We fellowship in our own home, the established church have moved away from the written woI would bet that if you open your mouth to speak in a church they would throw you out. Organized religion which is men teaching men who teach you know almost nothing of
the experiences we have with the Holy Ghost, simply because they have not been indwelled by him yet? Would you agree.
I would bet that if you open your mouth to speak in a church they would throw you out. Organized religion which is men teaching men who teach you know almost nothing of
the experiences we have with the Holy Ghost, simply because they have not been indwelled by him yet? Would you agree.
Hi Samson, We fellowship in our home because the established church no-longer adhere to the written word and as a God fearing believer I refuse to depart from it, and anyway, as we feed on the word we receive revelation and grow. As for those who change the word, if they were moving in the Spirit they wouldn't. Bless you.I would bet that if you open your mouth to speak in a church they would throw you out. Organized religion which is men teaching men who teach you know almost nothing of
the experiences we have with the Holy Ghost, simply because they have not been indwelled by him yet? Would you agree.
Sue, you are right, we do need to fellowship with those who listen to God's word but most churches have moved away from what is written and are now in ignorance. for instance, take Cor: 14- 33-38. Here we are told that our apostle Paul says:- "as in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to enquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored." The problem Sue, is that most churches have chosen to ignore this scripture that carries a warning of ignorance. Do you believe Sue, that I, as a person who fears God, because he is able to take away my eternal life. should follow churches that so fragrantly ignore his warnings? Bless you.When a person's 'experiences' do Not match up with Scripture -- then maybe a person's 'experiences' aren't truly Biblical.
You're possibly setting yourself up for a situation in which -- if other's Don't have the same experiences that You have, that, in fact, They are in the wrong -- or being misled -- that it can't possibly be you being misled.
And That is one reason why 'we' need to be getting together on a very frequent basis with other believers -- sort of a checks' and balances system. Satan loves to get into our heads and deceive us -- he knows our weaknesses. Just like Eve was deceived in the perfect environment that God created for everyone. Satan put doubts in her thinking -- she Chose to follow satan's deceitfulness Rather than listen to God's Word. We All like the idea of being smart people -- we'd Like to think that we can be smart just like God is. And That tends to be our downfall. We Need to listen to God's Word and not add our own concepts To His Word - not adjust His Word to fit Our concepts. We are but human beings.
Sue, you are right, we do need to fellowship with those who listen to God's word but most churches have moved away from what is written and are now in ignorance. for instance, take Cor: 14- 33-38. Here we are told that our apostle Paul says:- "as in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to enquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored." The problem Sue, is that most churches have chosen to ignore this scripture that carries a warning of ignorance. Do you believe Sue, that I, as a person who fears God, because he is able to take away my eternal life. should follow churches that so fragrantly ignore his warnings? Bless you.
26“But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep.27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; (John 10: 26,27). He never told us to invite them into our sheep fold and dine with us. There cannot be any fellowship with unbelievers. For it is impossible, it cannot be done. Your Job is to go out and proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Not to direct people to go to church. If no one will say Amen I will say Amen all by myself! I will be the “Athanasius” of this time periodWhen a person's 'experiences' do Not match up with Scripture -- then maybe a person's 'experiences' aren't truly Biblical.
You're possibly setting yourself up for a situation in which -- if other's Don't have the same experiences that You have, that, in fact, They are in the wrong -- or being misled -- that it can't possibly be you being misled.
And That is one reason why 'we' need to be getting together on a very frequent basis with other believers -- sort of a checks' and balances system. Satan loves to get into our heads and deceive us -- he knows our weaknesses. Just like Eve was deceived in the perfect environment that God created for everyone. Satan put doubts in her thinking -- she Chose to follow satan's deceitfulness Rather than listen to God's Word. We All like the idea of being smart people -- we'd Like to think that we can be smart just like God is. And That tends to be our downfall. We Need to listen to God's Word and not add our own concepts To His Word - not adjust His Word to fit Our concepts. We are but human beings.
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I just cannot see where the “modern day church” is a example of the New Testament teaching of the “Congregation” of Jesus Christ”.
Sue you did say:When a person's 'experiences' do Not match up with Scripture -- then maybe a person's 'experiences' aren't truly Biblical.
So you can say: When a church experiences do not match up with Scripture then. Maybe a church experiences aren’t truly biblical as well,
if you think we have not been over ran by the doctrine of men with a building flooded with goats. You might be deceived already. Jesus told Peter,? If you love me “Feed my Lambs, if you love me, feed my sheep! He did not tell him to build a goats pen, and feed goats! ❤ Are we in agreement. In other words train my sheep to be disciples then they will go and proclaim my WORD! Goats do not understand God's Word. Goats should not be in the sheep pen!.❤
I know, we are over-comers and the victory has been won. But have we on earth, been overrun . If you think so, please list “Holy Scripture” both Old Testament and New Testament for verification. And do you feel, we are so few in numbers, in this generation.
Hi Sue, 2 Cor 6:14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. for what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."PloughBoy - so you're saying that only born-again believers are to go to church? That 'we' should not be inviting any non-believers to church with us? But how do we Really know for sure who is or isn't saved? I'm thinking that you're going a bit over-board with separating the sheep from the goats. Only God really knows who they are or aren't.
So -- if there are people moving in next door -- we get to talking with them and they are new to the area. We tell them about the church We go to. They seem interested and come Sunday -- they ask about going With us. Or we see them and ask if they'd like to go with Us. You're saying that No we shouldn't? I'd say Yes, go for it. Invite them -- take them With us - if appropriate. Why NOT. Am I understanding you correctly?