I hope he is more inline with long standing moral truths that Francis avoided for the sake of appeasement of people. I am not so sure that the cardinals meeting in secret and the whole process of picking a new pope is healthy. They should be sequestered separately, and vote supposedly as led by the Holy Spirit, and not with making deals with others that has little to do with the Holy Spirit. But the new pope comes from Chicago, which is one of the most corrupt states of the union, probably in the top 5 most liberal leaning states.

It doesnt mean he is corrupt, but only time will tell where his heart is with the Lord.

Brad Huber said:

I hope he is more inline with long standing moral truths that Francis avoided for the sake of appeasement of people. I am not so sure that the cardinals meeting in secret and the whole process of picking a new pope is healthy. They should be sequestered separately, and vote supposedly as led by the Holy Spirit, and not with making deals with others that has little to do with the Holy Spirit. But the new pope comes from Chicago, which is one of the most corrupt states of the union, probably in the top 5 most liberal leaning states.

It doesnt mean he is corrupt, but only time will tell where his heart is with the Lord.

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My understanding is that he's been living in Peru, although he grew up in Chicago.

I read that he has dual-citizenship, USA and Peru.

Jesus_is_LORD said:

My understanding is that he's been living in Peru, although he grew up in Chicago.

I read that he has dual-citizenship, USA and Peru.

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Francis asked him to go to Peru, to more or less take over for him when he left to be Pope Francis. Thats not a good sign imo of where he stands on morals that have held firm for more than a 1000 years.

Found this.

Brad Huber said:

I hope he is more inline with long standing moral truths that Francis avoided for the sake of appeasement of people. I am not so sure that the cardinals meeting in secret and the whole process of picking a new pope is healthy. They should be sequestered separately, and vote supposedly as led by the Holy Spirit, and not with making deals with others that has little to do with the Holy Spirit. But the new pope comes from Chicago, which is one of the most corrupt states of the union, probably in the top 5 most liberal leaning states.

It doesnt mean he is corrupt, but only time will tell where his heart is with the Lord.

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Can't trust anyone from a blue state!!!

Jesus_is_LORD said:

https://apnews.com/live/conclave-pope-catholic-church-updates-5-8-2025

While I feel there are errors in the Catholic beliefs, I'm sharing not because I'm Catholic but simply because
it is news in Christendom.

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Massive news. Whether you are Catholic or not, nobody can dispute the power and influence he has on so many.

Like Brad, I certainly hope he does better than Francis and stops the moral decay within the church at large.

This nonsense of drag queens speaking at the pulpit has to end!

He's a centrist.
He supports illegals and open borders and anyone with half a brain knows that's a horrible idea.

MedicBravo said:

He's a centrist.
He supports illegals and open borders and anyone with half a brain knows that's a horrible idea.

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What were the statements he made about undocumented immigrants?

Jesus_is_LORD said:

What were the statements he made about undocumented immigrants?

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Ilegals?
He supports open borders and illegal invaders.

I would offer

Sounds like too much honey (false pride),

Proverb informs believers of a government that has no rule over thier own spirit of one nation. The Untied Nation. . The nation of all nations under one God

Those with false pride having a multiple of gods in the likeness of men from all nations. No wall

Proverbs 25:27-28 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.;He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

Where there is no law as a wall. . then there is no trespass, no God, and no religion too.

Build them higher.

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Ilegals?
He supports open borders and illegal invaders.

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Ummh.

My take on it based on what it means to be a disciple of Christ is this:

(1) We are to obey the laws of the nation
(2) We are to love others and show compassion to the needy, the foreigner, the alien
(3) Sometimes it is not a matter of whether someone is guilty of a crime but what is the posture of
our heart in our response. For example the lady caught in adultery was indeed guilty but Jesus did not stone her.
Daniel was guilty of not honoring the Babylonian law, but God rescued him. Jews were probably guilty of certian crimes
during Hitler's days but many Christians protected and harbored them.

Now I'm in no way at all saying I support open borders or us not having immigrant laws. I think all nations
have to secure their borders, period.

Yet, when I read scripture God's problems with God's people are often less about if they followed laws
but the posture of their heart. And unfortunately I sense very little room for grace, compassion and mercy in much of the messaging around those who carry publicly the name of Christ as it relates to the immigrant issue.

Don't get me wrong and don't misquote me, I'm not saying we should have open borders, I'm just saying the thief on the cross
was guilty of his crime but because of his heart posture he was saved, yet many pharisees committed no laws against the Roman empire
yet they will not be found in paradise.

Something to reflect upon.

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Now I'm in no way at all saying I support open borders or us not having immigrant laws. I think all nations
have to secure their borders, period.

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It was fine with Biden as long as the immigrants were Roman Catholic from South America. It wasn't fine when they were from Ukraine and Greek Orthodox. Think about it.

Chicago and the other big inner cities had too many Roman cathedrals that were empty. Had to fill 'em up somehow.

(Follow the money of the NGOs back to Catholic Charities.)

Rhema

Rhema said:

It was fine with Biden as long as the immigrants were Roman Catholic from South America. It wasn't fine when they were from Ukraine and Greek Orthodox. Think about it.

Chicago and the other big inner cities had too many Roman cathedrals that were empty. Had to fill 'em up somehow.

(Follow the money of the NGOs back to Catholic Charities.)

Rhema

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Greetings Rhema.

Please educate me, I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of.
Are you saying that when Biden was the president he targeted immigrants who were
Roman Catholic from South America?

If that is so, double standards AKA hypocrisy is wrong no matter who does it. We know that
our God is not a respecter of person or one who aligns God's Self with any political party.

It always gets interesting when it comes to politics and religion. It is use a big complicated subject
that requires much wisdom. These are my thoughts on politics and religion.

(1) Christians are called to be modelled citizens and become involved in the process of government
(2) We follow the laws but our ultimate allegiance is to Christ (which sometimes leads to civil disobedience, AKA Daniel, Peter, Moses, etc)
(3) We should not shy away from promoting our Christian values for the welfare of the society
(4) Yet we should know that the final path to changing the heart is not through civic legislation but through the work of the church.

Rhema said:

It was fine with Biden as long as the immigrants were Roman Catholic from South America. It wasn't fine when they were from Ukraine and Greek Orthodox. Think about it.

Chicago and the other big inner cities had too many Roman cathedrals that were empty. Had to fill 'em up somehow.

(Follow the money of the NGOs back to Catholic Charities.)

Rhema

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Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox serve the same spirit of the legion many gods in the likeness of men called patron saints .

Venerable puffed up men that lord it over the understanding or faith of the non-venerable pew warmers or show time watchers .

The same as the Pharisees with Sadducees two sects that put there differences aside to try and make sola scriptura without effect In ored to folow the I heard it through the legion of venerable fathers grape vine as oral tradition of dying mankind

Their foundation "out of sight out of mind" .They are the ones that made Jesus into a circus seal, do some magic work a miracle then when we see with our own eyes we will believe for one micro second

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Because they had no creative powerful "Let there be" good faith coming from the Father. . they made the apostles into gods in the likeness of men .
Greek and Roman mythology

Note my offering in parenthesis ( BLUE)

Acts14:7-14;And there they preached the gospel.(The invisible power of Christ unto salvation) And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked:The same heard Paul speak: (the living gospel) who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith (Christ's) to be healed,(born again);Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. (the loving commandment of Christ) And he leaped and walked. And when the people (unbelieving ) saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.;And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.;Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.;Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

Jesus_is_LORD said:

Please educate me, I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of.
Are you saying that when Biden was the president he targeted immigrants who were
Roman Catholic from South America?

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The overwhelming majority of the immigrants were Roman Catholics from South America. I had even predicted that Biden would stop this when the American Roman Catholics met their quota. Look at the distribution data. They were bused and flown into cities to be settled by Catholic Charities.

Roman Catholic Churches in inner cities are dying. The entire project was to revitalize these churches with new people.

Jesus_is_LORD said:

If that is so, double standards AKA hypocrisy is wrong no matter who does it. We know that
our God is not a respecter of person or one who aligns God's Self with any political party.

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As if Biden (who is Roman Catholic) would care. Your God might not be "a respecter of persons," but the Catholic Church sure is. Did you have a chance to be elected Pope? I don't think so. Dig into their doctrine. Only Roman Catholics can be saved.

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It always gets interesting when it comes to politics and religion. It is use a big complicated subject
that requires much wisdom.

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There was a national outcry in the US when Kennedy (JFK) became President, with concerns that he would take direction from the Pope.

And the only reason Martin Luther was able to finally spark the Reformation was because of money and politics.

Jesus_is_LORD said:

These are my thoughts on politics and religion.

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Thank you for your thoughts.

Jesus_is_LORD said:

(4) Yet we should know that the final path to changing the heart is not through civic legislation but through the work of the church.

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When Jefferson sparked the separation of church and state, the church was running education. And you might find the Philadelphia Bible Riots to be interesting.

Rhema

Rhema said:

As if Biden (who is Roman Catholic) would care. Your God might not be "a respecter of persons," but the Catholic Church sure is. Did you have a chance to be elected Pope? I don't think so. Dig into their doctrine. Only Roman Catholics can be saved.

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Roman Catholic like her sister Greek Orthodox (the spirit of false pride) was passed on from the Pharisees "with" Sadducees at the time of the first century reformation Hebrew 9

Hebrew 9:8-ll ;The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:;Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.;But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Matthew 16:1 The Pharisees also "with" the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.

Same false authority (Oral traditons as false pride) used during the 15th century reformation a carbon copy

Paul as Saul previously opposed sola scriptura went around murdering those who did trust in all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura)

When Saul was born again from above Paul became #1 one wanted dead or alive. Murderer of the Christian

Acts 22: 3-6 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers (oral traditons of dying mankind ), and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.;As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters (from Pope) unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished.
They tried a mock trial oral traditons of fathers dying mankind ;(I heard it through the grape vine )

Acts 24:5-6 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:;Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law. (I heard it through the grape vine )

They that served dying flesh called succession of false apostles ended up shooting thier own foot.

Oral traditons of dying mankind do not prove scripture. . its the other way around .

Acts24:13-14vNeither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers,(not a legion of father as if one God ) believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophetssola scriptura)

It is why the book of Revelations is hated by the Greek Orthodox it gives us the the loving law not add or subtract from sola scriptura. It as the witness of God makes the idea of a queen mother "Rhea" or what some call Mary named after or blessed sister in the Lord making scripture to no efect . Simply . Greek mythology

Jesus_is_LORD said:

Ummh.

My take on it based on what it means to be a disciple of Christ is this:

(1) We are to obey the laws of the nation
(2) We are to love others and show compassion to the needy, the foreigner, the alien
(3) Sometimes it is not a matter of whether someone is guilty of a crime but what is the posture of
our heart in our response. For example the lady caught in adultery was indeed guilty but Jesus did not stone her.
Daniel was guilty of not honoring the Babylonian law, but God rescued him. Jews were probably guilty of certian crimes
during Hitler's days but many Christians protected and harbored them.

Now I'm in no way at all saying I support open borders or us not having immigrant laws. I think all nations
have to secure their borders, period.

Yet, when I read scripture God's problems with God's people are often less about if they followed laws
but the posture of their heart. And unfortunately I sense very little room for grace, compassion and mercy in much of the messaging around those who carry publicly the name of Christ as it relates to the immigrant issue.

Don't get me wrong and don't misquote me, I'm not saying we should have open borders, I'm just saying the thief on the cross
was guilty of his crime but because of his heart posture he was saved, yet many pharisees committed no laws against the Roman empire
yet they will not be found in paradise.

Something to reflect upon.

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1. Obeying the laws of the nation especially means of ANY other nation/country regardless the reason a person is coming to it. NO reason to break immigration laws. NONE.
2. If anyone takes this as a reason for them to break laws and you do so by helping you're not "loving". The standard IS the person coming in, be it a foreigner or anyone here going out of their home country to follow the laws.
3. They are guilty of federal immigration crime by default.
a. Adultery is nowhere near the same as breaking federal immigration laws.
b. Jews killed Jesus among other evils and I do NOT give an expletive what anyone things of me for that.

If borders must be built and laws very "strict" and to keep people out by any means necessary so be it. No?
Look at who's been coming in. Large groups of men. No women. No children.
Also: People with cell phones, clean clothing, and a lot of fat people. Clearly not in dire circumstances.
Were they checked at the border for COVOID (ahem) rebranded flu? No.

Every country has it's own problems. We have our own people to worry about before any foreigner.
Imagine the look on people's face in a food bank line or to get aid who actually needed it while "illegals" get to skip the line.
Jesus would NOT approve.

Brad Huber said:

I hope he is more inline with long standing moral truths that Francis avoided for the sake of appeasement of people. I am not so sure that the cardinals meeting in secret and the whole process of picking a new pope is healthy. They should be sequestered separately, and vote supposedly as led by the Holy Spirit, and not with making deals with others that has little to do with the Holy Spirit. But the new pope comes from Chicago, which is one of the most corrupt states of the union, probably in the top 5 most liberal leaning states.

It doesnt mean he is corrupt, but only time will tell where his heart is with the Lord.

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Heard he calls Mary God.. don't know how true it is I haven't heard him speak yet
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Twistie said:

Heard he calls Mary God.. don't know how true it is I haven't heard him speak yet
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I don't know of any Catholic that would call Mary God. They do, though, call her the Mother of God, for more than 1,600 years now. (Theotokis.)