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Hitch

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For those who follow the popular rapture teachings I'm asking for your favorite quotes from Jesus Christ in support.
 
May i ask whats is a rapture teaching?. And what kind of child of God would even follow the teachings of a mortal human being.? When he has the Spirit of the living GOD in him, And the "SON of GOD" revealing to Him the Father, having all three in commune in him.and he has a bible and can read. Now i can understand a uncoverted sinner need someone to direct them in the right direction in pursuit of Salvation. But a child of The Living GOD looking in pursuit of another creature concerning the things of GOD about his own Father. Now thats is preposterous!
Especially if your Father is GOD. Now if a true Child of GOD has been drinking tained "Cool Aid" i understand.
 
Hitch said:
For those who follow the popular rapture teachings I'm asking for your favorite quotes from Jesus Christ in support.
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Don't worry too much about the nay-sayers.

The 3 most commonly used passages to support a rapture are...

Matt 24:30; "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31; "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Mark 13:26; "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.
Mark 13:27; "And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven.

1Thes 4:15; For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
1Thes 4:16; For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Thes 4:17; Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

The word rapture, simply means "gather-up" or "catch up together".
 
PloughBoy said:
But a child of The Living GOD looking in pursuit of another creature concerning the things of GOD about his own Father. Now thats is preposterous!
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I am tempted to ask how many youtube Video's you've posted on here this week, of "men" teaching about God?
 
PloughBoy said:
May i ask whats is a rapture teaching?. And what kind of child of God would even follow the teachings of a mortal human being.? When he has the Spirit of the living GOD in him, And the "SON of GOD" revealing to Him the Father, having all three in commune in him.and he has a bible and can read. Now i can understand a uncoverted sinner need someone to direct them in the right direction in pursuit of Salvation. But a child of The Living GOD looking in pursuit of another creature concerning the things of GOD about his own Father. Now thats is preposterous!
Especially if your Father is GOD. Now if a true Child of GOD has been drinking tained "Cool Aid" i understand.
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You dont know what a rapture teaching is ? Thats dishonest . Act your age .
 
B-A-C said:
Don't worry too much about the nay-sayers.

The 3 most commonly used passages to support a rapture are...

Matt 24:30; "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31; "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Mark 13:26; "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.
Mark 13:27; "And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven.

1Thes 4:15; For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
1Thes 4:16; For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Thes 4:17; Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

The word rapture, simply means "gather-up" or "catch up together".
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Support here is lacking for most popular rapture schemes. Especially 24;30 as many have go as far as to explain this event as a secret.
 
B-A-C said:
I am tempted to ask how many youtube Video's you've posted on here this week, of "men" teaching about God?
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There is a difference between teaching bible classes , bible lectures and preaching, and how to read, and how to interpret scripture. And biblical history. And teaching the greek alphabets, and how to read the Hebrew alphabets, and to read greek syntax and how to read "Hebrew" from Right to left both do not have sentence breaks
But the things of GOD no man can teach you but GOD. If you notice most videos concerning leactures are not opinions but read in "expository presentation"

That is why I posted a thread a while back; most christians do not under what words mean and they do not care, and they develop their personal own definitions.
Like i am willing to bet over a billion christians in this world do not even know what the word christian means and they-will fight you to win over their own definition they like. And what their definition is. And attacted other churches for calling themselves christians who are christians too.
 
Hitch said:
You dont know what a rapture teaching is ? Thats dishonest . Act your age .
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Why would you say that, when most everyone has a direct view. There are more than one view completely opposite of each other. I bet you can line 50 christians and you will at least get 30 views what a rapture teaching is and neither one is right. Now what? I am acting my age, you are the one with milk on your breath and didn't come from the "grocery store".
 
Hitch said:
Looks like Jesus didnt have much to say about rapture.
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Matt 24:30; "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31; "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Mark 13:26; "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.
Mark 13:27; "And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven.
 
Did not Jesus ministered to unregenerate people who had not the "Spirit of GOD" in them to enlighten them to what He was saying, And He did tell them they would understand later. And when they did Receive The "PARACLETE" He reminded them what Jesus had said. Although JESUS explain things to them they still did not understand what he was a saying. But When The "SPIRIT" came rushing like a "POWERFUL WIND" PNEUMA" POWER


1.1 Translating (to) pneuma (hagion) into English In the Greek New Testament I identified 254 instances where pneuma refers clearly to what is normally translated "the Holy Spirit" or more simply "Spirit." Of these occurrences of pneuma, 138 are articular, and 116 are anarthrous.

Pneumatology refers to a particular discipline within Christian theology that focuses on the study of the Holy Spirit. The term is derived from the Greek word Pneuma, which designates "breath" or "spirit" and metaphorically describes a non-material being or influence. Wikipedia

FOR The "Holy Spirit" is a Person " Anthropomorphically" speaking. I will use the word similar as unto a "Symbiosis"

What is Pneumatology?
ANSWER

The word Pneumatology comes from two Greek words which mean "wind, air, spirit" and "word" - combining to mean "the study of the Holy Spirit." Pneumatology is the study of God the Holy Spirit, the third Person of the Trinity. It answers numerous important questions about the Holy Spirit:

Even it answer things about "The RAPTURE" which is Part of "The Things to Come" Through the illumination of The Revelation revealed IN "Jesus Christ" Our LORD.

And I am a-shame because, I am not worthy for HIM to dwell in such a creature as I and it pains me sometimes I cannot explain. An unworthy creature. even right now.:pensive: "Lord forgive me and wash me, for I am a sinful man" and pride tears me apart. for it wounds and grieves my spiritual soul. And tomorrow I have to get up and do it again. for we do die daily:pensive:

(1 Corinthians 15)
American Standard Version
I protest by that glorifying in you, brethren, which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
I swear by your pride, my brethren, which I have in our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, that I die every day. :pensive:

And it amazing me, He raises me from the Grave.
 
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Only God the Father knows when the rapture will take place. But we make our own personal decision to accept Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior. The question has come up as to what is a Christian. A Christian is a Christ follower. A disciple because they want to follow Him in our daily lives.
 
For many have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior but they have not bow down and submitted to Him as Their "LORD" :pensive: They have not been wiling to be a "slave" and call Him "Master". "And Why called me LORD, LORD and Do not do what I say" A slave obeys HIS MASTER" unconditionally. No matter what it costs,, beatings, Martyr, talked about, being mis treated, For Jesus is our example, We have been called to be mistreated, scarred, spit upon, lied on, wounded, we all are called to "died violent deaths is our calling. For we all are called to be a "Witness":= Martyr". We are not kings and priests yet, The Coronation Day have not come yet. Neither have we come to "THE BEMA SEAT". for now we all are called To "SUFFER" all kinds of distress!

"For we are trouble on every side" we are press so hard that HE had to Send "THE COMFORTER" The Advocate [PARACLETE] to be in us and to walk beside us. If not we could not have made it this far. A child of GOD cannot endure this walk, without "The PARACLETE" for it is impossible to do so.

Even Moses had the "PARACLETE" indwelling him. who GOD put in The 70 also, to help Moses lead The people. Because the journey was to great for him. So it was with Him so it is with us, who have The "SPIRIT of GOD' indwelling us, because the journey is to GREAT for us to endure.

That is why a unregenerate Christian cannot walk the suffering route of Christ [Via Dolorosa] and we are never commanded to compel them to do so. For they have not been empower with the Power to do so. And it does them great harm to compel them to put on them something they have not the "Pneuma" of GOD. to do so.

It takes the "SPIRIT" of GOD for a person to become a 'Slave" of Jesus. and by calling Him "LORD" that means He has become your "MASTER" and You have become HIS "BOND SLAVE":eyes: And most women will never become a "BOND SLAVE" of "JESUS CHRIST", especially when her husband slap her beside Her head. And tell her to go sit down in corner.:sob: she ain't going to turn that cheek...:eyes: And obey your husband. She do not care what "JESUS say" she going to see The PASTOR, crying. purring. laying her head on his shoulder. They want nothing to do with JESUS they want another answer.:sob:

They might say "lord" but they do not mean "LORD"!

That is why the Bible says: "no one can call Jesus "LORD" only by The "SPIRIT" of GOD" >>>>>>>But they can call Him 'lord'. small "lord'. :eyes: without the Spirit of GOD.
 
PloughBoy said:
For many have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior but they have not bow down and submitted to Him as Their "LORD" :pensive: They have not been wiling to be a "slave" and call Him "Master". "And Why called me LORD, LORD and Do not do what I say" A slave obeys HIS MASTER" unconditionally. No matter what it costs,, beatings, Martyr, talked about, being mis treated, For Jesus is our example, We have been called to be mistreated, scarred, spit upon, lied on, wounded, we all are called to "died violent deaths is our calling. For we all are called to be a "Witness":= Martyr". We are not kings and priests yet, The Coronation Day have not come yet. Neither have we come to "THE BEMA SEAT". for now we all are called To "SUFFER" all kinds of distress!

"For we are trouble on every side" we are press so hard that HE had to Send "THE COMFORTER" The Advocate [PARACLETE] to be in us and to walk beside us. If not we could not have made it this far. A child of GOD cannot endure this walk, without "The PARACLETE" for it is impossible to do so.

Even Moses had the "PARACLETE" indwelling him. who GOD put in The 70 also, to help Moses lead The people. Because the journey was to great for him. So it was with Him so it is with us, who have The "SPIRIT of GOD' indwelling us, because the journey is to GREAT for us to endure.

That is why a unregenerate Christian cannot walk the suffering route of Christ [Via Dolorosa] and we are never commanded to compel them to do so. For they have not been empower with the Power to do so. And it does them great harm to compel them to put on them something they have not the "Pneuma" of GOD. to do so.

It takes the "SPIRIT" of GOD for a person to become a 'Slave" of Jesus. and by calling Him "LORD" that means He has become your "MASTER" and You have become HIS "BOND SLAVE":eyes: And most women will never become a "BOND SLAVE" of "JESUS CHRIST", especially when her husband slap her beside Her head. And tell her to go sit down in corner.:sob: she ain't going to turn that cheek...:eyes: And obey your husband. She do not care what "JESUS say" she going to see The PASTOR, crying. purring. laying her head on his shoulder. They want nothing to do with JESUS they want another answer.:sob:

They might say "lord" but they do not mean "LORD"!

That is why the Bible says: "no one can call Jesus "LORD" only by The "SPIRIT" of GOD" >>>>>>>But they can call Him 'lord'. small "lord'. :eyes: without the Spirit of GOD.
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A disciple is a Diligent learner. There are all kinds of Disciples. for here we are talking about "Diligent Learners" who are learning about "JESUS CHRIST" adamant learners about HIM. and Him only! After a person has become A "BORN FROM ABOVE" Creature of GOD, then He must start to "Learn about JESUS CHRIST of The BIBLE, and The Mature in Christ teaches HIM How To be a DILIGENT STUDENT of The BIBLE and HOW to study it by Himself so he or she might know "CHRIST" who is The ANOINTED and The SALVATION of GOD The FATHER. Only a "DISCIPLE" of Christ can make another Born of ABOVE creature can make another "DILIGENT" Student who study about who "CHRIST" is. Just because a person receives the HOLY SPIRIT, that person must learn who "JESUS CHRIST" is. after they receives the HOLY SPIRIT. "Come learn of me"

remember, etymology.
a follower and a disciple
a disciple learns from another. a apprentice.
a follower follows

Christianity can be complicated. And never that simple. with over 2,6 billion christians throughout the world. And everyone is a "Disciple maker". Now imagine that.
Now we have "The Rapture". comes in all kinds of views, the democrats the republicans, the independent, the green party, figure of speech. and that is only in the USA. Christianity is world wide sits on 7 CONTINENTS:eyes: Have you consider them. and their view point.
 
B-A-C said:
Matt 24:30; "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.
Matt 24:31; "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Mark 13:26; "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory.
Mark 13:27; "And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven.
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And exactly where does this say anything about floating up in the sky ?

This is the best you have isnt it ?
 
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