Hello

[planet2146]

I'm a Christian, Baptized, Confirmed and Catholic school educated

 

[Bill]

I'm a Christian, Baptized, Confirmed and Catholic school educated

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

Welcome to Talk Jesus. Here you will meet people from a number of different philosophies. But all this is good as the core is all about Jesus who is the center of our lives

 

[NBTT]

Welcome! I was educated Catholic too. In Romans 11 there is only one singular olive tree that supports all who are saved.

 

[planet2146]

I'm a Christian, Baptized, Confirmed and Catholic school educated

Now, at no time did I ask god to be his human ashtray, or to prove how weak I was and how strong he was.

 

[Christ4Ever]

I'm a Christian, Baptized, Confirmed and Catholic school educated

Hello Planet2146,
Welcome to Talk Jesus an online community of Jesus Christ believers.
I hope you will find fellowship, and growth in God's Word, while here.
With that being said, I you can please let me know which Gender you are M/F it would be appreciated. This way I can change your bio to reflect the appropriate one. It will also allow you access to the Forum for either Men or Women.

Thanks in advance, and again be welcomed!
With the Love in Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Bill]

Now, at no time did I ask god to be his human ashtray, or to prove how weak I was and how strong he was.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

Just curious, why would you say that?

And could you enlighten someone like me to understand that better?

 

[NBTT]

Now, at no time did I ask god to be his human ashtray, or to prove how weak I was and how strong he was.

Our loving Father doesn't put challenges on our shoulders to burden us or to prove His might. He wants us to learn to lean on Him and trust Him and develop our relationship with Him.

 

[planet2146]

Our loving Father doesn't put challenges on our shoulders to burden us or to prove His might. He wants us to learn to lean on Him and trust Him and develop our relationship with Him.

He doesn't? That is your reality.

 

[planet2146]

Our loving Father doesn't put challenges on our shoulders to burden us or to prove His might. He wants us to learn to lean on Him and trust Him and develop our relationship with Him.

To the point it wears your down and causes great grief? It seems like a twisted hobby for him. No thank you here.

 

[planet2146]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

Just curious, why would you say that?

And could you enlighten someone like me to understand that better?

Your reality and my reality of the lord are different. I know one thing, the lord arranges things in such a way that they are difficult to explain. His ways are very nuanced and clandestine. I have also found that there is no such thing as a coincidence and he knows what you are going to think at any precise time as he matches things up in coincidence. I don't believe in "Satan" so that only leaves the almighty one.

 

[Bill]

Your reality and my reality of the lord are different. I know one thing, the lord arranges things in such a way that they are difficult to explain. His ways are very nuanced and clandestine. I have also found that there is no such thing as a coincidence and he knows what you are going to think at any precise time as he matches things up in coincidence. I don't believe in "Satan" so that only leaves the almighty one.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

When I talk about accepting the fact that Satan is real, doesn't mean that I accept him as something that I want to receive. I don't.
Jesus stated that he saw Satan fall from Heaven. Jesus is acknowledging that Satan is real and that he has fallen, and is a fallen angel. We have to accept what Jesus said

 

[NBTT]

To the point it wears your down and causes great grief? It seems like a twisted hobby for him. No thank you here.

I've been chronically ill for four presidential terms so I know about being worn down and to suffer loss. This is not our forever home, it's a training ground. The greatest man ever born of a woman wound up imprisoned and eventually beheaded. MT 11:11

Like navy seal training which is very tough for a reason, God prepares us for our forever home by placing obstacles that without relying on Him would be insurmountable. Yes satan exists and was created by God who allows him (for a time with restraints) to place obstacles in our path.

May this world's challenges/obstacles transform us into loving and compassionate believers in Jesus.

 

[planet2146]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

When I talk about accepting the fact that Satan is real, doesn't mean that I accept him as something that I want to receive. I don't.
Jesus stated that he saw Satan fall from Heaven. Jesus is acknowledging that Satan is real and that he has fallen, and is a fallen angel. We have to accept what Jesus said

yin and yang, god and the devil are just the frame work of the person pulling the levers. Whatever it is.

 

[planet2146]

I've been chronically ill for four presidential terms so I know about being worn down and to suffer loss. This is not our forever home, it's a training ground. The greatest man ever born of a woman wound up imprisoned and eventually beheaded. MT 11:11

Like navy seal training which is very tough for a reason, God prepares us for our forever home by placing obstacles that without relying on Him would be insurmountable. Yes satan exists and was created by God who allows him (for a time with restraints) to place obstacles in our path.

May this world's challenges/obstacles transform us into loving and compassionate believers in Jesus.

Sorry to hear that you are ill, I don't wish that on anyone. It did come to mind that life as we know it is a training ground. Natively it is an extreme experience with a lot of heartache. I think things could of have been thought out a little less crudely.

So in your opinion, "Satan" provides counter balance when we reach success in life and experience joy? I totally get that inkling. What problem do you think god has with success and joy? A poster in another forum said that god's expectation with how we live life was to complete the sacraments, then move on to the priesthood.

 

[Bill]

yin and yang, god and the devil are just the frame work of the person pulling the levers. Whatever it is.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

No.

 

[NBTT]

What problem do you think god has with success and joy?

COL 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

God is all about joy and love. We are being taught through this worldly experience to seek joy and love where it lasts forever not in temporary/ephemeral things down here. You often see love stories where the rich man hides his wealth to find a woman who loves him for him not for his money. God is infinitely rich in love and in this world He is selecting those who love Him by partially hiding Himself and presenting worldly alternatives to His love.

If God (who is Love) instantly showed everyone exactly how wonderful life in his presence will be and how dreadful life completely separated from Him will be, then everyone would "choose" heaven. That's a self serving choice and rebellion by some would eventually follow as seen by humans and angels in Genesis. This tempting and challenging world is how the everlasting love story begins for those who believe His promises and choose Him over the world.

I think things could of have been thought out a little less crudely.

I have to admit I have thoughts some times like: "Really God? Childhood cancer?". I'm also grumpy on days where my heath is beating me up particularly hard. Ultimately we have to trust that the Creator knows what's best for us.