DO WE HAVE TO CONFESS OUR SINS?

[DougE]

Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

This passage says that we have been forgiven.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

It is taught that 1 John 1:9 means we have to confess our sins to receive forgiveness.

We can not, at the same time, have forgiveness, but have to confess it in order to receive it.

1 John 1:9 is written only for national Israel, who as a nation, was to confess their iniquities:

1[Leviticus 26:40 KJV] "If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;"
[Nehemiah 1:6 KJV] "Let thine ear now be attentive, and thine eyes open, that thou mayest hear the prayer of thy servant, which I pray before thee now, day and night, for the children of Israel thy servants, and confess the sins of the children of Israel, which we have sinned against thee: both I and my father's house have sinned."
[Nehemiah 9:2 KJV] "And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers."
[Ezra 10:11 KJV] "Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives."

 

[bellaj]

No if you confess then other people will know about them

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear @DougE
Context is very important. This supports the entirety of the New Testament, and the Covenant found therein.

[1Jo 1:7-10 KJV] 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Bill]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

In answering the question, do we have to confess our sins, the answer is yes

 

[Bill]

No if you confess then other people will know about them

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

If others use what they hear for malicious purposes. Then they sin in other ways.

Your confession of your sin is between you and God. Nothing says that you can't go out in the woods and confess your sins to God, in a private way. Where others can't hear you

 

[bellaj]

There's someone on the other side of the confession booth??

 

[DougE]

Dear @DougE
Context is very important. This supports the entirety of the New Testament, and the Covenant found therein.

[1Jo 1:7-10 KJV] 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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1 John confession of sins is also found with Israel's baptism ******** [Mark 1:5 KJV] "And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins."

1 John has the same elements as found in John such as keeping his commandments and receiving whatever is asked and believing on the name of Jesus

1 John is written to Israel

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear @DougE
Context is very important. This supports the entirety of the New Testament, and the Covenant found therein.

[1Jo 1:7-10 KJV] 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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1 John confession of sins is also found with Israel's baptism ******** [Mark 1:5 KJV] "And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins."

1 John has the same elements as found in John such as keeping his commandments and receiving whatever is asked and believing on the name of Jesus

1 John is written to Israel

I was going to add to my previous post that only a dispensationalist could see it this way, but excluded it then, but am adding it now. That is why I added the additional verses of 1 John to show you within context that the view such as you are communicating is unacceptable for all believers.

If v7 (which I noticed you failed to consider in your reply) only applies to Israel is your position because it is found in 1 John, you still must wrestle with Paul agreeing with this in many of his epistles as well. For if the Blood of Christ cleanses "all" then you cannot say that there is a separate dispensation for believers. For the forgiveness of sins is only through the Blood of Christ, be they Jew or Gentile.

Oh, and don't circle back to start speaking about different churches, because I do believe that has already been addressed between us.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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[DougE]

1 John, you still must wrestle with Paul agreeing with this in many of his epistles as well.

Not sure what you mean
Paul never says to confess sin for forgiveness

 

[Bill]

There's someone on the other side of the confession booth??

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

In the Catholic Church, the priests take a strict vow of silence and are not allowed to share with anyone other than God of course when people confess their sins to them.

Priests are not allowed to share any information with any authorities at any time no matter who it is. Doing so violates their oath.

 

[Bill]

1 John confession of sins is also found with Israel's baptism ******** [Mark 1:5 KJV] "And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins."

1 John has the same elements as found in John such as keeping his commandments and receiving whatever is asked and believing on the name of Jesus

1 John is written to Israel

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

Even though the Bible was written to certain groups of people during their times, we have to understand that the Bible is also written for all of us and not just for those people.

In the creation of the Bible itself, Jesus would not have stirred the hearts of those who translated it and brought it into a written form that later we can print as the Bible is now. We have to recognize the fact that Jesus is not only the author of The Bible, but he is the orchestrator in the way in which it was first set. Accepting certain books and not accepting others. These original books that were in the Bible from the beginning when it was first put into print where the ones that Jesus ordained to be there.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Not sure what you mean
Paul never says to confess sin for forgiveness

Again, you avoid v7 in the division you attempt to create as a dispensationalist.

Still, Paul talks about repentance, but do you believe that a believer cannot sin, or that if they do, they don’t need to repent because the Blood of Christ covers them regardless?

Denying sin is wrong; honest acknowledgment and repentance restore practical fellowship with God and others which is what Paul speaks of as well.

Once again, division is taking place instead of uniting the Body of Christ, and what’s being promoted by you reflects exactly what is seen in Christendom around the world today.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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