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Do the Protesters even know what they are Protesting ( Minneapolis).

How can one claim to Love what they can not see yet cant even see those who need love that are in their own area..
Our Love must encompass ALL those in need regardless of race, colour, nationality nor religion, Christs commandments to " love your neighbour as yourself" and "Treating others as youd want to be treated" had no limitations, no conditions, but was a universal call to Justice, Love and compassion.
Throwing money at man is not Love it is not seed planting it dangerous for those depending on him to do good with it n it shows laziness on the part of the one throwing it at them in hopes they will do right by them..
When you give money to those in need you are not "throwing money", you are providing food, you are providing shelter, you are providing clean water, you are providing Health care, you are providing welcome for the Stranger, you are providing Aid for the prisoner, this is not just bits of paper but practical help, an indicator of our Love and Compassion for those in need,, and its not just what we give, its what we have left after we've given that is the true indicator of our generosity, as Christ portrayed in the story of "The Widows Mite",
Im j.s.

Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord."
Do not put your faith in man, but put your faith in Christ and follow his Teachings, only then will you build your faith on the solid rock of his truth
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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

Well I got my information from listening to Facebook news and listening to YouTube news and listening to oan and a bunch of other news sources

I wouldn't consider YouTube news and Facebook news to be exactly conservative news. And yet on Facebook where they were out there videotaping the protesters and the one poster telling the policeman I make more money than you do and then another protester saying I make this much money which is like about a hundred thousand dollars a year of protesting I'm like holy cow maybe I'm in the wrong line of work
I wouldnt put too much trust in YouTube Bill, anyone can dress up and portray themselves as someone theyre not, without independent corroboration its just heresay, as for FB, i'd be interested to see the articles on Protesters being paid.
 
Well, you say you arent political, yet you seem to constantly support and believe the propaganda.
How am i "constantly supporting and believing the propaganda" Brad, i'm just asking you for your sources as to the claims youre making about political violence being largely on the left of US politics, the sources i quoted saying that there has been a rise in left wing violence but that historically the right has been the most violent were all from a Google search, do you contest them?, if so i would be interested to see your evidence for doing so.
The only right leaning violence that I have heard of for all my life was alot of people associated with the right joining the military and then fought in wars, where liberals tend to avoid the military with the exception of the officer ranks, because they prefer telling other people to kill others instead of doing so themselves. I assume it wont be worthwhile asking you to bring to light some examples of right wing violence.
Heres a selection of results from my Googling Right wing violence in the US, see what you think, What are the most notable examples of right-wing viole... Right-Wing Extremist Terrorism in the United States Report: All 25 U.S. extremism-related murders last year were linked to right-wing extremists Right-wing extremist violence is more frequent and more deadly than left-wing violence − what the data shows
I did think of one right wing violent guy though, the guy who distrusted the government (like you) so much, that he send a vehicle filled with explosives to destroy a federal building in Oklahoma.
Its not so much that i "distrust" the Government, but i see ALL Governments as fundamentally under the control of Satan and basically evil in their nature as they are ALL driven in the main by Greed, selfishness and a lust for power.
 
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Our Love must encompass ALL those in need regardless of race, colour, nationality nor religion, Christs commandments to " love your neighbour as yourself" and "Treating others as youd want to be treated" had no limitations, no conditions, but was a universal call to Justice, Love and compassion.

When you give money to those in need you are not "throwing money", you are providing food, you are providing shelter, you are providing clean water, you are providing Health care, you are providing welcome for the Stranger, you are providing Aid for the prisoner, this is not just bits of paper but practical help, an indicator of our Love and Compassion for those in need,, and its not just what we give, its what we have left after we've given that is the true indicator of our generosity, as Christ portrayed in the story of "The Widows Mite",

Do not put your faith in man, but put your faith in Christ and follow his Teachings, only then will you build your faith on the solid rock of his truth
@Rad im not going to read what ever it is you wrote like i said only one can cure your blindness n you dont want to go to Him theres nothing no one can do for you..

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How am i "constantly supporting and believing the propaganda" Brad, i'm just asking you for your sources as to the claims youre making about political violence being largely on the left of US politics, the sources i quoted saying that there has been a rise in left wing violence but that historically the right has been the most violent were all from a Google search, do you contest them?, if so i would be interested to see your evidence for doing so.

Heres a selection of results from my Googling Right wing violence in the US, see what you think, What are the most notable examples of right-wing viole... Right-Wing Extremist Terrorism in the United States Report: All 25 U.S. extremism-related murders last year were linked to right-wing extremists Right-wing extremist violence is more frequent and more deadly than left-wing violence − what the data shows

Its not so much that i "distrust" the Government, but i see ALL Governments as fundamentally under the control of Satan and basically evil in their nature as they are ALL driven in the main by Greed, selfishness and a lust for power.
Like Twistie says, only God can open your eyes. Honestly, I am not unsure that you are just some AI bot sent to sow dissension here. Christianity is constantly under attack all over the world, and the enemy will target sites like this for that purpose alone.
 
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@Rad im not going to read what ever it is you wrote like i said only one can cure your blindness n you dont want to go to Him theres nothing no one can do for you..

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Thats your choice, i think its a shame youre ending the discussion because i too believe you are "walking in Darkness" and need your "blindness" cured, but theres the difference between the two of us, i "believe" you are walking in darkness, you profess to "know" that i am, and its that level of certainty on your part that leads to what i see as a dogmatic and unyielding approach in your attitude. I'm here to discuss my faith, my beliefs and what i think it means to be a follower of Christ and how we put that into practice in our lives. You seem to think that you "know" what it means to be a follower of Christ and that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong and it my case you not only believe that im "walking in darkness" but that i'm being guided by an evil spirit. And theres another big difference between us, whereas i try to base my thoughts and actions on the teachings and commandments of Christ and always try to reference my view with quotes from the Gospels in support of my beliefs, you on the other hand quote passages without any references and ;little relevance to the discussion at hand. I've tried to have you answer specifically where you believe i'm wrong but to no avail, and now you refuse to continue the discussion. So what am i to make of your position, and more importantly what do others make of your position , and what of the thousands of visitors who visit this site, perhaps many looking for answers or guidance as to the issues they face in trying to follow their Lord and Saviour.

I truly believe you have to bring some humility into your faith, accept the fact that it is just belief and that you may indeed be wrong and not everyone that disagrees with you is "walking in Darkness" and being guided by "evil Spirits". Study Christs words and his teachings, build your faith on the solid rock of his truth and understand that we are ALL fallible, sinful wretches living in an evil and suffering world, that NONE of us has the complete truth of Christs words and teachings and that we ALL can benefit from listening to others, discussing our beliefs and where we are wrong, admit that and change our views accordingly.
 
Like Twistie says, only God can open your eyes. Honestly, I am not unsure that you are just some AI bot sent to sow dissension here. Christianity is constantly under attack all over the world, and the enemy will target sites like this for that purpose alone.
But you see Brad, i do believe my eyes have been opened, for sure i admit my sinful nature and my lack of understanding of what it means to be a follower of Christ, but i seek the truth, i try to base my actions on Christs words and teachings and where others show me to be wrong then i change my views accordingly, and isnt that one of the reasons most of us are here for, although it seems that some feel they dont have the need to discuss but already have the "Truth" and are just here to impart it to others, A position f feel shows an arrogance and a complete lack of humility totally in opposition to Christs teachings. The Beatitudes in Matthew 5 : 1 -16 sum up the "state of Mind" of a Christian, a follower of Christ, "poor in Spirit, Meek, Merciful, pure in Heart, and hungering for Righteousness", and while i would never claim to have achieved these virtues , i try to take them into account in all of my Thoughts and actions.

As for my being an "AI bot sent to sow dissension here", well for one, i ve been a member of these forums since 2006, i dont think AI Bots were around at that time, and two, is that how it works, if someone disagrees with you and the prevailing train of thought then they are "AI bots sowing dissension", you are aware that Christ was persecuted and crucified for showing "Dissension" to the authorities and prevailing thought and that he said in Matthew 10: 34-36 " 34;“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.", he spoke of the first being last and the last first and many that profess to know him he will turn away from, Matthew 7: 21-24, his words of opposition and dissension are loud and clear throughout his teachings,to the rich and powerful and those that were assured of their own Righteousness and faith. You really need to take on a little humility, to understand that you may just be wrong, but if you believe that you are indeed right then show me where i'm wrong and not just accuse me of being an "AI bot here to sow dissent".

And what is the "dissent" i'm accused of, in this case with you its asking for references showing that the Right in US politics are more violent than the left, of showing the results of a google search that showed although left wing violence is on the rise the right has historically always been the more violent faction , and when you said that I'd probably not give you examples of right wing violence in the US i posted the results of another Google search, without comment, and left it up to you to decide. For this i was labelled as "constantly supporting and believing propaganda" and my claim to be non political but "Christ centred" hard to believe.

So i ask again, give me your evidence for those statements Brad, if you dispute the findings of my Google searches then tell me where, and tell me anything that ive said that makes me a follower of propaganda and in your view probably on the left of politics?, because i try to base ALL of my actions and words on Christs teachings, yes i fail miserably, because thats the wretched sinner that i am, but i sincerely do try.
 
The following is the complete statement of what I said.

Clearer now on what I said and the purpose for what I said? :)

As far as the rest, again, it depends on how you interpret His words within the context of what He was saying, and to whom He was saying it to. Which of course I've mentioned previously, and had gotten us nowhere, and why it was not part of what I wrote in this particular post.



I could, but if I can see them, shouldn't you be able to as well, and if not, shouldn't you be asking the one who presented their own observations to you? Better the actual source who sees x,y,z in you and your actions, then someone who does not see malice in what you are doing but also sees the negative consequences of your actions as you attempt to apply the Lord's words in your life. For it appears that they are impacting negatively everyone else but you. In thinking what our sister has said about you, if you were to see the resulting actions in others, won't you, and don't you see it as darkness because they haven't followed His words regardless of the results/impact on others? (Selah)



We can talk about it and we have, and notice we still are :) however, it still will never negate the actual battle that we are involved in. Consideration must be given to the powers & principalities that you will find spoken up in Ephesians 6 which our Sister in Christ is very aware of.

Your use of doing as to others, tells me that the most important thing in your life is what you are sharing to help others in. I've already told you about the most important thing in my life, and what it is that I try to share, and believe that we all should be doing above all else. Sadly, I fail at it more often than I’d like, so I don’t hold it against you or anyone else for doing what one believes is right through ones understanding of the word of God, even if the results are less than ideal.

As always Brother Steve.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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Many thanks for that considered and thoughtful reply Brother Nick, i am prayerfully thinking of what youve said and will reply shortly. I didnt want you to think i was ignoring your comments. :)

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick

Steve
 
But you see Brad, i do believe my eyes have been opened, for sure i admit my sinful nature and my lack of understanding of what it means to be a follower of Christ, but i seek the truth, i try to base my actions on Christs words and teachings and where others show me to be wrong then i change my views accordingly, and isnt that one of the reasons most of us are here for, although it seems that some feel they dont have the need to discuss but already have the "Truth" and are just here to impart it to others, A position f feel shows an arrogance and a complete lack of humility totally in opposition to Christs teachings. The Beatitudes in Matthew 5 : 1 -16 sum up the "state of Mind" of a Christian, a follower of Christ, "poor in Spirit, Meek, Merciful, pure in Heart, and hungering for Righteousness", and while i would never claim to have achieved these virtues , i try to take them into account in all of my Thoughts and actions.

As for my being an "AI bot sent to sow dissension here", well for one, i ve been a member of these forums since 2006, i dont think AI Bots were around at that time, and two, is that how it works, if someone disagrees with you and the prevailing train of thought then they are "AI bots sowing dissension", you are aware that Christ was persecuted and crucified for showing "Dissension" to the authorities and prevailing thought and that he said in Matthew 10: 34-36 " 34;“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.", he spoke of the first being last and the last first and many that profess to know him he will turn away from, Matthew 7: 21-24, his words of opposition and dissension are loud and clear throughout his teachings,to the rich and powerful and those that were assured of their own Righteousness and faith. You really need to take on a little humility, to understand that you may just be wrong, but if you believe that you are indeed right then show me where i'm wrong and not just accuse me of being an "AI bot here to sow dissent".

And what is the "dissent" i'm accused of, in this case with you its asking for references showing that the Right in US politics are more violent than the left, of showing the results of a google search that showed although left wing violence is on the rise the right has historically always been the more violent faction , and when you said that I'd probably not give you examples of right wing violence in the US i posted the results of another Google search, without comment, and left it up to you to decide. For this i was labelled as "constantly supporting and believing propaganda" and my claim to be non political but "Christ centred" hard to believe.

So i ask again, give me your evidence for those statements Brad, if you dispute the findings of my Google searches then tell me where, and tell me anything that ive said that makes me a follower of propaganda and in your view probably on the left of politics?, because i try to base ALL of my actions and words on Christs teachings, yes i fail miserably, because thats the wretched sinner that i am, but i sincerely do try.
Evidence? I assume you have at least average intelligence. Many of us here have explained to you why you are in the wrong, but you stubbornly refuse to admit it. You have found certain aspects of christianity to agreed with your mindset and focus on those aspects in that they support your causes. You ignore other aspects of christianity that dont agree with your mindset. Its a common problem amoung those who "play" with Christianity, no real change in being more like Christ in ALL ways, just in the ways they like or have "been taught" as the most important aspects of christianity. With Christ, you either follow Him with ALL your heart, your mind, and your spirit, or go back to the slop that the world has taught you.
 
But you see Brad, i do believe my eyes have been opened, for sure i admit my sinful nature and my lack of understanding of what it means to be a follower of Christ, but i seek the truth, i try to base my actions on Christs words and teachings and where others show me to be wrong then i change my views accordingly, and isnt that one of the reasons most of us are here for, although it seems that some feel they dont have the need to discuss but already have the "Truth" and are just here to impart it to others, A position f feel shows an arrogance and a complete lack of humility totally in opposition to Christs teachings. The Beatitudes in Matthew 5 : 1 -16 sum up the "state of Mind" of a Christian, a follower of Christ, "poor in Spirit, Meek, Merciful, pure in Heart, and hungering for Righteousness", and while i would never claim to have achieved these virtues , i try to take them into account in all of my Thoughts and actions.

As for my being an "AI bot sent to sow dissension here", well for one, i ve been a member of these forums since 2006, i dont think AI Bots were around at that time, and two, is that how it works, if someone disagrees with you and the prevailing train of thought then they are "AI bots sowing dissension", you are aware that Christ was persecuted and crucified for showing "Dissension" to the authorities and prevailing thought and that he said in Matthew 10: 34-36 " 34;“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.", he spoke of the first being last and the last first and many that profess to know him he will turn away from, Matthew 7: 21-24, his words of opposition and dissension are loud and clear throughout his teachings,to the rich and powerful and those that were assured of their own Righteousness and faith. You really need to take on a little humility, to understand that you may just be wrong, but if you believe that you are indeed right then show me where i'm wrong and not just accuse me of being an "AI bot here to sow dissent".

And what is the "dissent" i'm accused of, in this case with you its asking for references showing that the Right in US politics are more violent than the left, of showing the results of a google search that showed although left wing violence is on the rise the right has historically always been the more violent faction , and when you said that I'd probably not give you examples of right wing violence in the US i posted the results of another Google search, without comment, and left it up to you to decide. For this i was labelled as "constantly supporting and believing propaganda" and my claim to be non political but "Christ centred" hard to believe.

So i ask again, give me your evidence for those statements Brad, if you dispute the findings of my Google searches then tell me where, and tell me anything that ive said that makes me a follower of propaganda and in your view probably on the left of politics?, because i try to base ALL of my actions and words on Christs teachings, yes i fail miserably, because thats the wretched sinner that i am, but i sincerely do try.
As for this account being older than ai chat bots... it would be relatively simple to attach an ai chat bot that had been programmed by an atheist to an older account and pretend it was a real person. So that argument is meritless.
 
Thats your choice, i think its a shame youre ending the discussion because i too believe you are "walking in Darkness" and need your "blindness" cured, but theres the difference between the two of us, i "believe" you are walking in darkness, you profess to "know" that i am, and its that level of certainty on your part that leads to what i see as a dogmatic and unyielding approach in your attitude. I'm here to discuss my faith, my beliefs and what i think it means to be a follower of Christ and how we put that into practice in our lives. You seem to think that you "know" what it means to be a follower of Christ and that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong and it my case you not only believe that im "walking in darkness" but that i'm being guided by an evil spirit. And theres another big difference between us, whereas i try to base my thoughts and actions on the teachings and commandments of Christ and always try to reference my view with quotes from the Gospels in support of my beliefs, you on the other hand quote passages without any references and ;little relevance to the discussion at hand. I've tried to have you answer specifically where you believe i'm wrong but to no avail, and now you refuse to continue the discussion. So what am i to make of your position, and more importantly what do others make of your position , and what of the thousands of visitors who visit this site, perhaps many looking for answers or guidance as to the issues they face in trying to follow their Lord and Saviour.

I truly believe you have to bring some humility into your faith, accept the fact that it is just belief and that you may indeed be wrong and not everyone that disagrees with you is "walking in Darkness" and being guided by "evil Spirits". Study Christs words and his teachings, build your faith on the solid rock of his truth and understand that we are ALL fallible, sinful wretches living in an evil and suffering world, that NONE of us has the complete truth of Christs words and teachings and that we ALL can benefit from listening to others, discussing our beliefs and where we are wrong, admit that and change our views accordingly.
 
Many thanks for that considered and thoughtful reply Brother Nick, i am prayerfully thinking of what youve said and will reply shortly. I didnt want you to think i was ignoring your comments. :)

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick

Steve
 
Thats your choice, i think its a shame youre ending the discussion because i too believe you are "walking in Darkness" and need your "blindness" cured, but theres the difference between the two of us, i "believe" you are walking in darkness, you profess to "know" that i am, and its that level of certainty on your part that leads to what i see as a dogmatic and unyielding approach in your attitude. I'm here to discuss my faith, my beliefs and what i think it means to be a follower of Christ and how we put that into practice in our lives. You seem to think that you "know" what it means to be a follower of Christ and that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong and it my case you not only believe that im "walking in darkness" but that i'm being guided by an evil spirit. And theres another big difference between us, whereas i try to base my thoughts and actions on the teachings and commandments of Christ and always try to reference my view with quotes from the Gospels in support of my beliefs, you on the other hand quote passages without any references and ;little relevance to the discussion at hand. I've tried to have you answer specifically where you believe i'm wrong but to no avail, and now you refuse to continue the discussion. So what am i to make of your position, and more importantly what do others make of your position , and what of the thousands of visitors who visit this site, perhaps many looking for answers or guidance as to the issues they face in trying to follow their Lord and Saviour.

I truly believe you have to bring some humility into your faith, accept the fact that it is just belief and that you may indeed be wrong and not everyone that disagrees with you is "walking in Darkness" and being guided by "evil Spirits". Study Christs words and his teachings, build your faith on the solid rock of his truth and understand that we are ALL fallible, sinful wretches living in an evil and suffering world, that NONE of us has the complete truth of Christs words and teachings and that we ALL can benefit from listening to others, discussing our beliefs and where we are wrong, admit that and change our views accordingly.
Rationalization is a process of not perceiving reality, but of attempting to make reality fit one’s emotions.
 
Thats your choice, i think its a shame youre ending the discussion because i too believe you are "walking in Darkness" and need your "blindness" cured, but theres the difference between the two of us, i "believe" you are walking in darkness, you profess to "know" that i am, and its that level of certainty on your part that leads to what i see as a dogmatic and unyielding approach in your attitude. I'm here to discuss my faith, my beliefs and what i think it means to be a follower of Christ and how we put that into practice in our lives. You seem to think that you "know" what it means to be a follower of Christ and that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong and it my case you not only believe that im "walking in darkness" but that i'm being guided by an evil spirit. And theres another big difference between us, whereas i try to base my thoughts and actions on the teachings and commandments of Christ and always try to reference my view with quotes from the Gospels in support of my beliefs, you on the other hand quote passages without any references and ;little relevance to the discussion at hand. I've tried to have you answer specifically where you believe i'm wrong but to no avail, and now you refuse to continue the discussion. So what am i to make of your position, and more importantly what do others make of your position , and what of the thousands of visitors who visit this site, perhaps many looking for answers or guidance as to the issues they face in trying to follow their Lord and Saviour.

I truly believe you have to bring some humility into your faith, accept the fact that it is just belief and that you may indeed be wrong and not everyone that disagrees with you is "walking in Darkness" and being guided by "evil Spirits". Study Christs words and his teachings, build your faith on the solid rock of his truth and understand that we are ALL fallible, sinful wretches living in an evil and suffering world, that NONE of us has the complete truth of Christs words and teachings and that we ALL can benefit from listening to others, discussing our beliefs and where we are wrong, admit that and change our views accordingly.
Ya know @Rad i been pondering alot with the Lord about lol for some dang reason ya keep running through my head when i am pondering with Him so let me try to understand you
I gotta ask ya a couple of questions so please just keep the answers simple because its the only way ill be able to follow what you are saying k??

Do you believe it is right for others to come in a homeland and try to change the ways and customs to their own..

Do you believe it is right for others to come into a homeland and to expect others to support them???

Do you believe that third world countries can integrate in the western world? Regardless of how you feel about my wording you get what i mean dont do the word salad

Do you believe that a child raised from birth in an Islamic ruled house can very well be a terroristic threat to the western world?

Do you believe the old and the disabled should be left homeless to give the outsiders who never contributed a penny be left homeless n hungry while the outsiders are house fed clothed..

Do you believe anyone should be freely allowed to go where they want with no paper work? And if so do you believe that you are partially responsible for the rapes murders n all the other chaos these unvetted people bring in? For if ya just believed in doing things in order perhaps that boy wouldn't of been beheaded regardless of where it happened its is part if the belief system..

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel

If ya can go help in another country but your neighbor is cold n hungry you are the above..

Just trying to get a feel of where exactly you are in this walk if Life

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The following is the complete statement of what I said.

Clearer now on what I said and the purpose for what I said? :)

As far as the rest, again, it depends on how you interpret His words within the context of what He was saying, and to whom He was saying it to. Which of course I've mentioned previously, and had gotten us nowhere, and why it was not part of what I wrote in this particular post.
Indeed we have discussed that at length previously Brother Nick and without going over the same ground again, alls i will say is that mine is in some ways a simple, childlike faith, i take Christs words at face value, i believe he meant what he said and said what he meant and in the main his words were spoken to ordinary people, probably most of whom couldnt read or write, i often feel that notions of context, interpretation and attempts to rationalise Christs teachings deter from the simple, basic message he was trying to convey. When Christ summed up " The Law and the Prophets" in Matthew 7 12 as "Therefore all things whatsoever you would that men would do to you, do you even so to them", he encapsulated for an illiterate people the OT teachings of the Law and the Prophets in one simple sentence. Likewise when Christ said , "When you welcome the stranger, you welcome me", "For whatever you do to the least of these my brethren you do to me", then how could i turn Christ away. Perhaps if we are indeed to accept the Kingdom of heaven as a little child would, we should accept it in a simple and trusting way, the way a young child trusts his Father in ALL things. But thats just the way i see it, i know many think differently.
I could, but if I can see them, shouldn't you be able to as well, and if not, shouldn't you be asking the one who presented their own observations to you? Better the actual source who sees x,y,z in you and your actions, then someone who does not see malice in what you are doing but also sees the negative consequences of your actions as you attempt to apply the Lord's words in your life. For it appears that they are impacting negatively everyone else but you. In thinking what our sister has said about you, if you were to see the resulting actions in others, won't you, and don't you see it as darkness because they haven't followed His words regardless of the results/impact on others? (Selah)
I suppose it wasnt the "walking in Darkness" accusation that hurt Brother Nick, it was more the implication that i was being guided by an evil spirit that had the greater impact, for i believe we are ALL walking in darkness, perhaps the only difference being, some are trying to walk towards the Light while others seem content to stay in the dark. And i know we've discussed "Consequences" before , and dont think that they dont impact me as well, as i said before i still question my actions in supporting charities feeding the Hutus that fled Rwanda after the 1994 genocide, many of whom were actively involved in the killing, but Christ said "feed the Hungry", not "Feed the hungry only if they havent.......", there are no conditions, no ifs or buts, the Good Samaritan didnt question the man in need as to why he was there, what he'd done in his life, he just saw the need and helped, and that for me is the bottom line, but the implications of my actions, the consequences of what i do, and dont do, stay with me and will do so until i die and am judged for my actions.
We can talk about it and we have, and notice we still are :) however, it still will never negate the actual battle that we are involved in. Consideration must be given to the powers & principalities that you will find spoken up in Ephesians 6 which our Sister in Christ is very aware of.

Yes we are in a constant battle with the forces of Evil, both in the world and within ourselves, as Christ illustrated in mark 7: 20-23, and the only way to combat those forces is to try to live our lives based on the firm rock of Christs truth, his commandments and his teachings.
Your use of doing as to others, tells me that the most important thing in your life is what you are sharing to help others in. I've already told you about the most important thing in my life, and what it is that I try to share, and believe that we all should be doing above all else.
But the 2 are not exclusive Brother Nick, for in doing gods will, in loving others as we love ourselves and being the Light of the World are we not "Letting out light so shine before men that they may see our good works and glorify our Father which is in heaven", our faith must not be just in words but in action , and there is no greater action than showing Gods Love and Compassion to those in need in this suffering world. And if i might just add, in all humility, what message are we sharing to others about our faith, is that message based on Christs teachings or is it clouded by our prejudices and ideologies. This is why i believe these boards are so important, for they give us the chance to explore our faith with others, discuss what we believe and why we believe it and hopefully deepen our understanding of what it means to be a follower of Christ in an evil and suffering world. This is why Humility is so important in our faith, the understanding that what we have are just beliefs, and that if those beliefs are shown to be wrong them we must be humble enough to be willing to change them.
Sadly, I fail at it more often than I’d like, so I don’t hold it against you or anyone else for doing what one believes is right through ones understanding of the word of God, even if the results are less than ideal.
We ALL fail brother Nick, for that is the nature of sinful man, but we try, we try to do what we believe Christ asks of us, and as long as we do so in truth, Love and humility, then even if the results are negative, we have given our best, and that i believe is all that Christ asks of any of us.

With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick

Steve.

As always Brother Steve.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Ya know @Rad i been pondering alot with the Lord about lol for some dang reason ya keep running through my head when i am pondering with Him so let me try to understand you
I gotta ask ya a couple of questions so please just keep the answers simple because its the only way ill be able to follow what you are saying k??

Do you believe it is right for others to come in a homeland and try to change the ways and customs to their own..

Do you believe it is right for others to come into a homeland and to expect others to support them???

Do you believe that third world countries can integrate in the western world? Regardless of how you feel about my wording you get what i mean dont do the word salad

Do you believe that a child raised from birth in an Islamic ruled house can very well be a terroristic threat to the western world?

Do you believe the old and the disabled should be left homeless to give the outsiders who never contributed a penny be left homeless n hungry while the outsiders are house fed clothed..

Do you believe anyone should be freely allowed to go where they want with no paper work? And if so do you believe that you are partially responsible for the rapes murders n all the other chaos these unvetted people bring in? For if ya just believed in doing things in order perhaps that boy wouldn't of been beheaded regardless of where it happened its is part if the belief system..

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel

If ya can go help in another country but your neighbor is cold n hungry you are the above..

Just trying to get a feel of where exactly you are in this walk if Life

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Hi Twistie, yes i do sometimes have that effect on people, and often for the wrong reasons,.......you raise some very deep and reflective questions, questions that need thought, prayer and the study of Christs teachings before i answer them, so please bear with me, and i hope i'm not giving you too many problems "running through your head" :)
 
Hi Twistie, yes i do sometimes have that effect on people, and often for the wrong reasons,.......you raise some very deep and reflective questions, questions that need thought, prayer and the study of Christs teachings before i answer them, so please bear with me, and i hope i'm not giving you too many problems "running through your head" :)
Naw no problem at all people run through my head when they perplex me i cant see you as an evil figure that dont care if your neighbors are being tortured and you can hear them screaming that you would sit n listen n not react at all..i believe that you along with a few others i have encountered just wear your heart on your sleeve as i did as a youngin n it was my nanny that warned me the road to hell is paved with good intentions and wearing that heart in my n sleeve will cause nothing but pain n disappointment to me n she was so so right as i have seen as i grew..

They are basically yes n not there is no grey area please dont word salad..let your yes be yes and your no be no anything else is of satan for it is written

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