Who was Jesus praying to?

[Dylan569]

"All Christians believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. If you do not believe this—that is, if you have concluded that the doctrine of the Trinity is not true—you are not a Christian at all. You are, in fact, a heretic. Those words may sound harsh, but they represent the judgment of the Christian church across the centuries. What is the Trinity? Christians in every land unite in proclaiming that our God eternally exists as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Those who deny that truth place themselves outside the pale of Christian orthodoxy."

Understanding the Trinity: Doctrine of God in Three Persons

It is nearly impossible to grasp and understand the doctrine of the Trinity and God in three persons. However, the Bible can help us understand what the trinity is and how we can apply it to Christian living.

www.christianity.com

 

[Daring]

Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

 

[Bill]

Do you what it means " To pray ? " please tell me your version

 

[Bill]

Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

What does praying mean to you?

 

[Bill]

Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Share with us what you think

 

[Daring]

Your joking! Tell us your revelation!

 

[Dylan569]

Let's not feed the trolls.

Do not answer a fool as his folly deserves, or you will grow like him yourself; answer a fool as his folly deserves, or he will think himself wise. (Prov 26:4-5, REB)

 

[Daring]

Tell us your revelation!
Or is it for all you 'trolls'.

 

[B-A-C]

I'm not sure having half a dozen threads about the same subject is very good internet etiquette, In any case..
all of your threads follow the same premise... 3 persons = three Gods. Trinitarians do not believe that.
Three persons = 1 God. As soon as you try to explain this as polytheism.. it's no longer a trinitarian doctrines
and doesn't apply.

 

[B-A-C]

Exod 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exod 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.
Exod 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
Exod 20:5 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,

God says there is only one God. You can only worship that God. There is no other.

.. but in the Bible, it also says...

1. Did Anyone Worship Jesus in the Bible?​

Yes. Multiple times. The Greek word often translated as "worship" is προσκυνέω (proskyneō), which means to bow down, pay homage, or worship. Here are some examples:

Before the Resurrection:​

• Matthew 2:11 – The Magi "fell down and worshiped Him" (Jesus as a child).
• Matthew 14:33 – After Jesus walked on water, "those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, 'You are certainly God’s Son!'"
• John 9:38 – The man healed of blindness said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped Him.

After the Resurrection:​

• Matthew 28:9 – The women "took hold of His feet and worshiped Him."
• Matthew 28:17 – The disciples "worshiped Him; but some were doubtful."

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2. Did Angels Worship Jesus?​

Yes. Hebrews 1:6 is crystal clear:

“And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, ‘And let all the angels of God worship Him.’” (NASB 1995)

This is a direct command from the Father regarding the Son. Angels, who are holy and do not worship anyone but God, are told to worship Jesus—this is a powerful affirmation of His divinity.

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3. Are Believers Told to Worship Jesus?​

While there’s no single verse that says “you must worship Jesus,” the pattern of worship directed toward Him is consistent and accepted in the New Testament:

• Philippians 2:10–11 – “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow... and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
• Revelation 5:12–14 – Jesus (the Lamb) receives worship alongside the Father. All creation shared between the Father and the Son.

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4. Would Angels Worship a False God?​

Absolutely not. Revelation 22:8–9 shows that even when John tries to worship an angel, the angel rebukes him:

“Do not do that; I am a fellow servant... Worship God.”

So if angels worship Jesus, it must be because He is God.

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Conclusion​

Exodus 20 commands worship of one God, and the New Testament shows that Jesus is worshiped—by angels, by humans, and in heaven—without rebuke. This only makes sense if Jesus is fully divine, part of the one God revealed in three Persons.

 

[B-A-C]

The name of this website is called Talk"Jesus".. Jesus. It's a Christian website. Christian.

Who is the Christ? Jesus.. not the Father.. not the Holy Spirit. The word Christian comes from "Christ".
We are followers of Jesus.. we worship Him as the true God.

While we sometimes talk about the Father and the Holy Spirit (we certainly do not deny they are God)
then primary focus here is Jesus. The website isn't called TalkFather or TalkSpirit... it's talkJesus.

Why so much adoration and veneration for Jesus? Why do we worship Him.... not because He is our savior, or redeemer,
(He is those things) but if He was only those things alone.. we could not worship Him. We can only worship Him if He is God.

 

[Daring]

Exod 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exod 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.
Exod 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
Exod 20:5 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,

God says there is only one God. You can only worship that God. There is no other.

.. but in the Bible, it also says...

1. Did Anyone Worship Jesus in the Bible?​

Yes. Multiple times. The Greek word often translated as "worship" is προσκυνέω (proskyneō), which means to bow down, pay homage, or worship. Here are some examples:

Before the Resurrection:​

• Matthew 2:11 – The Magi "fell down and worshiped Him" (Jesus as a child).
• Matthew 14:33 – After Jesus walked on water, "those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, 'You are certainly God’s Son!'"
• John 9:38 – The man healed of blindness said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped Him.

After the Resurrection:​

• Matthew 28:9 – The women "took hold of His feet and worshiped Him."
• Matthew 28:17 – The disciples "worshiped Him; but some were doubtful."

---

2. Did Angels Worship Jesus?​

Yes. Hebrews 1:6 is crystal clear:


This is a direct command from the Father regarding the Son. Angels, who are holy and do not worship anyone but God, are told to worship Jesus—this is a powerful affirmation of His divinity.

---

3. Are Believers Told to Worship Jesus?​

While there’s no single verse that says “you must worship Jesus,” the pattern of worship directed toward Him is consistent and accepted in the New Testament:

• Philippians 2:10–11 – “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow... and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
• Revelation 5:12–14 – Jesus (the Lamb) receives worship alongside the Father. All creation shared between the Father and the Son.

---

4. Would Angels Worship a False God?​

Absolutely not. Revelation 22:8–9 shows that even when John tries to worship an angel, the angel rebukes him:


So if angels worship Jesus, it must be because He is God.

---

Conclusion​

Exodus 20 commands worship of one God, and the New Testament shows that Jesus is worshiped—by angels, by humans, and in heaven—without rebuke. This only makes sense if Jesus is fully divine, part of the one God revealed in three Persons.

Mistranslation.

 

[Daring]

The name of this website is called Talk"Jesus".. Jesus. It's a Christian website. Christian.

Who is the Christ? Jesus.. not the Father.. not the Holy Spirit. The word Christian comes from "Christ".
We are followers of Jesus.. we worship Him as the true God.

While we sometimes talk about the Father and the Holy Spirit (we certainly do not deny they are God)
then primary focus here is Jesus. The website isn't called TalkFather or TalkSpirit... it's talkJesus.

Why so much adoration and veneration for Jesus? Why do we worship Him.... not because He is our savior, or redeemer,
(He is those things) but if He was only those things alone.. we could not worship Him. We can only worship Him if He is God.

THEN, who is Jesus GOD?

 

[Daring]

Exod 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
Exod 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.
Exod 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
Exod 20:5 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,

God says there is only one God. You can only worship that God. There is no other.

.. but in the Bible, it also says...

1. Did Anyone Worship Jesus in the Bible?​

Yes. Multiple times. The Greek word often translated as "worship" is προσκυνέω (proskyneō), which means to bow down, pay homage, or worship. Here are some examples:

Before the Resurrection:​

• Matthew 2:11 – The Magi "fell down and worshiped Him" (Jesus as a child).
• Matthew 14:33 – After Jesus walked on water, "those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, 'You are certainly God’s Son!'"
• John 9:38 – The man healed of blindness said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped Him.

After the Resurrection:​

• Matthew 28:9 – The women "took hold of His feet and worshiped Him."
• Matthew 28:17 – The disciples "worshiped Him; but some were doubtful."

---

2. Did Angels Worship Jesus?​

Yes. Hebrews 1:6 is crystal clear:


This is a direct command from the Father regarding the Son. Angels, who are holy and do not worship anyone but God, are told to worship Jesus—this is a powerful affirmation of His divinity.

---

3. Are Believers Told to Worship Jesus?​

While there’s no single verse that says “you must worship Jesus,” the pattern of worship directed toward Him is consistent and accepted in the New Testament:

• Philippians 2:10–11 – “At the name of Jesus every knee will bow... and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
• Revelation 5:12–14 – Jesus (the Lamb) receives worship alongside the Father. All creation shared between the Father and the Son.

---

4. Would Angels Worship a False God?​

Absolutely not. Revelation 22:8–9 shows that even when John tries to worship an angel, the angel rebukes him:


So if angels worship Jesus, it must be because He is God.

---

Conclusion​

Exodus 20 commands worship of one God, and the New Testament shows that Jesus is worshiped—by angels, by humans, and in heaven—without rebuke. This only makes sense if Jesus is fully divine, part of the one God revealed in three Persons.

proskuneó: To worship, to bow down, to prostrate oneself
Original Word: προσκυνέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: proskuneó
Pronunciation: pros-koo-NEH-oh
Phonetic Spelling: (pros-koo-neh'-o)
KJV: worship
NASB: worship, worshiped, bowed down before, bow down, bow down before, bowed down, bowing before
Word Origin: [from G4314 (πρός - against) and a probable derivative of G2965 (κύων - dogs) (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand)]

1. to fawn or crouch to
2. to fall face down (prostrate) in adoration
3. a physical act of lowering oneself in humble submission with an attitude of utmost adoration or respect
{literally or figuratively}

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
worship.
From pros and a probable derivative of kuon (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e. (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore) -- worship.


Done to KINGS as well a God.

 

[Daring]

I'm not sure having half a dozen threads about the same subject is very good internet etiquette, In any case..
all of your threads follow the same premise... 3 persons = three Gods. Trinitarians do not believe that.
Three persons = 1 God. As soon as you try to explain this as polytheism.. it's no longer a trinitarian doctrines
and doesn't apply.

The Delusion of Trinitarians- the clergy thinking that their Fable would not be considered Polytheism...

 

[Daring]

Matt 13:15- He said to them, But who do you say that I am?
16- Simon Peter replied, You are the Christ, the son of the living God.
17- And Jesus answered him, Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.

Notice Peter didn't say "God" or "Part of the Holy Trinity" or "Godman"?
And that "I am" was not being used as a Name of God?

The 'Trinity' is NOWHERE in the Bible, being a fabricated word for a fabricated dogma!

 

[B-A-C]

Done to KINGS as well a God.

Not be believers in the Bible. Why were Shadrach and Meshach thrown into the fiery furnace? Why was Daniel thrown into the Lions den?
Why will Christains be beheaded during the tribulation.

 

[Daring]

But if TOLD by God to bow to someone ELSE????

 

[Daring]

Matt 14:31- Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, O man of little faith, why did you doubt?
32- And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased.
33- And those in the boat worshiped
[ Grk "proskunio" meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand, to fawn or crouch to literally or figuratively prostrate oneself in homage/do reverence to, adore] him, saying, Truly you are the son of God.

Notice they didn't say anything like "Truly you are God!" or "Truly you are God-the-Son"?
Fascinating account! It makes one think of just what we COULD be capable of IF not hampered by fear and some lack in our faith!

 

[Daring]

Matt 14:35- And when the men of that place recognized him, they sent round to all that region and brought to him all that were sick,
36- and besought him that they might only touch the fringe of his garment; and as many as touched it were made well.

The Power - God's holy spirit - radiated from Jesus!