Something ain’t right, I’m getting Spook, I believe something get ready to happen

[PloughBoy]

Haggai 2:6 NASB

My Spirit remains in your midst; do not fear!’ 6For this is what the LORDof armies says: ‘Once more [h]in a little while, I am going to shake the heavens and the earth, the seaalso and the dry land. 7I will shakeall the nations; and Haggai 2 New American Standard Biblethey will comewith the wealth of all nations, and I will fill this house with glory,’ saysthe LORD of armies. 8‘The silver is Mine and the gold is Mine,’ declares the LORD of armies.9‘The latter glory of this house will be greater than the former,’ saysthe LORD of armies, ‘and in thisplace I will give peace,’ declaresthe LORD of armies.”

 

[PloughBoy]

Hebrews 12:26 NASB

American Standard Version
whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more will I make to tremble not the earth only, but also the heaven.

I do not like feeling like this how patterns of Scripture forms in my path, “Homiletically arranged “ and not planned. Everything lines up. I do not like it,

Like going to doctor for a injury or sickness, oh this is not going to hurt, tell that to a little child, who have identified “White Coats” and The smell of “Alcohol” with “Needles”

 

[Luminary]

Hebrews 12:26 NASB

American Standard Version
whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more will I make to tremble not the earth only, but also the heaven.

I do not like feeling like this how patterns of Scripture forms in my path, “Homiletically arranged “ and not planned. Everything lines up. I do not like it,

Like going to doctor for a injury or sickness, oh this is not going to hurt, tell that to a little child, who have identified “White Coats” and The smell of “Alcohol” with “Needles

1 John 4:18
“There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.”

So…..

Psalm 23:4
“Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.”

Psalm27:1
“The LORD is my light and my salvation— whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid?”

Psalm 34: 4-6
“I sought the LORD, and He answered me, And delivered me from all my fears.
They looked to Him and were radiant, And their faces will never be ashamed. This poor man cried, and the LORD heard him, And saved him out of all his troubles….”

Psalm 46:1-7
“God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change, And though the mountains slip into the heart of the sea;
Though its waters roar and foam, Though the mountains quake at its swelling pride. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, The holy dwelling places of the Most High.
God is in the midst of her, she will not be moved; God will help her when morning dawns. The nations made an uproar, the kingdoms tottered; He raised His voice, the earth melted. The LORD of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our stronghold.!!!”

Psalm 91:4-6
“He will cover you with His pinions,
And under His wings you may seek refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and bulwark. You will not be afraid of the terror by night, Or of the arrow that flies by day; Of the pestilence that stalks in darkness,Or of the destruction that lays waste at noon.”

Isaiah 35:4
“Be strong, do not fear; your God will come, he will come with vengeance; with divine retribution he will come to save you.”

Isaiah 41:13
“For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you”

John 14:27
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.”


Keep your Faith close!!! For by your Faith, it is done!!!

 

[PloughBoy]

1 John 4:18
“There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.”

So…..

Psalm 23:4
“Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.”

Psalm27:1
“The LORD is my light and my salvation— whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid?”

Psalm 34: 4-6
“I sought the LORD, and He answered me, And delivered me from all my fears.
They looked to Him and were radiant, And their faces will never be ashamed. This poor man cried, and the LORD heard him, And saved him out of all his troubles….”

Psalm 46:1-7
“God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change, And though the mountains slip into the heart of the sea;
Though its waters roar and foam, Though the mountains quake at its swelling pride. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, The holy dwelling places of the Most High.
God is in the midst of her, she will not be moved; God will help her when morning dawns. The nations made an uproar, the kingdoms tottered; He raised His voice, the earth melted. The LORD of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our stronghold.!!!”

Psalm 91:4-6
“He will cover you with His pinions,
And under His wings you may seek refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and bulwark. You will not be afraid of the terror by night, Or of the arrow that flies by day; Of the pestilence that stalks in darkness,Or of the destruction that lays waste at noon.”

Isaiah 35:4
“Be strong, do not fear; your God will come, he will come with vengeance; with divine retribution he will come to save you.”

Isaiah 41:13
“For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you”

John 14:27
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.”


Keep your Faith close!!! For by your Faith, it is done!!!

Oh, yea I understand, i know all those scriptures by heart, and The 23 division of Psalms I have repeated almost everyday for over 44 years, sometimes Twice a day. And. “Our Father which are in Heaven”. I learn the 23 division of Psalms when I was “Boy Scout”. I was so impressed by a kid on the way it sound, I was determined to learn and express it from the deepest of my very soul. And everyday when I drove my children to school, I would say; repeat after me. Just the other day, I text the youngest girl who is 32, and said do you remember, “Repeat after me”. She said yes.

It sounded just like music as we used to repeat in the car. For Truly It is A “Song”!

The Fear I am referring to in this thread is “a Godly Fear” not a ungodly fear.

And thanks for listing the different “Songs” of The Bible. For Godly fear is always a Healthy Fear.

For The Beginning of Wisdom is Fearing GOD.

Thank you God for Teaching me your fear.

We are not to fear man! The Thief at night, the rapist who rapes us, The Drug addict who robs us, The Gun man who open fires at us, The Traders who pillages our villages, The Armies who invaded our lands, we are commanded to fear no man or woman, but I have fail, I do fear my wife real fear and her organization.

But everyday, I try my best to rely on GOD, Just like Jesus who feared, what he was going to have to go through, but still Trusted his father.

American Standard Version
Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear,”

I am so glad I read my Bibles over and over again without ceasing every dot and title, and the whole translated text of early copyrights that now are out of print but are recorded in my brain and my very being, because all these modern day translations since the late 1980s play with word issues to relax the thought even dime store lexicon internet partially swaying the “TRUTH”,for This Is The Adversary’s world, [kingdom] Even The Modern day Dictionaries and Lexicons. For Crafty He Is, And Highly Schooled by his creator!

Oh, yes he is top dog, at The Top of His Game. He knows his time is near.

For This World, is for sure “The Training Fields. For “Sons of The LIVING GOD”!

 

[PloughBoy]

Those are not tears of joy! But I am laughing to keep from crying, a old an Ancient way of expressing.

Shalom

 

[Luminary]

Oh, yea I understand, i know all those scriptures by heart, and The 23 division of Psalms I have repeated almost everyday for over 44 years, sometimes Twice a day. And. “Our Father which are in Heaven”. I learn the 23 division of Psalms when I was “Boy Scout”. I was so impressed by a kid on the way it sound, I was determined to learn and express it from the deepest of my very soul. And everyday when I drove my children to school, I would say; repeat after me. Just the other day, I text the youngest girl who is 32, and said do you remember, “Repeat after me”. She said yes.

It sounded just like music as we used to repeat in the car. For Truly It is A “Song”!

The Fear I am referring to in this thread is “a Godly Fear” not a ungodly fear.

And thanks for listing the different “Songs” of The Bible. For Godly fear is always a Healthy Fear.

For The Beginning of Wisdom is Fearing GOD.

Thank you God for Teaching me your fear.

We are not to fear man! The Thief at night, the rapist who rapes us, The Drug addict who robs us, The Gun man who open fires at us, The Traders who pillages our villages, The Armies who invaded our lands, we are commanded to fear no man or woman, but I have fail, I do fear my wife real fear and her organization.

But everyday, I try my best to rely on GOD, Just like Jesus who feared, what he was going to have to go through, but still Trusted his father.

American Standard Version
Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear,”

I am so glad I read my Bibles over and over again without ceasing every dot and title, and the whole translated text of early copyrights that now are out of print but are recorded in my brain and my very being, because all these modern day translations since the late 1980s play with word issues to relax the thought even dime store lexicon internet partially swaying the “TRUTH”,for This Is The Adversary’s world, [kingdom] Even The Modern day Dictionaries and Lexicons. For Crafty He Is, And Highly Schooled by his creator!

Oh, yes he is top dog, at The Top of His Game. He knows his time is near.

For This World, is for sure “The Training Fields. For “Sons of The LIVING GOD”!

Your words Speak against you. And show you do not understand!

There is >No fear< in >Perfect Love. < ……Memorizing scripture does nothing without using it!

There is no room to be spooked. No room, for Any fear, as if walking into a doctors office to face men in white coats with needles…

Nor of the Heaven or the Earth being shaken! (For you quoted it!) And I “reminded” you that….

“God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change, And though the mountains slip into the heart of the sea;
Though its waters roar and foam, Though the mountains quake at its swelling pride. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, The holy dwelling places of the Most High.
God is in the midst of her, she will not be moved; God will help her when morning dawns. The nations made an uproar, the kingdoms tottered; He raised His voice, the earth melted. The LORD of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our stronghold.!!!”
In It’s physical, and it’s spiritual!

That is not a godly fear that you express either way!!! That is fear of things to come; that are already here! Those things you cover with your laughter, as it’s a Human defense mechanism, that is as old as our Human Species….. Hence my reminder! And Encouragement

 

[PloughBoy]

Your words Speak against you. And show you do not understand!

There is >No fear< in >Perfect Love. < ……Memorizing scripture does nothing without using it!

There is no room to be spooked. No room, for Any fear, as if walking into a doctors office to face men in white coats with needles…

Nor of the Heaven or the Earth being shaken! (For you quoted it!) And I “reminded” you that….

“God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change, And though the mountains slip into the heart of the sea;
Though its waters roar and foam, Though the mountains quake at its swelling pride. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, The holy dwelling places of the Most High.
God is in the midst of her, she will not be moved; God will help her when morning dawns. The nations made an uproar, the kingdoms tottered; He raised His voice, the earth melted. The LORD of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our stronghold.!!!”
In It’s physical, and it’s spiritual!

That is not a godly fear that you express either way!!! That is fear of things to come; that are already here! Those things you cover with your laughter, as it’s a Human defense mechanism, that is as old as our Human Species….. Hence my reminder! And Encouragement

Sorry if I am not worldly and do not conform to the wisdom of this world but I am completely different creature from another, only waiting for my departure for I know I am a paradox to many a complete stranger that has strange an unearthly ways that is uncommon to worldly creatures. So must if you please, excuse my demeanor, For I really no not belong here, So I do have different ways, and I do not conform to earthly ways by a given command, by my master, for I am a slave right now, while on planet earth, but wait until I get Home to my own Country. But I do respect you, and your ways, but I cannot be conform to your ways, even if I tried. And if I do, my master will not take it kindly. And does not mind putting that whip to my back, he calls it; “Scourging” which is a display of His Love to me.

So, I will pass on the interpretation of your Description concerning The Biblical Text in question.

Shalom, sir

New American Standard Bible
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

 

[PloughBoy]

Your words Speak against you. And show you do not understand!

There is >No fear< in >Perfect Love. < ……Memorizing scripture does nothing without using it!

There is no room to be spooked. No room, for Any fear, as if walking into a doctors office to face men in white coats with needles…

Nor of the Heaven or the Earth being shaken! (For you quoted it!) And I “reminded” you that….

“God is our refuge and strength, A very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change, And though the mountains slip into the heart of the sea;
Though its waters roar and foam, Though the mountains quake at its swelling pride. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, The holy dwelling places of the Most High.
God is in the midst of her, she will not be moved; God will help her when morning dawns. The nations made an uproar, the kingdoms tottered; He raised His voice, the earth melted. The LORD of hosts is with us; The God of Jacob is our stronghold.!!!”
In It’s physical, and it’s spiritual!

That is not a godly fear that you express either way!!! That is fear of things to come; that are already here! Those things you cover with your laughter, as it’s a Human defense mechanism, that is as old as our Human Species….. Hence my reminder! And Encouragement

PS. Have ever been “Scourge so Severely” by The FATHER?

Have you been through “The Dark Night of The Soul” and Not according to a writer of a Book! And if You have how many years did you go through! And Travel through tell me what Died, and what took New Life!

Have you ever experience a “Beatific Vision” clear as Pure Gold and Felt The Breeze blow across your face and and comment the movement of The Sway of Your Arms and The Gait of The moment of Your Steps. Have you ever experienced a “Theophany” in pure color while your eyes are wide Open and The Blood Run Down His face and call you by Name with Tears in His eyes?

And you cried out, No LORD do not Die for Me! Do not Please, die for me!

I am a slave, bought and purchase and own by another, and I do not belong to myself. I am one Who lives in Bondage. For I am not a Servant for I am a Slave! Own by my Master and LORD!

I am different and I also fear The Discipline of My LORD, who is The SON of The GOD ALMIGHTY!

If you do not Fear GOD, that is your faith and I do not Criticize you or judge you concerning your faith and what you believe and I will not force my belief down your throat,

Like I have said before to others whether you are a Jew, Gentile or Greek, Jungle witch doctor, Roman Catholic, “LBGTQ” I have Absolutelynothing against and mean you no harm and I will not press my faith down your throat or call your belief wrong!

I do not hate and no not Discriminate against any,

I love the Witch doctor just as much I love all 6.5 Billion Christian’s scattered throughout the World! And I have Absolutely no Anger or Hatred against any!

For I am not The Judge

 

[Luminary]

Sorry if I am not worldly and do not conform to the wisdom of this world but I am completely different creature from another, only waiting for my departure for I know I am a paradox to many a complete stranger that has strange an unearthly ways that is uncommon to worldly creatures. So must if you please, excuse my demeanor, For I really no not belong here, So I do have different ways, and I do not conform to earthly ways by a given command, by my master, for I am a slave right now, while on planet earth, but wait until I get Home to my own Country. But I do respect you, and your ways, but I cannot be conform to your ways, even if I tried. And if I do, my master will not take it kindly. And does not mind putting that whip to my back, he calls it; “Scourging” which is a display of His Love to me.

So, I will pass on the interpretation of your Description concerning The Biblical Text in question.

Shalom, sir

New American Standard Bible
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

You are expressing the ways of the world, even if you do not recognize it!

It is one thing to know the God of the Scriptures. To read them and know it by memory. And Quite another to know that God by Spirit(or experience!).

You Speak of a God from memory! Of the Mind! Have not only said it, personally, but have showed it! For the Fear of our God, The God of A,I, &J, The I Am, is a God of Love; Fear for Only those who Face Punishment!!! For we are saved through our troubles. Refined through them! This is not a matter of interpretation. This is seeing things for what and how they are. Living it my friend! And need no interpretation. For it speaks for itself. The same as Gods word. And many would know this, if they stop speaking for him, and let him speak for himself! So again, I judge you Not, but you are held against His word, as that is Our Standard. Of no private interpretation!!! For we Judge ourself, against it, and are either justified already, or condemned. And even if condemned, simply recognize it, and change it. That is ALL!!!! For that is what Love Does!!!! The punishment, is the state of falling short of it already.

So even if this is not our permanent home, we are right where we need to be. Because we are needed here. So by you saying what you are….waiting to be taken home, are forfeiting your job, this stops your hands by being used by him. Always your choice! But you were called to Work!!!! So it it really any wonder why you are streaming scripture together like you are?

Why does this spook you so? Especially knowing the scriptures as you do?

 

[PloughBoy]

You are expressing the ways of the world, even if you do not recognize it!

It is one thing to know the God of the Scriptures. To read them and know it by memory. And Quite another to know that God by Spirit(or experience!).

You Speak of a God from memory! Of the Mind! Have not only said it, personally, but have showed it! For the Fear of our God, The God of A,I, &J, The I Am, is a God of Love; Fear for Only those who Face Punishment!!! For we are saved through our troubles. Refined through them! This is not a matter of interpretation. This is seeing things for what and how they are. Living it my friend! And need no interpretation. For it speaks for itself. The same as Gods word. And many would know this, if they stop speaking for him, and let him speak for himself! So again, I judge you Not, but you are held against His word, as that is Our Standard. Of no private interpretation!!! For we Judge ourself, against it, and are either justified already, or condemned. And even if condemned, simply recognize it, and change it. That is ALL!!!! For that is what Love Does!!!! The punishment, is the state of falling short of it already.

So even if this is not our permanent home, we are right where we need to be. Because we are needed here. So by you saying what you are….waiting to be taken home, are forfeiting your job, this stops your hands by being used by him. Always your choice! But you were called to Work!!!! So it it really any wonder why you are streaming scripture together like you are?

Why does this spook you so? Especially knowing the scriptures as you do?

Well I sure ain’t looking for GOD that for sure.

And I got All I need and content. But just maybe it is because we have completely different definitions of words and terms, Idioms and vernacular and culture differences.

For I speak”Calvinese” with a hint of Ghetto vernacular with a “Catholic” flair.
And when you add “Theological Terminologies “ in The form of “Theology Proper” with all that in The Gumbo, I have become nothing but a barbarian unto The untrained ear, unless that person possesses The Gift of “Languges”.

So sir I do see your great Dilemma, that you perceive me as some pagan want to be. For you do know already I am not seeking GOD nor was I looking for HIM or his Son. And I am sure ain’t no Christian. I love all people and do not hate anybody I am not Prejudice concerning whom I love. And I do not judge people and try to ram my belief down another’s throat with a homemade “RamRod”, Like I’m GOD! Who knows everything.

So Shalom, Sir, I hope you find what ever you looking for.

 

[Br. Bear]

@PloughBoy
Greetings,

Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear,”

the word used for 'fear/godly fear' does not necessarily convey to us the meaning in which it was intended and therefore, using it to support something we do might also not be correct in it's meaning

εὐλαβείας
(eulabeias)

from what i understand, you are familiar with Koine Greek? How do we understand this word in the sentence and context of what we read, please?

I think i understand what you have tried to express in your posts but i also understand what fellow Member @Luminary has tried to express.

a study on this word and it's root(s) and connections is really quite interesting when we keep in mind the idea of the verse we are looking at.

Also interesting that in Hebrews 12:28 we have 'reverence' and (godly) fear but the word used for 'fear' is not the same word... the word used for 'reverence' is the same one used in the passage you supplied. εὐλαβείας

May i suggest it is/was more a 'glorifying God and acknowledgement of His will shall be done, because of His glory', rather than a fear for God or what was going to happen. A big difference, yes?


Bless you ....><>

 

[PloughBoy]

@PloughBoy
Greetings,


the word used for 'fear/godly fear' does not necessarily convey to us the meaning in which it was intended and therefore, using it to support something we do might also not be correct in it's meaning

εὐλαβείας
(eulabeias)

from what i understand, you are familiar with Koine Greek? How do we understand this word in the sentence and context of what we read, please?

I think i understand what you have tried to express in your posts but i also understand what fellow Member @Luminary has tried to express.

a study on this word and it's root(s) and connections is really quite interesting when we keep in mind the idea of the verse we are looking at.

Also interesting that in Hebrews 12:28 we have 'reverence' and (godly) fear but the word used for 'fear' is not the same word... the word used for 'reverence' is the same one used in the passage you supplied. εὐλαβείας

May i suggest it is/was more a 'glorifying God and acknowledgement of His will shall be done, because of His glory', rather than a fear for God or what was going to happen. A big difference, yes?


Bless you ....><>

I understand and respect another’s belief whether, like I have said in the past, I live in Hope, in what I believe. And others live in Their Faith and Hope, I Criticize, them not. No matter who they may believe, or how they believe. I have no fight with them, If one ask me concerning my belief and I can speak on my belief so can they, for I am consider by many to be a “Calvinist” ok. I have no problem with them. But I will not judge them in what they believe in. I can understand if they fall in the Category of a believing “Arminian”, Semi-Arminian, Pelagianism, Semi-Pelagian, or “Calvinistic” in Religious or Theological Thought Patterns. But I do not Criticized or Think bad against them in any form. for Even an Atheist has a belief,,,

I just get weary when so many launch attacks against me and place words that I have said and those words have never came out of my mouth, with a type of vengeance they have…when I testify about my faith my hope that lies within me. I am just a mere “Witness” what my GOD in whom I believe has done for me and me alone. that’s all a “Witness” about what he has Done to me. I cannot testified what he has done for another. They have their own Testimony. Have many of us forgotten about “Testimony services” on Sunday night services, no entertainment about it. No programs, we did Testimonies, we testified about how we had treated others wrong and how we had sin, that week against another brother or sister in Christ and how we “Grieved the Spirit of GOD” and how our conscious convicted us for lying, stealing, Gossiping, behind another’s back! I remember those Services, you get up start singing those songs and others join in crying .

“it is not My Brother nor My Sister LORD, but it is me O’LORD Standing In The Need if Prayer”

No matter what another has done to me, I stand Guilty, Oh Lord in The Need Of Prayer

No Matter What my father or mother has done to me, I am the one That is Guilty, and standing in The need of Prayer O’ Lord hear my prayer.”

No matter what My Wife or Husband has done to me, I stand Guilty O’LORD in the need of Prayer!
And all the congregation of GOD, would be crying, The Sinners who have come to services that night, be crying too. And repenting right there on Their knees, confessing their sins. And not ashamed among the Congregation of GOD! Confessing their sins.
I remember those days when I was young. Those old women start tapping their feet, and start humming “That Old Ship of Zion” you better get on Board”!

I do not know what they call this stuff they be doing to day,

But I do understand those old hymns;

“Give me that old time Religion, It was good enough for Paul And Silas and it is good enough for me”!

So those do not be angry with me, it is That Old Time Religion” in me! And old age is Creeping in. I am nothing but a old man, getting older and senile and waiting on The Trumpet Sound, old folks used to say, “Gabriel, Blow Your Horn”

PS. You see, I am having Religious flash back of My Younger years. Now you think,,,what could I ever Think about, the Future? my thoughts is beyond Heaven, Heaven will pass away, and be no more, it is a created place

My old mind has travel beyond that, My Mind is Roaming in “Eternity” now how is that possible, I do not know. But I do know with men, things are impossible but with GOD All Things are Possible.
I know that much.

So you call me [“Referring to The Masses] “Senile” if you want too, I don’t Mind.

And I do not take it as a Offensive term regarding, when directed at me. And if I slip, concerning any, pay this old man no mind.
Now you can laugh if you want to,,,but I am telling the Truth and I Do Not Have on Makeup to cover The Truth.


I know one thing I cannot wait to leave this world.

In the mind of Jesus; “How Long Will I be in This Faithless Generation”

Let us run this race with Patience
For let Patience have its perfect work in us.
“For Tribulations worketh Patience”

[For without Tribulations There Cannot Be “The Patience’s Work]”

 

[PloughBoy]

Like I said something is not right, like not normal. As The World turns but unprecedented happens that seems frightening as if Restrains are slowly being remove, and Certain Prophecies, are clearly coming to be. And many cannot see it. And that is frightening.

 

[PloughBoy]

Eerdmans and Woke Christian Publishers - CultureWatch

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[PloughBoy]

Leader of Mexican Church With 5 Million Worldwide Followers Convicted of Sexually Assaulting and Trafficking Minors

Considered the "apostle" of Jesus Christ who could lead worshippers to salvation, he faces 16 years in prison.

www.charismanews.com

 

[Luminary]

Well I sure ain’t looking for GOD that for sure.

And I got All I need and content. But just maybe it is because we have completely different definitions of words and terms, Idioms and vernacular and culture differences.

For I speak”Calvinese” with a hint of Ghetto vernacular with a “Catholic” flair.
And when you add “Theological Terminologies “ in The form of “Theology Proper” with all that in The Gumbo, I have become nothing but a barbarian unto The untrained ear, unless that person possesses The Gift of “Languges”.

So sir I do see your great Dilemma, that you perceive me as some pagan want to be. For you do know already I am not seeking GOD nor was I looking for HIM or his Son. And I am sure ain’t no Christian. I love all people and do not hate anybody I am not Prejudice concerning whom I love. And I do not judge people and try to ram my belief down another’s throat with a homemade “RamRod”, Like I’m GOD! Who knows everything.

So Shalom, Sir, I hope you find what ever you looking for.

We were told to seek!

Deuteronomy 4:29 – “But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.”

1 Chronicles 28:9 – “As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a loyal heart and with a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will cast you off forever.”

James 4:8 – ” Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.”

Luke 11:9-10 – “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.”

Our God, which goes by many names, and found under many titles and labels, only speaks one language, and that is the language of the Spirit. And can only be heard with ears than can understand, and eyes that can perceive! For It is not an “audible” language. For it is the language of the the Heart and soul! Neither is it emotions, but will produce them; just as an audible language will!

You speak with the wisdom of the world! As you talk of theological concepts. This is not a matter of belief! Nor of interpretation! This is Living with a God most present, relationshiping!!!!

This is not about what you label yourself as. But about -being- a Child of God!

If you do not look for him, you will not find him! He found you where you were, and called you to a work!
God’s Fellow Workers
(Hebrews 5:11–14)

1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly—as infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for solid food. In fact, you are still not ready, 3for you are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and dissension among you, are you not worldly? Are you not walking in the way of man? 4For when one of you says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men?

5What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, as the Lord has assigned to each his role. 6I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8He who plants and he who waters are one in purpose,a and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.

Christ Our Foundation
(Isaiah 28:14–22; Ephesians 2:19–22; 1 Peter 2:1–8)

10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one must be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward.15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames.

God’s Temple and God’s Wisdom
(Romans 12:1–8; 1 Corinthians 6:18–20)

16Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells inb you? 17If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.

18Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.”c20And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”d

21Therefore, stop boasting in men. All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephase or the world or life or death or the present or the future. All of them belong to you, 23and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.

Always your choice! But as you sit now, you make your own way, apart from what was given in the scriptures that come from your mouth that you proclaim you have stayed in since a “boyscout”.

Neither Christian nor Jewish, but a “new” way….that was given….

 

[PloughBoy]

We were told to seek!

Deuteronomy 4:29 – “But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.”

1 Chronicles 28:9 – “As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a loyal heart and with a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will cast you off forever.”

James 4:8 – ” Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.”

Luke 11:9-10 – “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.”

Our God, which goes by many names, and found under many titles and labels, only speaks one language, and that is the language of the Spirit. And can only be heard with ears than can understand, and eyes that can perceive! For It is not an “audible” language. For it is the language of the the Heart and soul! Neither is it emotions, but will produce them; just as an audible language will!

You speak with the wisdom of the world! As you talk of theological concepts. This is not a matter of belief! Nor of interpretation! This is Living with a God most present, relationshiping!!!!

This is not about what you label yourself as. But about -being- a Child of God!

If you do not look for him, you will not find him! He found you where you were, and called you to a work!
God’s Fellow Workers
(Hebrews 5:11–14)

1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly—as infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for solid food. In fact, you are still not ready, 3for you are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and dissension among you, are you not worldly? Are you not walking in the way of man? 4For when one of you says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men?

5What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, as the Lord has assigned to each his role. 6I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8He who plants and he who waters are one in purpose,a and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.

Christ Our Foundation
(Isaiah 28:14–22; Ephesians 2:19–22; 1 Peter 2:1–8)

10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one must be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward.15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames.

God’s Temple and God’s Wisdom
(Romans 12:1–8; 1 Corinthians 6:18–20)

16Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple, and that God’s Spirit dwells inb you? 17If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.

18Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness.”c20And again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”d

21Therefore, stop boasting in men. All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephase or the world or life or death or the present or the future. All of them belong to you, 23and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.

Always your choice! But as you sit now, you make your own way, apart from what was given in the scriptures that come from your mouth that you proclaim you have stayed in since a “boyscout”.

Neither Christian nor Jewish, but a “new” way….that was given….

Who was told to seek him, may I ask?

But I sure was not told to seek him,

That is or who is the we you are referring to?

 

[Luminary]

Who was told to seek him, may I ask?

But I sure was not told to seek him,

That is or who is the we you are referring to?

The Israelites, and those called by him.

I provided the scriptures
And me personally, before I even knew of those scriptures. As the Spirit gave me the hunger for it.

Ask, seek, knock!!! With all your soul and all your mind!

 

[PloughBoy]

The Israelites, and those called by him.

I provided the scriptures
And me personally, before I even knew of those scriptures. As the Spirit gave me the hunger for it.

Ask, seek, knock!!! With all your soul and all your mind!

Yes I agree with you and All your Assessment concerning His TRUTH.

And then we have some:

Romans:
20And Isaiah is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I became manifest unto them that asked not of me.

21But as to Israel he saith, All the day long did I spread out my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

 

[Luminary]

Yes I agree with you and All your Assessment concerning His TRUTH.

And then we have some:

Romans:
20And Isaiah is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I became manifest unto them that asked not of me.

21But as to Israel he saith, All the day long did I spread out my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Because we are all called to a different purpose and for different reasons. And comes to each differently. Calls to each differently. Known by each differently and by different names. As each of them given, serve as the Testimony and Truth to Our God. No two will be the same. Which also serves to the vastness and depth that this God goes. But will still be of one accord in Mind and Heart: That of the Father, and Will be of One Eternal Truth; of no private interpretation! Which is How This God is Known. Because he displays it, in Just as many ways.

You cannot just call out Isaiah. For there has to be at least two other witnesses. Even if the Spirit. Only if one other person.

You must display it. And this you don’t.