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Eat my flesh, drink my blood

The testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy as is written in Rev. 19:10.
The book of Revelation is not in our canon, (and shouldn't be in yours).

I encourage everyone to study the history of the books of the New Testament and where their "authorization" came from.

Kindly,
Rhema

 
To obey means to DO what Jesus says.
If a person just "believes", as you say, then they are not blessed, Jesus will say away from me I never knew you.

Faith alone is dead. Believing is as drinking his blood. No one can live on drinking alone, one must also eat. Eating is doing what Jesus says to do.

Can't just believe and drink, have to EAT, and can't eat unless you do what he says to do.
Jesus says more to do than just believe.

Jesus says DRINK AND EAT.

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 8:51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."
 
So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat? Jesus said in John 6:32-33 “32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”
The body of Jesus is the corpus of His teachings, the teachings of Jesus and Him alone, for that one is greater than Moses. We are indeed to consume His teachings as worthy meat - a life giving bread that guides the hand of all we do.

Rhema
 
When we celebrate the Lord’s Supper, it is in remembrance to Jesus dying for us.
For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. See 1 Corinthians 11:26.

Read what Jesus' disciples said to him...


John 4:31 Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."

32 But he said to them, "I have food to eat that you know nothing about."

33 Then his disciples said to each other, "Could someone have brought him food?"

34 "My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.

Did you read that? Jesus says his food is to DO the will of him who sent me and to FINISH HIS WORK.

We are to do God's will. God's will is that we obey Jesus' teachings.

Now, that proves we eat the flesh of Jesus when we do what Jesus says to do.

That is how we eat the bread from heaven, the bread of life.

We have to eat every day. We have to obey every day.
 
The testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy as is written in Rev.
Revelation 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” I had to edit and quote the KJV
Just as it is written that the prophets spake by the Spirit of Christ. The Holy Spirit is the seal that binds up the law and the testimony in Gods disciples, which is why I posted this verse above

Isaiah 8:16
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
 
The body of Jesus is the corpus of His teachings, the teachings of Jesus and Him alone, for that one is greater than Moses. We are indeed to consume His teachings as worthy meat - a life giving bread that guides the hand of all we do.

Rhema
Yes, but Jesus also said that man shall not live by bread alone, but every word that proceeds from God. Moses and the prophets also spoke the words of God by the Spirit of Christ that was in them.

Peter 1:10-11

King James Version

10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
 
The book of Revelation is not in our canon, (and shouldn't be in yours).

I encourage everyone to study the history of the books of the New Testament and where their "authorization" came from.

Kindly,
Rhema

It’s the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not to be dismissed.
 
This proves the blood represents the testimony, or testament , aka covenant.

Exodus 24:8
And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.

Hebrews 9:1-20​

King James Version​

9 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.”

Notice verse 9 and 14 talk about purifying and purging our conscience from evil.

This is where the Holy Spirit comes in and writes Gods words on our hearts and minds. This is the New Covenant / Testament God spoke of in the OT prophets, where he would write His words and laws on the heart of the people.

This is what Paul is showing here….

2 Corinthians 3:3
Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
 
Moses and the prophets also spoke the words of God by the Spirit of Christ that was in them.
They may have, but we don't have a reliable record.

(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV) How can you say, “We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us,” when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?​

It’s the Revelation of Jesus Christ, not to be dismissed.
It was dismissed by the Apostle Thomas, and more than half the church even until the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD (cf. Eusebius ). The book, more properly known as the Apocalypse of John, is in the Roman Catholic canon because of one person only - Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria who forced it into the canon in 367 AD. Indeed, the previous council of Bishops rejected the book.

From THE CANON APPROVED BY THE SYNOD OF LAODICEA (C. 363AD)
Canon 59. Let no private psalms nor any uncanonical books be read in church, but only the canonical ones of the New and Old Testament. Can. 6o. [After listing the books of the Old Testament, the canon continues:] And these are the books of the New Testament: four Gospels, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; the Acts of the Apostles; seven Catholic Epistles, namely, one of James, two of Peter, three of John, one of Jude; fourteen Epistles of Paul, one to the Romans, two to the Corinthians, one to the Galatians, one to the Ephesians, one to the Philippians, one to the Colossians, two to the Thessalonians, one to the Hebrews, two to Timothy, one to Titus, and one to Philemon.​

From THE CANON OF AMPHILOCHIUS OF ICONIUM (D. AFTER 394)
7. And again the Revelation of John, Some approve, but the most say it is spurious, This is perhaps the most reliable (lit., most unfalsified) canon of the divinely inspired Scriptures.​

I encourage everyone to study the history of the books of the New Testament and where their "authorization" came from.

This proves the blood represents the testimony, or testament , aka covenant.
The Blood of the Covenant of Jesus was the wine... the New Wine that is not to be put in in old wine skins... the Wine is representative of the Holy Spirit which is poured out upon many.

Kindly,
Rhema
 
They are not “brothers or sisters” if they are not doing Gods will.

Matthew 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Fatherwhich is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Au contraire, since they did the will of the Father which is to believe in Jesus Christ, for how they are saved in verse 40 as the other will of the Father is that Jesus will do and that is He will lose none of all the Father has given Him in verse 39.
Paul said not to keep company with them even though they may call themselves brothers…
1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

So the saints are to separate themselves from the sinners, even if the sinners say they are saved or under grace. Their evil words and actions ( fruit) exposes them as reprobates.
Reprobates as disqualified but if they repent, guess what? They do not have to go through everything they went through when they got saved the first time; hint ~ hint ~ Hebrews 6:1-3 for why Hebrews 6:4-8 was written because they are still saved. That is why it is impossible to renew themselves because there is no need to when they are still saved. To suggest otherwise would be akin to crucifying Jesus again to open shame as if He had to go save them all over again.

Think about it. Believers that go astray can repent and be welcomed back into the fold without the necessity to be saved again because they are still saved. What was needed to be welcomed back into the fold was to repent for whatever iniquity he was not departing from that got him excommunicated from the fold. And that brother that was excommunicated in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 for having his father's wife, was indeed remorseful and welcomed back into the fold when he had repented as Paul was informed that he was back in the fold in his second epistles to the Corinthians.

So how can that brother be back into the fold if it is impossible for him to be renewed again as you apply Hebrews 6:4-8 to mean? But it does not mean as you say but the opposite because there is no necessity for him to go through Hebrews 6:1-3 steps again because he is still saved. Capisce?
 
This proves the blood represents the testimony, or testament , aka covenant.

Exodus 24:8
And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.

Hebrews 9:1-20​

King James Version​

9 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.”

Notice verse 9 and 14 talk about purifying and purging our conscience from evil.

This is where the Holy Spirit comes in and writes Gods words on our hearts and minds. This is the New Covenant / Testament God spoke of in the OT prophets, where he would write His words and laws on the heart of the people.

This is what Paul is showing here….

2 Corinthians 3:3
Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Jesus made a New Covenant, which is the same as saying a New Testament.

It is like when a human makes a Last Will and Testament.

The person making the Last Will and Testament says who is an heir, and what they will get.

The last will and testament has to be followed exactly, and it does not go into force until the Testator dies.

Jesus walked the earth and told us how to be an heir, and he said what we will receive.

We have to do what Jesus says to be that heir and receive the inheritance.
 
Jesus made a New Covenant, which is the same as saying a New Testament.

It is like when a human makes a Last Will and Testament.

The person making the Last Will and Testament says who is an heir, and what they will get.

The last will and testament has to be followed exactly, and it does not go into force until the Testator dies.

Jesus walked the earth and told us how to be an heir, and he said what we will receive.

We have to do what Jesus says to be that heir and receive the inheritance.
Finally something I can agree with. Very good
 
Au contraire, since they did the will of the Father which is to believe in Jesus Christ, for how they are saved in verse 40 as the other will of the Father is that Jesus will do and that is He will lose none of all the Father has given Him in verse 39.

Reprobates as disqualified but if they repent, guess what? They do not have to go through everything they went through when they got saved the first time; hint ~ hint ~ Hebrews 6:1-3 for why Hebrews 6:4-8 was written because they are still saved. That is why it is impossible to renew themselves because there is no need to when they are still saved. To suggest otherwise would be akin to crucifying Jesus again to open shame as if He had to go save them all over again.

Think about it. Believers that go astray can repent and be welcomed back into the fold without the necessity to be saved again because they are still saved. What was needed to be welcomed back into the fold was to repent for whatever iniquity he was not departing from that got him excommunicated from the fold. And that brother that was excommunicated in 1 Corinthians 5:1-13 for having his father's wife, was indeed remorseful and welcomed back into the fold when he had repented as Paul was informed that he was back in the fold in his second epistles to the Corinthians.

So how can that brother be back into the fold if it is impossible for him to be renewed again as you apply Hebrews 6:4-8 to mean? But it does not mean as you say but the opposite because there is no necessity for him to go through Hebrews 6:1-3 steps again because he is still saved. Capisce?
Clearly you ignore what is plainly written when it clashes with your false doctrine. So no need to discuss with you any further. I hope God opens your eyes to the Truth before it is too late.
 
Clearly you ignore what is plainly written when it clashes with your false doctrine. So no need to discuss with you any further. I hope God opens your eyes to the Truth before it is too late.
Yeah.. I'll be praying for you too, brother. I leave you in God's hands since you are.
 
Jesus said in John 6:54-56

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.​

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”

Jesus said in John 6:27 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.”

So what is the flesh and blood of Jesus that we are to eat? Jesus said in John 6:32-33 “32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.”

Jesus said in
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.
So what is His flesh, and what is this bread of Life? We are told in 1John 1:1 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;”
In John 1:14 we confirm what Jesus’flesh is when we are told that “the Word was made flesh”

So it is the words of God we must consume like food for our soul. But what about the blood of Jesus we are told to drink?

The blood of Jesus speaks….
Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

The blood of Jesus represents His Testimony….
Matthew 26:28
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

This is how the blood of His testimony washes clean…
John 15:3
Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Ephesians 5:26
That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Both water and blood testify ….
1 John 5:6
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by waterand blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Both water and blood came out of Jesus’ side when pierced.

Consuming the flesh and blood of Jesus is how we truly commune with God. The flesh and blood of Jesus is both the law and the testimony of God.

Isaiah 8:16
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

One thing I have learned, depending on a Denomination's theology (which Jesus never gave us) , is that the alleged "wise men" of these organization each take different passages literally and other figuratively. This has sown various views on what this passage means. Does He become the elements, or is He present IN the elements, or is He with us during consumption of the elements? Another intriguing post by the way.

So 1 Corinthians 11:29 brings in an interesting clue to the correct understanding. As a Biblical mystery it is more something we enter into (by faith) rather than solve. So this passage speaks to it being more about how we approach eating it rather than simply eating it. As we do this "in remembrance of Him" we discern His body in the breaking of the bread, we thankfully see this as having been dome for us. To not actually discern His body in this remembrance is to partake unworthily.
 
One thing I have learned, depending on a Denomination's theology (which Jesus never gave us) , is that the alleged "wise men" of these organization each take different passages literally and other figuratively. This has sown various views on what this passage means. Does He become the elements, or is He present IN the elements, or is He with us during consumption of the elements? Another intriguing post by the way.

So 1 Corinthians 11:29 brings in an interesting clue to the correct understanding. As a Biblical mystery it is more something we enter into (by faith) rather than solve. So this passage speaks to it being more about how we approach eating it rather than simply eating it. As we do this "in remembrance of Him" we discern His body in the breaking of the bread, we thankfully see this as having been dome for us. To not actually discern His body in this remembrance is to partake unworthily.
Catholics don't understand that to eat the flesh of Jesus is to obey his words.
They think their priests all over the world are actually turning wafers into the real literal flesh of Jesus, and the wine into the real literal blood of Jesus.
The Lutherans and Calvinists are close to the Catholics beliefs.
Luther and Calvin were both Catholics and didn't give up many of the Catholics false teachings.

To be in the covenant with Jesus we have to have faith and we have to have obedience.
When we have faith in Jesus it is as drinking his blood, and when we obey Jesus it is as eating his flesh.
After we drink his blood and eat his flesh Jesus gives us pure water to drink, which is the Holy Spirit.
 
One thing I have learned, depending on a Denomination's theology (which Jesus never gave us) , is that the alleged "wise men" of these organization each take different passages literally and other figuratively. This has sown various views on what this passage means. Does He become the elements, or is He present IN the elements, or is He with us during consumption of the elements? Another intriguing post by the way.

So 1 Corinthians 11:29 brings in an interesting clue to the correct understanding. As a Biblical mystery it is more something we enter into (by faith) rather than solve. So this passage speaks to it being more about how we approach eating it rather than simply eating it. As we do this "in remembrance of Him" we discern His body in the breaking of the bread, we thankfully see this as having been dome for us. To not actually discern His body in this remembrance is to partake unworthily.
What is an idol? Something made with men's hands and claiming that is his god. I can see why Jesus said to do communion only in remembrance of Him for what He has done by His death on the cross.

Communion is symbolic and those not discerning the Lord's body were not taking the bread nor drinking the wine during communion service but before in satisfying their hunger and thirst. They were not discerning what the bread & the wine was for; in doing communion in remembrance of Him in proclaiming the Lord's death of what He as done on the cross, the Lord's body.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

That would include the bread they make for communion.

Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.

1 Corinthians 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
 
Luther and Calvin were both Catholics and didn't give up many of the Catholics false teachings.
Luther did not hold to transubstantiation, but rather presented a doctrine called consubstantiation, as a rejection of Catholic beliefs.

In all, Luther held to only two of the seven sacraments of the Catholic church, while Calvin rejected them all.

Rhema
 
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