Call it eternal life, call it human life, call it whatever you want.
The fact is, they will feel torment forever and ever.
Rev 20:10; And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Hello B-A-C,
'And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the beast and the false prophet are,
and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.'
(Rev 20:10)
This refers to the devil, the beast and the false prophet specifically.
B-A-C said:-
'Then another angel, a third one, followed them,
saying with a loud voice,
"If anyone worships the beast and his image,
and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;
and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone
in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
nd the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:
and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image,
and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.'
(Rev 14:9-11)
* This also is specific as to whom it refers,
'anyone who worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or his hand, '
B-A-C said::-
Luke 16:23; "In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luke 16:24; "And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.'
Luke 16:28; for I have five brothers—in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
'There was a certain rich man,
which was clothed in purple and fine linen,
and fared sumptuously every day:
And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus,
which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table:
moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
And it came to pass, that the beggar died,
and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:
the rich man also died, and was buried;
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments,
and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me,
and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water,
and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things,
and likewise Lazarus evil things:
but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed:
so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot;
neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father,
that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them,
lest they also come into this place of torment.
Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
(Luk 16:19-31)
* Let the Word of God speak in regard to these words of our Lord in Luke 16: and then tell me that He was not using irony, and seeking,by telling this story to show the hypocrisy of Pharisaic doctrine. See for example:- Psalms 146:2-4; Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 104:33; Psalms 104:29-30; Ecclesiastes 12:7; Psalms 6:5; Psalms 31:17; Psalms 115:17; Psalms 30:9; Psalms 88:11;Isaiah 88:18-19. These verses show that this story, told by our Lord, was not teaching, but divine irony.
B-A-C said:-
Matt 25:46; "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
The human/natural body has already faced the first death by this time. Now they face the second death.
* In this passage of Scripture in Matthew 25, the Lord is judging the nations, and there are those who will be allowed entry into the kingdom, and others who will suffer everlasting punishment. The punishment is everlasting, in that it will have no end, it is a sentence that endures for ever, with no hope of reprieve. Nothing is said about eternal
conscious punishment.
B-A-C said:-
Rev 20:14; Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
Rev 21:8; "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
But you never really die in the second death.
* Where are we told that death does not mean death? In regard to either death of the body, or the second death? In saying this are you not in fact reiterating Satan's lie, 'Thou shalt not surely die'? (Genesis 2:17)
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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