Brother, the greek word aiōnion is used 45 times and each time is translated either as eternal, forever, everlasting, both for life and death. The body may perish, but the soul is eternal.
I think we've determined from Scripture pretty solidly that aion doesn't mean eternal, thus people don't suffer enterally. It is interesting that you mention justice. Justice means equity. Equity is an eye for an eye, but didn't God say that? What isn't justice is telling someone that if they sin they will die, and then after they sin to tell them that instead of the stated punishment they are going to burn for eternity. That's actually called the, "The Bait and Switch". It's deceptive. God said through Ezekiel, 'the soul that sins shall die'. Paul said, 'the wages of sin is death'. These are both statements that tell us what the result of sin is.
No, you have not proven aiōnion does not literally mean eternal, because it literally means eternal. And NO you can't take the word aiōnio out of scripture: it's written into the text as with an iron pen. Deal with it, because aiōnionas is as theopneustos as the passage of John 3:16.
Hi Jerry,
If you read through the thread I believe you'll see that I have. No one said to take the word aion out of Scripture. I said take it out of the argument for eternal. Can you make a case for eternal punishment without the word aion. If not then the idea is based on a single definition, which can be shown to be wrong.
Definition of aion: for ever, an unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity, the worlds, universe, period of time, age
Brother, no need to go any further. You aren't convincing at all.
Where? You said it was used of aionios life and punishment. You didn't show how the Greek was used. Again, please address the evidence. I've not ignored anything you've said. I addressed your use of aion. I also pointed out that Jesus didn't use the word eternal. That is from the translators.
Aiōnion is the Greek word for eternal, the manuscripts agree, and the translators agreed that when the manuscripts quote Jesus regarding eternal life and eternal punishment, HE used the word aiōnion, or its Hebrew or Aramaic equivalent, which means eternal. If it was not by acclamation, then by super majority consensus those learned translators of the Greek and Hebrew agreed that what Jesus was quoted to have said and meant is eternal, as in eternal.
That does not line up with the Word at all....That's an intellectual interpretation of the Word...As the Holy Spirit what is what...
Brother,
What about the verses that say the flesh body will return to dust? The first death...The second death is where the spirit/soul is forever separated from Life...who is God.... Stick with what the Word says and forget trying to translate it into what you want it to say.
