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Whos is the Ruler of this World, God, Satan or Man?

Well if the earth is not under rule by satan then why is everything so bad, so wicked, so un-Godly??
The world still belongs to the adversary - those fallen beings who oppose God's plan for our redemption and ultimate salvation.
Only when Jesus returns in power and glory and satan and his lot are thrown out into the abyss then Jesus will rule by government the entire world from Jerusalem.
In this present age God is calling Christians to come out of the world, to deny worldly passions and lusts, to seek treasure in Heaven, to be noticeably different from worldly peoples.

Psalm 2:4 He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision.
5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying,
6 “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.”
7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession.
9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.”
10 Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.
What are Christians doing to make the world better? "Oh God I need, I need, I need...You may pray for the world but most do not...You may stand against things like this new Covid religion but most do not. You may stand for rivival and a great awakening but most do not...Most live in their myopic little worlds and do nothing but wait for the coming of the Lord....We have a job to do and most are not doing it....So why are there wars, covid, and riots and such? That's our fault. We do not stand against it as a people.
 
I know that you do realize that we CANNOT declare anything legal or not legal without having the ruling power to do so. We do not allow anything if we are slaves. You're just testing that. Right?
Can you provide some examples of what / who you believe we can 'bind' and 'permit'?
 
Can you provide some examples of what / who you believe we can 'bind' and 'permit'?

Matthew 18:18

Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

' Whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are honest and of good report, think on these things.' These we declare legal....Whatsoever goes against this verse, we declare illegal.
 
We do not stand against it as a people.
That is not our commission; not our job description. It is not for us to save the world. The wicked will do what the wicked enjoy doing and there are terrible consequences for people in suffering and in being victims of a spiritually wicked world.
But our job is to be a light shining bright in the darkness - our testimonies and our discipleship - we are to preach the good news of salvation and rescue individuals who are seeking hope in the God of salvation.
God the Father and the Son are calling people to come out of the world and to live holy lives - to be noticeably different from worldly people; full of love, compassion and integrity.
When I talk to people I share my testimony of how I came to believe the gospel and how the Holy Spirit transformed my life instantly. I often offer to pray with people for a healing or some other miracle they may need.
God is saving individual people one by one. He is not saving the world, rather he will burn it all.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.

1Thess 1:9 For THEY report concerning us what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how ye turned unto God from idols, to be bondmen of a living and true God,
10 and to wait for his Son from the heavens, whom he raised from the dead: Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come.
 
That is not our commission; not our job description. It is not for us to save the world. The wicked will do what the wicked enjoy doing and there are terrible consequences for people in suffering and in being victims of a spiritually wicked world.
But our job is to be a light shining bright in the darkness - our testimonies and our discipleship - we are to preach the good news of salvation and rescue individuals who are seeking hope in the God of salvation.
God the Father and the Son are calling people to come out of the world and to live holy lives - to be noticeably different from worldly people; full of love, compassion and integrity.
When I talk to people I share my testimony of how I came to believe the gospel and how the Holy Spirit transformed my life instantly. I often offer to pray with people for a healing or some other miracle they may need.
God is saving individual people one by one. He is not saving the world, rather he will burn it all.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.


1Thess 1:9 For THEY report concerning us what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how ye turned unto God from idols, to be bondmen of a living and true God,
10 and to wait for his Son from the heavens, whom he raised from the dead: Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come.
I'm sorry you think that way my friend....It IS our mandate to bring Jesus to the World and not let Satan have his way...Did Jesus ever yield to Satan anywhere? Are we to do different than Jesus?
 
Matthew 18:18

Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

' Whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are honest and of good report, think on these things.' These we declare legal....Whatsoever goes against this verse, we declare illegal.
And this means we rule the earth?
 
I'm sorry you think that way my friend....It IS our mandate to bring Jesus to the World and not let Satan have his way...Did Jesus ever yield to Satan anywhere? Are we to do different than Jesus?

Question: .Did Jesus ever yield to Satan anywhere?
:eyes: Why would Satan's, Creator Bow down to him. And For what reason, would the "Creature" bow down to the Creator?

I only could think of one reason. Why Jesus would do such a Thing.
World English Bible
"Jesus answered, "You would have no power at all against me, unless it were given to you from above."

(John 14).
"Do not let your hearts be troubled, nor fearful. You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away, and I am coming to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before it happens, so that when it happens, you may believe.I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in regard to Me, but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me. Get up, let’s go from here."

Does Jesus every yields to Satan? Jesus does what every HIs Father Commands Him to do! And one day His Father is going to tell HIM to Pour out the "Wrath of GOD" upon the Whole EARTH! No more mercy and no more grace!:eyes: Game over! Those pretty little "Ewes" ain't going to have a chance. When He crack that Sky, knees are going to start shaking, men and women are going to start wetting in their underwear. Running with no where to hide! Mary's little baby is not going to be the same, Trees, lakes, flowers, rocks, mountains, sheep, lambs, dogs, lions, snakes, demons, tigers, is going to be running for their life and no where to hide!
 
We have been given dominion.....That means we are to reign in the Earth...that is our mandate....You do know what dominion means?

You are misunderstanding the verse. Having power on earth does not equate to ruling it. Having dominion over those items you mentioned, does not equate to ruling the earth.

I can prove it. Where were you when Isis was beheading thousands of Christians? You were busy ''ruling'' over your flower garden?
 
You are misunderstanding the verse. Having power on earth does not equate to ruling it. Having dominion over those items you mentioned, does not equate to ruling the earth.

I can prove it. Where were you when Isis was beheading thousands of Christians? You were busy ''ruling'' over your flower garden?
By that "proof" I can say that there is no God. Where was He when millions of helpless babies are being sacrificed in the USA? Where was He when Isis was beheading thousands of Christians? That's not proof...God does exist and so do we have dominion.. You say we do not have dominion and that God is in contol. Both are cop outs to avoid our responsibilities. You have not shown me any scripture to show I'm wrong, my friend, you're only shown me faulty logic...I've shown you scripture. Besides.....I don't like gardening.

BTW..I suggest you read Genesis 1:27-29 again Reread it until you read it all....please don't just skim over it.
 
By that "proof" I can say that there is no God.
No you can't. We are not God. We are omni - nothing ;).

Where was He when millions of helpless babies are being sacrificed in the USA? Where was He when Isis was beheading thousands of Christians?
Because of His gift of free will to mankind. He has His hands tied by our will. As Christian we unlock His hands. As such, if God did not miraculously rescue any, He was with them in their suffering.

That's not proof...God does exist and so do we have dominion.. You say we do not have dominion and that God is in contol. Both are cop outs to avoid our responsibilities. You have not shown me any scripture to show I'm wrong, my friend, you're only shown me faulty logic...I've shown you scripture. Besides.....I don't like gardening.

God is control of all. To suggest He is not is to suggest He is not God. But we have to learn something about God. God believes and supports ''true free will''. God has ordained in His wisdom to give the earth to the devil as it unlocks true free will. Free will is good. The wicked that takes place is not good, but that is on us. We are the creation we are. Free will / the need for the cross is / was part and parcel of making highly intelligent beings in His image.

God gives the wicked time and space to be wicked. God protects or is with His people in their suffering.

One-day when the devil is thrown into a bottomless pit, we will reign on the earth with Jesus. At that time, there will be no '''thousands of Christians be-headed by ISIS''. As long as this is happening, we know that it is because Jesus is not in control of earth.

These are rational and logical scriptural facts.
 
No you can't. We are not God. We are omni - nothing ;).

Because of His gift of free will to mankind. He has His hands tied by our will. As Christian we unlock His hands. As such, if God did not miraculously rescue any, He was with them in their suffering.



God is control of all. To suggest He is not is to suggest He is not God. But we have to learn something about God. God believes and supports ''true free will''. God has ordained in His wisdom to give the earth to the devil as it unlocks true free will. Free will is good. The wicked that takes place is not good, but that is on us. We are the creation we are. Free will / the need for the cross is / was part and parcel of making highly intelligent beings in His image.

God gives the wicked time and space to be wicked. God protects or is with His people in their suffering.

One-day when the devil is thrown into a bottomless pit, we will reign on the earth with Jesus. At that time, there will be no '''thousands of Christians be-headed by ISIS''. As long as this is happening, we know that it is because Jesus is not in control of earth.

These are rational and logical scriptural facts.
And when Jesus return, there will be no more Million dollar contracts either for Hitting a ball, or putting on make-upr! Neither giving the daily news, or walking down a "Runway", Wall Street is gone! and the" Pharmaceuticals" will not exists. And slave wages will be a thing of the past. And the Government will be upon His Shoulders! And it will not be a "Democracy" but a "Theocracy"!
 
No you can't. We are not God. We are omni - nothing ;).

Because of His gift of free will to mankind. He has His hands tied by our will. As Christian we unlock His hands. As such, if God did not miraculously rescue any, He was with them in their suffering.



God is control of all. To suggest He is not is to suggest He is not God. But we have to learn something about God. God believes and supports ''true free will''. God has ordained in His wisdom to give the earth to the devil as it unlocks true free will. Free will is good. The wicked that takes place is not good, but that is on us. We are the creation we are. Free will / the need for the cross is / was part and parcel of making highly intelligent beings in His image.

God gives the wicked time and space to be wicked. God protects or is with His people in their suffering.

One-day when the devil is thrown into a bottomless pit, we will reign on the earth with Jesus. At that time, there will be no '''thousands of Christians be-headed by ISIS''. As long as this is happening, we know that it is because Jesus is not in control of earth.

These are rational and logical scriptural facts.
God is sovereign, but He put US in control of the Earth...

Psalm 115:15-16 Complete Jewish Bible CJB
15 May you be blessed by Adonai,
the maker of heaven and earth.
16 Heaven belongs to Adonai,
but the earth he has given to humankind.

So dominion of the Earth belongs to humankind... My friend, I think its obvioud that you did not reread that verse I suggested you reread.



Genesis 1:28 King James Version (KJV)

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

He said to subdue the Earth... Subdue definition, to conquer and bring into subjection

Your statement that God is in control in the Earth is against scripture and actually is illogical when you say man has free will...Why? If you are under somebodys control, you do not have free will....The two terms are mutually exclusive.

Again...If God was in control in the Earth, in His love, In His mercy, and in His justice, He would NOT allow those things to happen... He would put a quick stop to it. For example:

Isaiah 59:15-17 (CJB)
15 Honesty is lacking,
he who leaves evil becomes a target.
Adonai saw it, and it displeased him
that there was no justice.
16 He saw that there was no one,
was amazed that no one interceded.
Therefore his own arm brought him salvation,
and his own righteousness sustained him.
17 He put on righteousness as his breastplate,
salvation as a helmet on his head;
he clothed himself with garments of vengeance
and wrapped himself in a mantle of zeal.


When Jesus took the keys from Satan, He took all authority from Satan...Keys signify authority, reign, dominion. And He did not give it back to Satan
Hebrews 2:5-8 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

5 For it was not to angels that God subjected the ‘olam haba (the inhabited Earth) — which is what we are talking about. 6 And there is a place where someone has given this solemn testimony:

“What is mere man, that you concern yourself with him?
or the son of man, that you watch over him with such care?

7 You made him a little lower than the angels,
you crowned him with glory and honor,

8 you put everything in subjection under his feet.”[a]
In subjecting everything to him, he left nothing unsubjected to him. However, at present, we don’t see everything subjected to him — at least, not yet.

So everything in Earth is subject to us, but we do not yet have absolute authority...but Satan has no authority at all

If you want to continue this, please use scripture to back you up
 
And there are over 700 million people going hungry every night. And over 200 million at the verge of starving to death everyday. and there is enough food in the world that no one has to starve in the world at all. But if the oil gets in short supply. The world will make sure "Automobiles" and machines are not going to starve. The World can go to the moon, and map out a path through the earth "atmosphere". and build Submarines that can go 36,000 feet underwater, and a nuclear submarine can remain underwater for 25 years and no one can even know it is there. And One of the Most Deadliest of 5 Submarine in the World is The "Ohio-class Ballistic Missile Submarine. "This Submarine here. In 1 Minute could unleash up t0 192 nuclear warheads to wipe twenty four cities off the Map, This is a nightmarish weapon of the Apocalypse." And that is a "Quote" and not my words. That is one Submarine! design to kill a man! It was not design to kill fish. It was design to kill people, and it does not discriminate! Age, color, Height or gender!
 
Who is the ruler of this world?

 
but Satan has no authority at all
Really!! What planet do you live on?

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Ok....Where is his authority? He is a fabulous liar...If you believe him, he still has no authority over you....Unless you give him authority over you? You bend your knee to him, to obey him?
Satan and his gang do not have power over me as a Spirit-filled Christian and in the name of Jesus I can rebuke them, BUT the world is not populated by 7 thousand million Spirit-filled Christians
thus satan and his lot do rule the world - and as an adversary against the gospel and the righteousness of God they are winning the numbers game.
Even Christian Churches embrace homosexuals and marry them before the altar of God - satan is still pulling the strings of many.
 
Ok....Where is his authority? He is a fabulous liar...If you believe him, he still has no authority over you....Unless you give him authority over you? You bend your knee to him, to obey him?
"So Pilate said to Him, “Do You refuse to speak to me? Do You not know that I have authority to release You and authority to crucify You?” Jesus answered, “You would have no authority over Me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed Me over to you is guilty of greater sin.” From then on, Pilate tried to release Him, but the Jews kept shouting, “If you release this man, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who declares himself a king is defying Caesar.”…

Romans 13:1
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God.
 
Satan and his gang do not have power over me as a Spirit-filled Christian and in the name of Jesus I can rebuke them, BUT the world is not populated by 7 thousand million Spirit-filled Christians
thus satan and his lot do rule the world - and as an adversary against the gospel and the righteousness of God they are winning the numbers game.
Even Christian Churches embrace homosexuals and marry them before the altar of God - satan is still pulling the strings of many.

Romans 6:16 (CJB)
16 Don’t you know that if you present yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, then, of the one whom you are obeying, you are slaves — whether of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to being made righteous?

Even the unsaved have the authority to set Satan as lord over them, or to keep him so. Satan only has that authority as long as they choose to serve him. Same as you, you were slave to Satan until you chose to live.
 
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