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A True "son of GOD" has to be out of their mind to "sleep with another mans wife" because GOD is going to deal with them, Himself!

Opens the door for demons to enter a persons' body -- demon possession. That is not possible for born again believers.

You're going in extremes. You're seeing demons around every corner.

Now there Are people who are addicted To sex. But that's not a norm. And there are people who like to express themselves sexually. Not Biblical but it's not demonic in nature.
How do you know that ? Are you sure ?

Just because a person becomes a born again believer wont stop the darkness , infact it causes the darkness to act more agressive than ever .

I have known some strong born agains to lose thier faith . Often do to a tragedy in thier lives . Such as trama of being with someone or next to someone as in a car accident . The driver lived , when everyone else dies. . But i have compassion for that person and have asked God to forgive them .

But there are those who were born again , yet have fallen . There are more than one type of posession .
 
I will be more precise; when a person commits sexual sins, like fornicating and Adultery. not only does it introduce a certain disease into another's body. but also open the door for demons to enter into another;s body. Now that person cannot stop from sexual sins of all kinds. It breeds, all kinds of uncleanness. l If that person has had another sexual relationship with another person now that person is invaded by certain diseases and demonic activities that is active in that person and whoever that person have been with other than the present person host. It spreads and breeds more.. Romans 1 testify to this. and the OT. That is why GOD told the Israelites to kill all the men and women who have know a man and kill all children in those cities, He gave the command. He did not want his people to be contaminated by disease and hosts of demons that had invaded these cultures.

All types of sexual immorality, people with animals, men with men, women with women, all kinds of perverseness. demonic activities pass on through rebellion, for GOD left them unto themselves. For they had not his protection by dis-obedience from the Law he had put in them, knowing the difference between good and evil. Romans again testifies to this. [people are able host a legion of demons} and Jesus said this:
(Luke 11).
24“When the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and not finding any, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25“And when it comes, it finds it swept and put in order. 26“Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first.” [do not play with this text, whether a true christian can be possess or not, obey GOD then you will not have to worry about it].
American Standard Version
"Know ye not that your bodies are members of Christ? shall I then take away the members of Christ, and make them members of a harlot? God forbid."


If you have enter contact with and fellowship with these type of people , you are in the company of a host of demons. They will influence you. They appears as a angel of Light, kind, loving, considerate, peaceful, stolen waters are sweet, love.

There are all kinds of demons thousands upon thousands. with all kinds of different skills in deceptions. Not only are they around these type of people and in them, They will follow you home. Like ride you back. Thoughts begin to invade your feelings of all types, Invading your home as well, setting up camp there. studying you and your family. Sexual demons are the worst of all! Invade you dreams as you sleep. And then another one, bring up unpleasant thoughts about your spouse at the same time. These demons works in a pack [team players]. "behold I seen you in a mist of wolves" wolves hunt in packs!

demons work on your feelings, your cravings, and you will think the enemy is here, but the real enemy is smooth and kind who used the proper bait, the kind that makes your "TOES CURL" with just a sniff of the wind. This creature is more than a "Apex Predator" he is the "Perfect Adversarial Hunter" that cares not how old you are, or young, neither does he cares what color or race you maybe. His aim is to send you Hell. 1st class seat, driven by the Truth! He is the accuser of the brothers to the Father night and day. When he talks to you, he tells you lies, but when he accuse you to the Father, he tells the Truth. He uses The WORD OF GOD AGAINST YOU! We are instructed to keep a clean conscious. The devil will attack you before you get to the Throne of Grace, The Law of GOD will tackle you before you get there! And not only will it tackle you, it will hold you down while the devil take you to the task! Child of GOD!

(1 Cor 5).
1It is actually reported that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not even among the Gentiles, that one of you hath his father's wife. 2And ye are puffed up, and did not rather mourn, that he that had done this deed might be taken away from among you.

3For I verily, being absent in body but present in spirit, have already as though I were present judged him that hath so wrought this thing, 4in the name of our Lord Jesus, ye being gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

6Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7Purge out the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, even as ye are unleavened. For our passover also hath been sacrificed, even Christ: 8wherefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Expel the Immoral Brother

9I wrote unto you in my epistle to have no company with fornicators; 10not at all meaning with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous and extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world: 11but as it is, I wrote unto you not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no, not to eat. 12For what have I to do with judging them that are without? Do not ye judge them that are within?

And we raise our kids around these people and sit down and eat with them. Now Family is a different story, for GOD is the one who place them into our lives. The Stories in "Holy Scripture' testifly to this.
That is another issue.

Walk as wise: "I can do all things through Christ Jesus who strengthens me" "
King James Version
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

You do not have to believe, none of this: but there are a few who know i am speaking the truth, because they have been trap, and it Was Jesus alone who came and got them out of the "cage". and got those demons off of their backs! :cool:
I heard it once said to me , homosexuality is the perfect posession .

The one who acts on it wants it .

( if you ever meet someone with full posession , not homosexual , they do not want it . And they can not get rid of it without help . -- a Minister of God )
 
let us not forget our own selfish flesh also feeds to the lusting of these sins of enslavement ,,being addicted to someting that is sinful ,,is the same thing as being enslaved, and it is demons and or the flesh that does it is my thinking. Maybe it starts off with the flesh,, and then moves on to attacks from demons to continue and intensify the attack, I dont know for sure but I know I rescued and thank Jesus !!!

And I know we all agree on one thing that the King of Kings Jesus or lord and Master and savior is the only one who can truly set us free !!!
 
A thought for a moment -- the use of the term 'demon' can be used generally speaking or specific. It could be used as a figure of speech "that's sure a demon of a problem' As opposed to demonic influence in a person's life. As opposed to demonic possession.
 
Demons wants a lot more than to influence a Child of God, but to dominant that Child. 1st he leads that child away by the attractions of lies and deceptions of that child's desires in order to get that child faraway from its devoted parent and sanctuary into a atmosphere of a "Host" where that child is engulfed and completedly surrounded by "Legions and Legions" of all kinds of ranks of an "angelic host" that was cast out of Heaven to the earth.

Do not try to interpret these next few verses, 'Just Read it' "For The Lord will Give You understanding"

7And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, 8and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. 9And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death. 12“For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. [BUT] Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

13And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood. 16But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth. 17So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. "Those are the Ones, Who Love Jesus"!

If you Keep His commandments,, You will know the Truth! And That Devil and his demons, will attack you will such force that the world can never know. He will try to even kill you and if He does, you do not have to worry, because, GOD will bring you back as JESUS has said: "Lazarus is Sleep".:pensive:


Do not Let No ONE Interpret these "Holy Scriptures" to YOU!!! "For the Power of GOD is in YOU! For this is the Will of Your Father Which art in Heaven"


May The Love of God ,run deep, into your veins.
 
PloughBoy -- you're suggesting that with a born again believer -- the Holy Spirit doesn't have the power to keep them From demon oppression Or possession. We Are told to Resist and devil and he will flee from you.

What chapter of Rev are you in. Vs 7 - 17 of some chapter.
 
When something like this happens, there is something seriously wrong with the marriage to begin with. Things arent necessarily black and white. So many marriages end in divorce because they shouldnt have married in the first place. Ticking all the boxes or getting married because it "feels good" wont cut it in the long term, when things get tough the marriage soon shows it lacks strength. Yes they have commited adultery, but before anyone judges to harshly, seek the truth. When your with the "one" you will know. Best to wait for them, then rush in and marry someone who ticks all the boxes.
 
Marriages Also end because the relationship isn't be protected. Make sure your spouse knows he/ she is appreciated. When you're out and about -- hold his / her hand. Don't take the marriage for granted. Ask each other's opinions about 'whatever'. Be able to talk about 'everything' before you get married. And then carry that over into the marriage.
 
The main proplem is, people do not read "The BOOK" the whole Manual. That has examples in it. Plenty examples! Slowly and meditate on it and not her, Because she will make you lose your mind. Because, if God had made her another way, we would not had "replenish the earth! The earth would be barren!

Maybe that is why writing came later. And readers were scarce. But now you can read this:

(1 Cor. 7).
27Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed womani marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. 29This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none,

"The time is short and that Devil is on the prowl" old saying 'when a man and woman is together and the other one is not your spouse, The devils are in your mist" and they are a whole lot smarter and wiser than you! because if you was smart, you wouldn't be there! now days, it is not safe for two women to be alone together! Now read those verses again! And may the LORD give you Clarity.

Here we go again: do not let a man or woman interpret this to you! Let GOD do It!
Lean not unto your own understanding!

There are no stories in the BIBLE of examples of "HAPPY CHRISTIANS" marriages! NOT ONE!

There are No Formulas how to achieve ONE!
And Remember "Humans Lie"! Marriage accomplish what GOD intended for it to do! Replenish the EARTH! And some JOY in doing so! By the way of Marriage with His blessing. Every creature is motivated by a strong draw to replenish the Earth. And will fight to do so, in some cases..

And the translators has said: " like Adam was lonely" He was lonely alright. GOD fix that ,for HIM! And God ask him, have you eaten from that tree? He rightly replied: "It was that "WOMAN" you gave me. She gave and I ate! Every man on the Planet would have ate, if GOD had put a EVE before him TOO!

You see ADAM, knew , GOD set him up! Adam was not dumb. But He didn't know why. . you see i understand, I got in trouble a lot of times when i was young, staying out late, I just wanted to hold her hand! just a little longer Suffer the consequence later from My Parents. and I wouldn't wash that arm, that same arm that "Avon" perfume had rub off on , Boy did she smell Good.

Marriage is about GOD"S plan. of redemption. And He has place "LAWS", Penalties and punishments even death by HIM if violated.
The Institute of Marriage is more important than any man or female. It is not about you Woman, it is not about you Man, it is all about GOD! And marriage will protect you and make you grow strong in the "LORD" through obedience that enters into "GOD"S presence through the SON. That others who live not in obedience but love the things of this world can never experience. And they will think you got the short end of the stick!

And many will find out on the DAy of Judgment!

Game over! It never was about you!


(Ecclesiastes12).
13When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man. 14For God will bring every deed into judgment, along with every hidden thing, whether good or evil.

"Repent for The Kingdom of GOD is at hand" "Change the way you have been thinking, turn around and go the other WAY" That is what Repentance means.

( Take a look at that "If" in verse 15 below) (2 Tim. 2).
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve; 14and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen into transgression: 15but she shall be saved through her child-bearing, if they continue in faith and love and sanctification with sobriety.


English Standard Version
Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

Berean Study Bible
Women, however, will be saved through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
 
The yellow type is hard to read. Both man / woman // husband and wife need to be reading / meditating on God's Word.

You have a lousy attitude towards women.
 
The yellow type is hard to read. Both man / woman // husband and wife need to be reading / meditating on God's Word.

You have a lousy attitude towards women.
Sorry for yellow, night view is good, I will correct.

I just do not have a Western imaginary worldly view of the Bible presentation of the Bible. Once anyone becomes "Born from above" "born of God" and has become a new creature, and then and only then, have they the ability to learn about GOD through Jesus Christ and enter into that peace. And that is where the real peace and happiness is found. And not in a Marital imaginary relationship define by the world of formulas. Your peace is in Jesus alone. There is no peace in marriage, peace is in Jesus! You can have "LOVE" in marriage . But God has promise in his word you will have trouble if you are married. God Has commanded you to "Love your enemies". And a person enemy will be of his own household and that is a promise.
For the devil is going to make sure you will have trouble. "That is ground zero" It is hard to keep God's Word, sometimes. That is why we need a High Priest in Heaven, who understands! Do not forget, "Jesus was born of a woman" so you do have a "Bull's eye" on your back! And that devil is on your case, big time. And His weapon of deception, on you as a woman , have been proven. So stay in the mist of wise counsel. For some has been commanded to watch after you.

Why did you say that: "You have a lousy attitude towards women."
 
Believe me, when you meet the "one" Love takes on a very special meaning. If you have had bad experience with women, then thats what you will complain about. There are some mighty fine marriages out there. Not all are bad. Be at peace.
 
But God has promise in his word you will have trouble if you are married.

he also has some very good things to say about finding a good wife

Proverbs 31:10
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels.

Proverbs 19:14
House and wealth are inherited from fathers, but a prudent wife is from the Lord.

Proverbs 12:4
An excellent wife is the crown of her husband, but she who brings shame is like rottenness in his bones.
 
Greetings,

From what I recall, it through one man that sin entered the world.
The Lord Himself said, "let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
It is the Lord Himself Who is coming back for His Bride.

Let him who has ears hear.

Bless you ....><>
 
When something like this happens, there is something seriously wrong with the marriage to begin with. Things arent necessarily black and white. So many marriages end in divorce because they shouldnt have married in the first place. Ticking all the boxes or getting married because it "feels good" wont cut it in the long term, when things get tough the marriage soon shows it lacks strength. Yes they have commited adultery, but before anyone judges to harshly, seek the truth. When your with the "one" you will know. Best to wait for them, then rush in and marry someone who ticks all the boxes.
Marriages end , not because they were not ment to be . They end because people dont take time to nurture the marriage . .

Its just like faith in Jesus . Both are like a flower garden . If you dont take time to weed it and care for the flowers , then it will be taken over by the weeds
 
Believe me, when you meet the "one" Love takes on a very special meaning. If you have had bad experience with women, then thats what you will complain about. There are some mighty fine marriages out there. Not all are bad. Be at peace.
To me the vow i made to God is most important . So we work out all the issues ( my wife and i ) . And this means , as a man , i can back down . I dont have to be right all the time , as i am not . Etc etc
 
he also has some very good things to say about finding a good wife

Proverbs 31:10
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels.

Proverbs 19:14
House and wealth are inherited from fathers, but a prudent wife is from the Lord.

Proverbs 12:4
An excellent wife is the crown of her husband, but she who brings shame is like rottenness in his bones.
Dave your quotes are so right, But You must "Hit The Mark" that was spoken by a man and not GOD. but it is recorded in "The Bible" "WHO can find a wife of "Noble Character" "? that is a question. There is not one "excellent wife found in the entirer "Book". And I know you are a elder too, and have read the Bible over a 100 times as a whole just like me. In different translations as well, there are none! There are none righteous No Not One! All have been corrupted!
And if you say: "but a prudent wife is from the Lord" I agree, but what about the rest of the wives? "The woman that was caught in the very act, And then we have "Gomer", Then we have "Rachel", "Leah", and Sarah and do not let us forget "Isaac wife, ReBecca". Yes, God forbid if we forget "Samson's wife"; The Bible said; she was from the LORD.
1Then Samson went down to Timnah and saw a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines. 2So he came back and told his father and mother, “I saw a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines; now therefore, get her for me as a wife.” 3Then his father and his mother said to him, “Is there no woman among the daughters of your relatives, or among all our people, that you go to take a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?” But Samson said to his father, “Get her for me, for she looks good to me.” 4However, his father and mother did not know that it was of the LORD, for He was seeking an occasion against the Philistines


A wife of "Noble Character" is the crown of her husband" does not mean you will not have "Trouble". and cause you long pain. The best of all athletes stumbles when they are running a race, especially when they have a skill sabotager at bay. When we travel this path, called "The WAY" it is not the path that the world travels. Our troubles are more and our troubles are "Divine".[divinely fierce]. A divine oven. That a Holy couple must go through and the chaff must be burn off by fire, a "Holy Fire". selfishness, pride, I am more important than you must be burn off, until there is only a slave left, until total obedience is the only thing left and count it as all joy.

And just because your wife, has been unfaithful does not mean, she is not wise and is Not of "Noble Character".

So what is "SIN"? Sin is "Missing the Mark" We are a strange [peculiar] people, a people not of this world. Our ways are different, our love is different, our peace is different, our language is different, our marriages are different, our goals are different. our desires are different and we are strangers and hated by the people of this world. and we long for home that is located in a far off land. In a land The old folks use to to talk about, In A land called "BEULAH"!

English Revised Version
Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzi-bah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.

Hallelujah in that Land, Called "The Land Beulah" ! Give me that old time religion!

Berean Study Bible
This is what the LORD says: “Stand at the crossroads and look. Ask for the ancient paths: ‘Where is the good way?’ Then walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it!’

My grandmothers and my mother did not have a personal trainer and they had no Gym membership but when you walked in their house, there was apron tied around their waist.. And they live into a ripe old age. and my grandmothers chewed tobacco and everynow and then I saw a small can of Tobacco Snuff in their apron pocket. and they song hymns at the same time and you could smell homemade "Blackberry Cobbler" or Apple Pie" aroma floating through the house. You didn't have to wait for dinner, but just sit down at the kitchen table! And eat that homemade pie and just talk and she would sit there and listen, with such patience and the way she would look at you, a type of love that words cannot explain. and not have to say one corrected word. But leave a peace with you that the worlds counselors cannot give.

"A wife of Noble Character" who can find? She is far more precious than jewels."

And Solomon said:

27“Behold,” says the Teacher, “I have discovered this by adding one thing to another to find an explanation. 28While my soul was still searching but not finding, among a thousand I have found one upright man, but among all these I have not found one such woman. 29Only this have I found: I have discovered that God made men upright, but they have sought out many schemes.” [and he had a Thousand] 700 wives and 300 concubines

And PloughBoy have said; and when you have sense you have found her, she belongs unto another. Summary: "Fear God and Keep His Commandments"

Another saying: "It is better to dwell in a sugar shack with a faithful woman than reign on the Throne with a deceitful Queen"!
 
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