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Alright, lets do it.

Ok Nai. We will do this tomorrow which is Sunday. I may contact you before I go to Church or after. It depends on the timing of the Holy Spirit. Now that I know that you're taking this step of Faith, I need to seek Jesus to prepare me and you for this great spiritual operation of His Spirit.

You are doing exactly what you need to do in preparation to trust Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and that is repenting of past sins. Remember, once your saved, you must not go back into those sins that you're walking away from. Once in a while we all slip back and fall. BUT Jesus picks us up, cleans us up, and forgive us.

Tomorrow, you will be a new Nai, to the praise of our Heavenly Father, and His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

I praise Nick for putting me in your path so that Jesus could extend His arms out to you and say "COME TO ME I'LL MAKE YOU A NEW CREATION".

I Love You Nai,
Chopper :hug
 
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Ok Nai. We will do this tomorrow which is Sunday. I may contact you before I go to Church or after. It depends on the timing of the Holy Spirit. Now that I know that you're taking this step of Faith, I need to seek Jesus to prepare me and you for this great spiritual operation of His Spirit.

You are doing exactly what you need to do in preparation to trust Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and that is repenting of past sins. Remember, once your saved, you must not go back into those sins that you're walking away from. Once in a while we all slip back and fall. BUT Jesus picks us up, cleans us up, and forgive us.

Tomorrow, you will be a new Nai, to the praise of our Heavenly Father, and His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

I praise Nick for putting me in your path so that Jesus could extend His arms out to you and say "COME TO ME I'LL MAKE YOU A NEW CREATION".

I Love You Nai,
Chopper :hug


Sorry, that I was away form the site this weekend, I was very occupied this weekend.


Tomorrow, you will be a new Nai, to the praise of our Heavenly Father, and His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

This actually Reigns true, you see, as of late I forgot who the "Old me" was. When I say that I mean the old me in Jesus. You see, I forgot about my early 20's when I asked God to give me an understanding of the cross (I believe that I was repentant and I know it, among other things, brought about a change in my behavior; however, I allowed a root of bitterness to spring up, because my renewed desire and love for God and the body of Christ was not welcomed by my family).

I forgot about when I was secure about being a child of God and I was holding on to the belief that I needed to have some sin and unrighteousness to be in a relationship. I thought that if I was going to be loved by anyone I would have to compromise (on being holy). I was holding on to sin, And God sent someone to tell me to let it go, let him (a person who I was holding onto sin for, who has ultimately given up on me because I can't hold my sin liqueur, as so to speak) go, and let it go. Now I feel secure again in my salvation because I am not deceiving my self anymore. I do believe that I need to be baptized again. I may ask my pastor this Wednesday.

I am not sure if that is how it works. But, I just know that I don't want to go back to whatever that was before. Please pray that I guard my heart and mind from such error. If what I believe about my salvation is biblically wrong, please let me know.

*hug* thank you for your time and willingness,

Nai
 
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Sorry, that I was away form the site this weekend, I was very occupied this weekend.




This actually Reigns true, you see, as of late I forgot who the "Old me" was. When I say that I mean the old me in Jesus. You see, I forgot about my early 20's when I asked God to give me an understanding of the cross (I believe that I was repentant and I know it, among other things, brought about a change in my behavior; however, I allowed a root of bitterness to spring up, because my renewed desire and love for God and the body of Christ was not welcomed by my family).

I forgot about when I was secure about being a child of God and I was holding on to the belief that I needed to have some sin and unrighteousness to be in a relationship. I thought that if I was going to be loved by anyone I would have to compromise (on being holy). I was holding on to sin, And God sent someone to tell me to let it go, let him (a person who I was holding onto sin for, who has ultimately given up on me because I can't hold my sin liqueur, as so to speak) go, and let it go. Now I feel secure again in my salvation because I am not deceiving my self anymore. I do believe that I need to be baptized again. I may ask my pastor this Wednesday.

I am not sure if that is how it works. But, I just know that I don't want to go back to whatever that was before. Please pray that I guard my heart and mind from such error. If what I believe about my salvation is biblically wrong, please let me know.

*hug* thank you for your time and willingness,

Nai

Thank you for your reply Nai. I took sick Saturday night, and it lasted until last night. Now that my head is clear and I can receive from the Holy Spirit, I'm ready to lead you thru the absolutely no question that you're saved biblically.

There is something in your testimony about being saved that bothers me. I've led folk to Jesus for Salvation for 50 years now. Whenever I hear a testimony that I feel that the enemy of our souls (Satan) has deceived that person, I do just what I'm doing with you. In every case, after receiving a true conversion, those folk are very strong against the deception of that old devil. You will feel the difference when the Holy Spirit hugs you from your inside.

Tomorrow morning, Lord willing, I'll instruct you, what to do for true biblical Salvation. As we go thru this, make notes so you'll be ready to lead others to Jesus for real biblical Salvation.

I love You Nai,
Chopper
:hug
 
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Thank you for your reply Nai. I took sick Saturday night, and it lasted until last night. Now that my head is clear and I can receive from the Holy Spirit, I'm ready to lead you thru the absolutely no question that you're saved biblically.

There is something in your testimony about being saved that bothers me. I've led folk to Jesus for Salvation for 50 years now. Whenever I hear a testimony that I feel that the enemy of our souls (Satan) has deceived that person, I do just what I'm doing with you. In every case, after receiving a true conversion, those folk are very strong against the deception of that old devil. You will feel the difference when the Holy Spirit hugs you from your inside.

Tomorrow morning, Lord willing, I'll instruct you, what to do for true biblical Salvation. As we go thru this, make notes so you'll be ready to lead others to Jesus for real biblical Salvation.

I love You Nai,
Chopper
:hug
Very well. I am at work; Are you currently awake?
 
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Good afternoon Nai. I'm a little late getting back to you, but here I am, and when you get out of work and have some spare time, here's what to do do start your new life in Christ, and know it!

I want to show you a Scripture that proves not everyone who thinks their saved, are! Lets look at God's Word, not my thoughts....Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Nai, I want you to know that there is the true Gospel and a false gospel. These men who will boast that they did mighty works for Jesus, but they were not biblically saved, and Jesus rejected them.

Sorry, I've been in an emergence counseling situation. I'll have to finish tomorrow.
 
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Good afternoon Nai. I'm a little late getting back to you, but here I am, and when you get out of work and have some spare time, here's what to do do start your new life in Christ, and know it!

I want to show you a Scripture that proves not everyone who thinks their saved, are! Lets look at God's Word, not my thoughts....Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Nai, I want you to know that there is the true Gospel and a false gospel. These men who will boast that they did mighty works for Jesus, but they were not biblically saved, and Jesus rejected them.

Sorry, I've been in an emergence counseling situation. I'll have to finish tomorrow.
Seems legit. So what do I do next?
 
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Good afternoon Nai. I'm a little late getting back to you, but here I am, and when you get out of work and have some spare time, here's what to do do start your new life in Christ, and know it!

I want to show you a Scripture that proves not everyone who thinks their saved, are! Lets look at God's Word, not my thoughts....Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Nai, I want you to know that there is the true Gospel and a false gospel. These men who will boast that they did mighty works for Jesus, but they were not biblically saved, and Jesus rejected them.

Sorry, I've been in an emergence counseling situation. I'll have to finish tomorrow.

Seems legit. So what do I do next?

Ok Dear Nai. I'm so sorry that this has taken so long. My guess is that Satan doesn't want to loose you. He's got you to believe you're saved when you're not. Now I'll lead you into real biblical Holy Spirit fired Salvation by His doing, not mine.

First comes confession and repentance. I know from your recent posts that you've done a lot of confessing sins. I want to tell you about that process in the early centuries of Jesus' Churches.

The leaders (Elders) of the local church would select one Elder to spend seven days with each "seeker" who wanted to be saved. This Elder would spend up to seven days for the seeker to know beyond a shadow of a doubt about repentance from the sins that he/she had confessed. Which simply means that they will not go back and PRACTICE those sins. Occasionally they might slip and commit the sin, but not go back and make that sin an every day practice.

That is what you must determine in your heart/mind to do.

Now that you understand the confession of sin and repentance, you are ready to receive Jesus, the Son of God into your heart as your Lord Who will become your Master Owner because you are....

1Co 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
1Co 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,
1Co 6:20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."


Nai, you were bought from sin to righteous living by the shed Blood of Jesus on the cruel cross by His death and resurrection.

If you believe that Jesus, the Son of God died to save you from your sins and forgive you so that you could enter the Kingdom of God, you will be saved....

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10:10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
10:11 For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame."
10:12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him.
10:13 For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


Nai, if you have confessed your sins, and are determined not to go back into them, if you have believed in the Scriptural account of the death, burial, and resurrection of the Son of God, Jesus, and desire in your heart to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior, YOU ARE SAVED!

Now, Jesus has come into your life....Galatians 2:20 "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

Now go from here, knowing that you are biblically saved, away from the grips of Satan, and under the power of Pentecostal power, Go forth and be not ashamed of Jesus, and represent Him to those of whom the Holy Spirit leads you too.

Go in the power of Almighty God Nai, I bless you in the Name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God.
 
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Good afternoon Nai. I'm a little late getting back to you, but here I am, and when you get out of work and have some spare time, here's what to do do start your new life in Christ, and know it!

I want to show you a Scripture that proves not everyone who thinks their saved, are! Lets look at God's Word, not my thoughts....Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Nai, I want you to know that there is the true Gospel and a false gospel. These men who will boast that they did mighty works for Jesus, but they were not biblically saved, and Jesus rejected them.

Sorry, I've been in an emergence counseling situation. I'll have to finish tomorrow.



Ok Dear Nai. I'm so sorry that this has taken so long. My guess is that Satan doesn't want to loose you. He's got you to believe you're saved when you're not. Now I'll lead you into real biblical Holy Spirit fired Salvation by His doing, not mine.

First comes confession and repentance. I know from your recent posts that you've done a lot of confessing sins. I want to tell you about that process in the early centuries of Jesus' Churches.

The leaders (Elders) of the local church would select one Elder to spend seven days with each "seeker" who wanted to be saved. This Elder would spend up to seven days for the seeker to know beyond a shadow of a doubt about repentance from the sins that he/she had confessed. Which simply means that they will not go back and PRACTICE those sins. Occasionally they might slip and commit the sin, but not go back and make that sin an every day practice.

That is what you must determine in your heart/mind to do.

Now that you understand the confession of sin and repentance, you are ready to receive Jesus, the Son of God into your heart as your Lord Who will become your Master Owner because you are....

1Co 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.
1Co 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,
1Co 6:20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body."


Nai, you were bought from sin to righteous living by the shed Blood of Jesus on the cruel cross by His death and resurrection.

If you believe that Jesus, the Son of God died to save you from your sins and forgive you so that you could enter the Kingdom of God, you will be saved....

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10:10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
10:11 For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame."
10:12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him.
10:13 For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


Nai, if you have confessed your sins, and are determined not to go back into them, if you have believed in the Scriptural account of the death, burial, and resurrection of the Son of God, Jesus, and desire in your heart to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior, YOU ARE SAVED!

Now, Jesus has come into your life....Galatians 2:20 "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

Now go from here, knowing that you are biblically saved, away from the grips of Satan, and under the power of Pentecostal power, Go forth and be not ashamed of Jesus, and represent Him to those of whom the Holy Spirit leads you too.

Go in the power of Almighty God Nai, I bless you in the Name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God.
Yay! Praise God, Thank you Brother.
 
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Yay! Praise God, Thank you Brother.

Hey Nai, you're my Sister now. Welcome to God's holy family of true believers in His Son Jesus the Christ. There are Angels in Heaven who are rejoicing over your decision to be truly saved and rejected Satan's attempts to control you. They were watching you all the time.

I have an idea that the Holy Spirit has hugged you from your inside, where He lives. Remember, your body is His Temple that He works out of, using you.

May God bless you in your new life.
 
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Hey Nai, you're my Sister now. Welcome to God's holy family of true believers in His Son Jesus the Christ. There are Angels in Heaven who are rejoicing over your decision to be truly saved and rejected Satan's attempts to control you. They were watching you all the time.

I have an idea that the Holy Spirit has hugged you from your inside, where He lives. Remember, your body is His Temple that He works out of, using you.

May God bless you in your new life.
Thank you :)
 
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Lol, Praise God Brother, Praise God.

A good study, now that Jesus has led you to true Salvation, is Romans Chapter eight. There you will learn how to live and walk in the Holy Spirit which is important for you right now.

I Love You,
Chopper
 
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A good study, now that Jesus has led you to true Salvation, is Romans Chapter eight. There you will learn how to live and walk in the Holy Spirit which is important for you right now.

I Love You,
Chopper
Thank you, And I love you too (or I would hope I do). I believe that love is something that I need to work on.
 
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Thank you, And I love you too (or I would hope I do). I believe that love is something that I need to work on.
I understand Nai. We learn genuine love from the Author of love, Jesus. He loved you so much that He went thru a cruel beating and allowed cruel men to nail Him to the cross.

O my, Love? O yes. He died for you, and since I'm His Shepherd to you, I would die for you as well. You're my Sister. ALL your sins have been forgiven and you're brand new today. Your life before God is clean and righteous, and God has prepared a special place for you to spend eternity with Jesus. Someday, you and I will meet in the New Jerusalem, I'll give you a big hug.
 
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I understand Nai. We learn genuine love from the Author of love, Jesus. He loved you so much that He went thru a cruel beating and allowed cruel men to nail Him to the cross.

O my, Love? O yes. He died for you, and since I'm His Shepherd to you, I would die for you as well. You're my Sister. ALL your sins have been forgiven and you're brand new today. Your life before God is clean and righteous, and God has prepared a special place for you to spend eternity with Jesus. Someday, you and I will meet in the New Jerusalem, I'll give you a big hug.
Yay! What happens if I do sin though? How does that work?

Hebrews 10:26-27
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

This verse seems accurate.
 
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Yay! What happens if I do sin though? How does that work?

Hebrews 10:26-27
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

This verse seems accurate.

That's a good question. These two verses have three companion verses in Hebrews 6....
Hebrews 6:4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."


Meaning: Hebrews was written to the Jewish Christians who were dispersed throughout the region because of persecution. These Jews had left their very familiar system of sacrifices, and adopted Christ Jesus as their High Priest and Him as their only sacrifice.

There were Judiazers that were constantly after these converted Jews to return to their first system of worship of Yahweh. Therefore some of them were apostatizing, leaving their worshiping of Jesus and returning to Moses Laws and Commandments. Once they did that, there was no return.

Now about your question about what happens when you sin....
1John 1:8 " If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

If you sin, Jesus will forgive those sins because He is your sacrifice for sins.
 
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..forget those things which are behind, and reach forth unto those things which are before, press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 3:13-14)

[for me anyway] as becoming a penitent sinner having turned away from being an impenitent sinner, we now daily shall battle against sin with denying our own will, and repenting and owning our sins when we sin, and submitting to and relying upon the Word of God, seeing that faith comes only by hearing God's Word: for now in Christ we no longer put our trust into the hands and power of sin, but into the hands and power of God. And though we may yet fall several times, yet because we are sincere toward God, we shall rise right back up into our sincere submission to the Lord: because we know that it is the insincere, the wicked who are the ones that when they fall, they fall into mischief. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
(1 John 1:8)
(Luke 9:23)
(1 John 3:8-9)
(Proverbs 24:16)
(Romans 10:17)
 
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That's a good question. These two verses have three companion verses in Hebrews 6....
Hebrews 6:4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."


Meaning: Hebrews was written to the Jewish Christians who were dispersed throughout the region because of persecution. These Jews had left their very familiar system of sacrifices, and adopted Christ Jesus as their High Priest and Him as their only sacrifice.

There were Judiazers that were constantly after these converted Jews to return to their first system of worship of Yahweh. Therefore some of them were apostatizing, leaving their worshiping of Jesus and returning to Moses Laws and Commandments. Once they did that, there was no return.

Now about your question about what happens when you sin....
1John 1:8 " If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

If you sin, Jesus will forgive those sins because He is your sacrifice for sins.
..forget those things which are behind, and reach forth unto those things which are before, press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 3:13-14)

[for me anyway] as becoming a penitent sinner having turned away from being an impenitent sinner, we now daily shall battle against sin with denying our own will, and repenting and owning our sins when we sin, and submitting to and relying upon the Word of God, seeing that faith comes only by hearing God's Word: for now in Christ we no longer put our trust into the hands and power of sin, but into the hands and power of God. And though we may yet fall several times, yet because we are sincere toward God, we shall rise right back up into our sincere submission to the Lord: because we know that it is the insincere, the wicked who are the ones that when they fall, they fall into mischief. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
(1 John 1:8)
(Luke 9:23)
(1 John 3:8-9)
(Proverbs 24:16)
(Romans 10:17)
Thanks you guys :)
 
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That's a good question. These two verses have three companion verses in Hebrews 6....
Hebrews 6:4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."


Meaning: Hebrews was written to the Jewish Christians who were dispersed throughout the region because of persecution. These Jews had left their very familiar system of sacrifices, and adopted Christ Jesus as their High Priest and Him as their only sacrifice.

There were Judiazers that were constantly after these converted Jews to return to their first system of worship of Yahweh. Therefore some of them were apostatizing, leaving their worshiping of Jesus and returning to Moses Laws and Commandments. Once they did that, there was no return.

Now about your question about what happens when you sin....
1John 1:8 " If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

If you sin, Jesus will forgive those sins because He is your sacrifice for sins.
Would this also apply to Christians who go to other religions More like leave the truth/God/ the way of righteousness etc.. than "go to other religions," but I digress) and come back? Or does that mean that they were never saved?

1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 
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