Greetings
@Dave M ,
Brother Bac thank you for clearing that up, I can see from you post I have been totally mis- understood and have done a bad job at getting you to see my point on Grace. It is nothing like you stated in the above. I have tried to communicate the law is something that is for us to reveal our sinful nature and that no man can possibly keep the law therefore no man is worthy. Yes its great obedience to try to keep it, and yes Saved people will sin, but will not live in sin. Heaven is something man is not capable of obtaining on our own, but only through Jesus , but since its impossible for us to keep the Law we need Jesus. If someone keeps on sinning, like you suggest I was saying ( i was not) then I would argue you are not saved. But we will still struggle with sin just not on the same level we once were.
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
God Bless I am sorry if I have not made my points clear or have come across argumentative but I love the word of God and discussing it, I do find coming here its seems to be much more arguing then fellowship in my case which is no good,
Brother,
I for one most certainly have not seen you as argumentative, not here in this thread nor any other threads.
One of the setbacks with forums is no matter how you (anyone) might write something it is always possible that those who read what you (anyone) write, can think that it is argumentative or attacking other members or being judgmental or rude BUT many times we can be completely mistaken.
One of the difficult parts of moderating, for example, is knowing what spirit a post has been written and submitted with and at the same time, remain neutral, not taking sides nor offense. I confess that I can get it wrong but I do have it in my choice to make amends or not, as all members do. The problem is that sometimes it can be too late as the nature of the internet makes it impossible to contact someone if they decide they are not participating any longer, so we all need to be more prayerful about how we interact.
Sometimes members ignore you and either are too scared to reply or can't be bothered, which is impolite but again, this is the internet.
Then there are scenarios where a question is asked and someone else replies 'on your behalf'.
Dave M, rest assured that you have done nothing wrong. I for one appreciate your input and desire to learn and grow with what comes across as humility. In fact , if others followed your example it could be much more productive.
We can all get so involved in a discussion that we can forget that TalkJesus is a place for online fellowship.
Some think that the grass is greener on the other side but I think you'll find that it is greener where you water it!
Grace and Peace be multiplied to you in Jesus name,
Bless you ....><>
