Why is it ok to eat shrimp but not to be gay??

[Jesusloverboy]

Deuteronomy 14:9-10
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you."

This is what it is absolutely not eat shrimp for God but many Christians do it anyways.
And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals , but God does not like shrimp just as gays Is not it a bit hypocritical ??

Sorry for my English but I have wondered about this so long and now someone can answer my question!
Appreciate all answers!
God bless

 

[Travis]

Shrimp is potentially bad for your body, your flesh.

Homosexuality will blow up your soul. It will probably be bad for your flesh in

 

[Waggles]

And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals

Wow OK-
1. there is a big difference between health and hygiene laws to protect people from salmonella ingestion and the like in ancient times before public health systems came into place,
and what is unhealthy and destructive to one's soul and will lead to spiritual death/condemnation.

Matthew 15:17 Do you not yet understand that whatever enters in at the mouth goes into the belly, and is cast out into the waste-bowl?
15:18 But the things which come out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile the man.
15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies;
15:20 these are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.

2. the Law given to Moses instituting the Levitical priesthood and temple sacrifices, along with dietary laws, and governing an identifiable nation of chosen people ISRAEL
as a holy nation separate and distinct from all other heathen nations, was finished and done away with when Jesus died on the cross at Calvary and brought in the New Testament,
that is a New Covenant ( through receiving the Holy Spirit and now available to gentiles).
Read Hebrews - explains much of this...

After Jesus we are not under the Law in terms of lifestyle regulations as the New Testament has now been instituted to embrace the whole world and many peoples
from many cultures... in order for the New Testament to be accepted by gentiles then lifestyle laws on dress, foods, beards, circumcision, phylacteries, etc. etc. etc.
needed to be done away with - the New Testament was no longer about being a Jew obeying the Law of Moses [read Galatians].

Acts 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


MORAL law concerning what is sinful and offensive to God still applies. The Law is now written on our hearts and we comply to do it willingly, [read Romans] as opposed to
being stoned to death for a long list of infringements. Jesus came into the world to save us from our sins. Repent and be baptized in water and the Holy Spirit, and then
go on to deny oneself and through the Holy Spirit overcome sin and temptation. To be a Christian does not mean that we can remain as willful sinners and call on grace to excuse this.

Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year
continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
0:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
14:18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.

1Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past,
that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

 

[B-A-C]

There are some things that changed between the Old and New testaments.
But we can't just say everything changed. A lot of things in the Old Testament are repeated in the New testament.
However food is one of the things that changed.

Acts 10:10; But he became hungry and was desiring to eat; but while they were making preparations, he fell into a trance;
Acts 10:11; and he *saw the sky opened up, and an object like a great sheet coming down, lowered by four corners to the ground,
Acts 10:12; and there were in it all kinds of four-footed animals and crawling creatures of the earth and birds of the air.
Acts 10:13; A voice came to him, "Get up, Peter, kill and eat!"
Acts 10:14; But Peter said, "By no means, Lord, for I have never eaten anything unholy and unclean."
Acts 10:15; Again a voice came to him a second time, "What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy."
Acts 10:16; This happened three times, and immediately the object was taken up into the sky.
Acts 10:17; Now while Peter was greatly perplexed in mind as to what the vision which he had seen might be, ...

Things that weren't OK to eat in the Old Testament, became OK to eat after the new covenant took effect.
Some other things changed as well, for example in Exod 21:24; and Lev 24:20; you were allow to take vengeance
on people who had caused you harm. An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
But this is another thing that changed in the New testament. Matt 5:38-44;

All of the 10 commandments except one are repeated in the New Testament. Some are modified slightly, for example
in Exod 20, verse 14 of the original 10 commandments says "do not commit adultery".
In Matt 5:27; Jesus is quoting that verse. However he modifies it in the next verse ( Matt 5:28; )
Even so, we still aren't supposed to commit adultery.

 

[B-A-C]

Homosexuality and being effeminate are mentioned in the Old Testament a few times.
Lev 18:22; Deut 22:5; Lev 20:13; etc...

But of course these are still in effect in the New testament.. there are several verses like...

1 Tim 1:9; realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers
1 Tim 1:10; and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching,

1 Cor 6:9; Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1 Cor 6:10; nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Rom 1:26; For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
Rom 1:27; and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Rom 1:28; And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
Rom 1:32; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

 

[Emilia]

Deuteronomy 14:9-10
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you."

This is what it is absolutely not eat shrimp for God but many Christians do it anyways.
And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals , but God does not like shrimp just as gays Is not it a bit hypocritical ??

Sorry for my English but I have wondered about this so long and now someone can answer my question!
Appreciate all answers!
God bless

God is not hypocritical. People are: Like you said "They eat shrimp and then point a finger at homosexuals saying god does not like them"? It reminds me of the story in the bible in the book of John 8:7

Jesus faced a mob that was eager to execute a woman caught in adultery. He put a stop to it with a simple challenge: anyone who has no sin in their life should step forward and throw the first stone.
That sentence is often cited as a reminder to avoid judging others when there are faults in your own life that need to be addressed. The homosexuals may say to the shrimp eating loving people: what makes your sin better than mine? It doesn't really. A sin is a sin just as there is no white and black lie; it is what it is. We also tend to forget that god dislikes the "Act" not the people as he is always just to forgive.

 

[Lanolin]

If you are Jewish and abide by the old covenant then yes eating shrimp and being homosexual are both unclean for you.
If you are christian and in the new convenant both these sins are covered by the blood of the lamb. God took away the restriction on food, all foods are now clean when eaten with thanksgiving to God. But God did not say its ok to be homosexual. If you are, then you need to repent and ask Jesus to wash away that sin, it's paid for with his blood.
You do not need to practise that sin anymore, its bad for you. He can set you free.

 

[Ophel]

Deuteronomy 14:9-10
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you."

This is what it is absolutely not eat shrimp for God but many Christians do it anyways.
And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals , but God does not like shrimp just as gays Is not it a bit hypocritical ??

Sorry for my English but I have wondered about this so long and now someone can answer my question!
Appreciate all answers!
God bless

We can eat shrimp until the cows come home because we are not Israelites who could fall ill by eating them. They are scavengers of the sea and can cause one to get sick. Israelites were in a health and fitness program that God had set up for them to preserve and protect them. Do you know that even their shoes and clothing didn't wear out during that entire 40 years?

Today we have good cleaning, storage and cooking methods that kill bacteria. We are not wandering in the wilderness today, nor are we under that set of rules any more. We are free to eat any thing that once was declared unclean.

Go for it. Don't bind yourself up with needless things.

As for homosexuality, the harm in it is still in existence. The soul is destroyed in those who go against God's best for them in such a degrading way.

 

[robaston]

Amen to your freeness. against God's best for them in such a degrading way.i would use the repulsive

 

[Dovegiven]

Deuteronomy 14:9-10
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you."

This is what it is absolutely not eat shrimp for God but many Christians do it anyways.
And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals , but God does not like shrimp just as gays Is not it a bit hypocritical ??

Sorry for my English but I have wondered about this so long and now someone can answer my question!
Appreciate all answers!
God bless

For the purpose of putting your question in proper perspective, let me rephrase it.

Why is it OK to eat shrimp but not be a murderer, rapist, child molester, homosexual, etc.?

 

[Ophel]

For the purpose of putting your question in proper perspective, let me rephrase it.

Why is it OK to eat shrimp but not be a murderer, rapist, child molester, homosexual, etc.?

@Jesusloverboy

See post #8.

To God, there is no more Jew or Gentile. We are not under the Law anymore. We are all on a level playing field: people who need to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

Shellfish was a danger to eat because of bacteria. God was in a building program---building up His people, Israel to be a great nation. Sickness and death due to poor food, and no proper methods of storage would be a bad thing for this roving nation. As for the other things---they are sins that contravene morality. Impurity of one's soul, and body---not to mention invading another's body and soul.. That is never good.

 

[Dovegiven]

Deuteronomy 14:9-10
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you."

This is what it is absolutely not eat shrimp for God but many Christians do it anyways.
And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals , but God does not like shrimp just as gays Is not it a bit hypocritical ??

Sorry for my English but I have wondered about this so long and now someone can answer my question!
Appreciate all answers!
God bless

The New Testament defines the doctrines of Christianity.

The dietary laws of the Jews were not supported under the New Covenant, except for consumption of blood even meat of strangled animals, and meat offered to idols.

Crimes against humanity were reaffirmed as sin in the New Covenant. Those have no good reason to be dismissed or reclassified as righteousness. Even most world religions agree on the basic set of morality the Bible presents.

All forms of sexual conduct not prescribed by God is sin. The Bible in Acts 15 forbids all fornication, which is a general term for sexual indecency including incest, adultery, carnal exposure (incl. public nudity), festival sexual dances & acts, homosexuality, and other acts such as what we today label as even "carnal knowledge". A person can still go to prison for even that last sin. There are people in our county that are required to keep a "Sexual Offender" sign in front of their residence if convicted for one of many sexual offenses. They are required to report any change of address, and are not permitted to be close to any school.

So what excuse do the 2% of American citizens classed as homosexuals have before God, and man?

 

[Dovegiven]

See post #8.

To God, there is no more Jew or Gentile. We are not under the Law anymore. We are all on a level playing field: people who need to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

Shellfish was a danger to eat because of bacteria. God was in a building program---building up His people, Israel to be a great nation. Sickness and death due to poor food, and no proper methods of storage would be a bad thing for this roving nation. As for the other things---they are sins that contravene morality. Impurity of one's soul, and body---not to mention invading another's body and soul.. That is never good.

So God didn't care about Noah's health? Where does the law say there's a potential of disease from eating catfish? It doesn't. Let's not make stuff up.

The Hebrews watched the gentiles seine shrimp, cook it, eat it, and live long lives. Nothing about that has changed. The Jew could eat a chicken raised properly, yet today might die from one of 5 strains of salmonella on chicken.

None of the dietary laws were instated because of health hazards. They were set to distinguish the Hebrews apart from Gentiles.

The dietary law called beef clean, though today beef has far more deadly potential than shrimp or pork. Consider Mad Cow disease, and Ebola, to name but a few pests invading beef. We can eat critters with high cholesterol content without adding to human cholesterol counts. That's a science fact. The only concern is the saturated fat, which if consumed in excess can cause a high body fat/high blood sugar/ high triglyceride problem for sedentary people, which in turn causes raised cholesterol problems, then diabetes, and heart disease. You can get there on beef or any other "clean" food.

 

[Ophel]

So God didn't care about Noah's health? Where does the law say there's a potential of disease from eating catfish? It doesn't. Let's not make stuff up.

The Hebrews watched the gentiles seine shrimp, cook it, eat it, and live long lives. Nothing about that has changed. The Jew could eat a chicken raised properly, yet today might die from one of 5 strains of salmonella on chicken.

None of the dietary laws were instated because of health hazards. They were set to distinguish the Hebrews apart from Gentiles.

The dietary law called beef clean, though today beef has far more deadly potential than shrimp or pork. Consider Mad Cow disease, and Ebola, to name but a few pests invading beef. We can eat critters with high cholesterol content without adding to human cholesterol counts. That's a science fact. The only concern is the saturated fat, which if consumed in excess can cause a high body fat/high blood sugar/ high triglyceride problem for sedentary people, which in turn causes raised cholesterol problems, then diabetes, and heart disease. You can get there on beef or any other "clean" food.

Pretty much all of the dietary laws were based on health.

 

[Dovegiven]

Pretty much all of the dietary laws were based on health.

Show me some scripture about that. The apostles received permission to abandon that diet with no mention of health issues, without curses. Where did Moses link the diet to health issues?

 

[Ophel]

The health consequences ARE the curses.

Because of Christ, we are free if any curse.

 

[Dovegiven]

The health consequences ARE the curses.

Because of Christ, we are free if any curse.

Efficient apologetics are key to educating people who have poorly based opinions about the Bible. It's counterproductive to make a firm statement that can't be supported with scripture and/or science. That's why I'm persisting on this one point.

The Bible doesn't say the Law imposed dietary restrictions on the basis of health. The whole of it, including the dietary commands, were put in place to distinguish the Hebrews from the other nations, and were all commands to be obeyed simply out of covenant relationship with God in a way not possible outside Israel.

Ancient fishermen were abundant in OT Bible days, all sorts of fish and even shrimp available to the Gentiles from the beginning. Animals that were prohibited of the Hebrews were regular fare for the rest of the world. If there was a general health hazard around any animal commonly harvested to feed the masses, it would have been a matter of record that they avoided those foods. Yet, they never stopped eating pork, lacking refrigeration and pasteurization until recent modern times.

The latest knowledge about shrimp is though it's high in cholesterol, eating it won't raise our serum level. But the saturated fat can raise LDL, lower HDL if consumed in excess. The protein value is very good. Boiled or grilled is best, while frying it eliminates most of the nutritional value.

All meat, including "clean" animals, has always been subject to spoilage from bacteria. Ancients typically sold, for instance, live animals so the buyer could know it's probably free of pathogens if processed properly at home. They still do across most continents where refrigeration is still not common, even the EU.

A highly prized "clean" animal, beef, was always sacrificed immediately after killing, never presented already dead.
I find it necessary to emphasize this last point.

Beef is the commonly available meat that can kill a human within hours of eating it if it has Mad Cow pathogens, E. Coli, or certain toxins that can't be neutralized by cooking. The list of dangers is growing, especially across Europe.

So if "clean" animals are still considered "clean" for health reasons, why do you suppose none of it blessed in general now? We can't say because of sin, since that was the big problem in Moses' day.

The fact is that God never linked Gentiles to the Mosaic diet, and excluded Gentiles from the approved food list meant for Israel alone. If there was an inherent health risk to a food, that would have been known among all nations. God would not deceive mankind about food safety after telling Noah he could eat anything moving.

Here's the Gentile diet from God: Genesis 9:3-4 (KJV)
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

There is no record of scriptures commanding the Gentile world to obey the Jew's diet commandments. Most descendants of Noah were not Jews, but were Gentiles who were by that commandment permitted to eat both clean and unclean animals.

That ought to be convincing that God didn't make those commandments on the basis of health. Considering that the health of Noah and his family would have been a high priority, set to replace the human population, they would have been instructed about health hazards. It can't be that blood itself was or is hazardous, since it's highly difficult to remove all of it from an animal, so it carried a special spiritual protection.

 

[B-A-C]

Technically there were no Jews or Gentiles in the time of Noah... In fact Jews didn't exist until Isaac/Jacob.
The laws of Lev 11:9-12; didn't take effect until after the Jews had been in captivity in Egypt for over 400
years. It's possible they ate "shrimp" before this time.

When Gentiles of the old testament became "believers" (adherents to Judaism)... they had to follow Jewish law.
They even had to be circumcised. They had to do sacrifice to priests for sin just like the Jews.

Peter knew this law... but he was released from it (as we all are) in Acts 10:10-16;

 

[Ophel]

God called all foods that had the potential to cause health problems UNCLEAN. BY adhering to His dietary laws, lives were elongated, and preserved from sickness or from just basic wearing out, for the many years they sojourned in the desert.

The book, "The Maker's Diet" fully details this, and it is amazing how people who actually follow the way of eating prescribed for Israel experience new levels of vibrant health and even healing.

 

[Bendito]

Deuteronomy 14:9-10
“Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you."

This is what it is absolutely not eat shrimp for God but many Christians do it anyways.
And the Christians who eat shrimp also dislike homosexuality and says that God does not like homosexuals , but God does not like shrimp just as gays Is not it a bit hypocritical ??

Sorry for my English but I have wondered about this so long and now someone can answer my question!
Appreciate all answers!
God bless

LOL I love this question!! Look my friend.....Homosexuality is a sin. Still God loves the person even while hating the sin. Thus we do too. We love the person and hate the sin.
Shrimp on the other hand are not sin. They are food and God declared many foods good after Jesus died for us and rose again. Look here:
Acts 10:10-15 (CJB)
10 He began to feel hungry and wanted something to eat; but while they were preparing the meal, he fell into a trance 11 in which he saw heaven opened, and something that looked like a large sheet being lowered to the ground by its four corners. 12 In it were all kinds of four-footed animals, crawling creatures and wild birds. 13 Then a voice came to him, “Get up, Kefa, slaughter and eat!” 14 But Kefa said, “No, sir! Absolutely not! I have never eaten food that was unclean or treif.” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time: “Stop treating as unclean what God has made clean.”
So here's Kefa, Peter.. On the rood praying and getting faint with hunger and what happens? God lowered a vessel with all these formerly forbidden foods (say that fast 3 times) are now allowed. That took Peter by surprise! So there is no hypocrisy involved. Does this answer?