Why is Adam blamed?

[pajaro]

Why is Adam blamed for the fall of mankind when 1 Titus 2:14 says, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

 

[WaterRock]

Adam knew it was the LORD speaking since the Word comes from the spirit within the flesh. Like Jesus said he that is of God hears God's words....

 

[Travis]

Thanks for all the good questions parajo,

I think Adam was rightfully blamed because he was in the wrong completely. He loved his wife more than God and God's law. He also failed to protect and watch out for his wife, who I'm pretty sure was named Eve. Though some may disagree with that last statement.

Blessings,

Travis

 

[WaterRock]

LOL, Honestly, it makes no difference to me, it isn't like I called their name Adam in the day there were created. And I wasn't the one who gave the Woman the new name of Eve after eating of the tree.

But when Paul wrote Adam who wasn't deceived but the Woman, you probably think the woman was the female named eve. As if a male and female can give a child a soul.
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.2 Cor 11:3
For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? Rom 3:7
Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:2 Tim 2:8

 

[amadeus2]

If we sin blindly it is still sin, but when we sin knowingly is not our fault all the greater?

"And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him." Numb 15:28

"But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people." Numb 15:30

 

[Curtis]

Why is Adam blamed for the fall of mankind when 1 Titus 2:14 says, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

There are two ways you can sin.
(1) By not doing what you know you are suppose to do. "James 4:17.. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. "
(2) By doing something you are not suppose to do.

Adam did both. He failed to do what God told to do by protecting the garden. He failed when he ate from the tree God commanded him not to.
Adam being the "head" of his wife was the "responsible party"

 

[Nang]

Why is Adam blamed for the fall of mankind when 1 Titus 2:14 says, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

Hello Pajaro,

Excellent question . . Adam was blamed because God created him not only in authority over his wife, but God created Adam as federal head and representative of all his offspring.

All humanity are his descendants, and because Adam sinned, sin was imputed to all his children.

This is an important truth, for without understanding the significance and importance of Adam representing the human race, we cannot understand the last Adam, Jesus Christ, as representing all His spiritual children as Mediator.

Through Him alone, can righteousness be imputed to offset our sins.

This federal representation of the two "Adams" is taught in Romans 5:12-21 and in I Corinthians 15:45-49.

May God bless these teachings to you and give you His answer!

 

[Dovegiven]

Why is Adam blamed for the fall of mankind when 1 Titus 2:14 says, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

He wasn't "blamed", but was declared guilty by God. It takes the rest of the Bible to explain why he was guilty, and what it took for God to get his man (men and women) back into that original relationship.

I really don't think his sin, which was simply taking part in the sin of another, was any greater than that of Judas Iscariot or Peter. Judas didn't repent, so died in his own remorse. Peter repented, so was put back to the ministry work. Adam could have, better should have, repented. All he showed was remorse, guilt, hiding behind a fig leaf.

I hope not one soul reading this is living a crushed life, depressed over some bad choice, living under some loudspeakers with the Devil on the microphone, explaining why that sin in the past has made you useless to God.

Turn the amplifier off, silence those speakers. Ignore him, for if you are in Christ, he has nothing in you but lies. If all he has against you is a sin that you have repented of, then he has nothing at all, no power over you, no valid blame.

But when we turn the blame amplifier back on, we live under blame, convinced we are still guilty, needing punishment.

Adam shouldered the conviction, rightly blamed by Satan, rightly guilty before God.

But Jesus rightly shouldered the punishment, the full blame and guilt of it all....because only he could....and rise again to serve the living God.

Arise! You don't have to wait for next Easter. Repent, quit it, overcome it in Christ Jesus. Stop playing the Blame Game the Devil wants to play with you.

 

[Chad]

Thanks for all the good questions parajo,

I think Adam was rightfully blamed because he was in the wrong completely. He loved his wife more than God and God's law. He also failed to protect and watch out for his wife, who I'm pretty sure was named Eve. Though some may disagree with that last statement.

Blessings,

Travis

In agreement with this. For us now, we cannot use an excuse like "born in sin" anytime we do sin. We're guilty of all of our sinful actions. We can't blame Adam & Eve or claim nonsense like some have said, "the devil made me do it".

 

[WaterRock]

Just checked Adam's rap sheet, looks like he got 935 years for eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Gen 5:1-5
5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

935 years? Is that good or bad... Do I need a lawyer or what? Or a counselor since Genesis 2:17 says this, while that in 2 Peter 3:8 says
that while Eccl 6:6 says twice told.



All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Tim 3:16

 

[Nang]

Adam was given an inescapable death sentence as payment for his sin, but lived 935 years consigned to this death sentence before his actual physical death, only because God provided temporal atonement through the offerings of substitutional blood offerings (Genesis 3:21), which allowed he and his offspring to procreate, that eventually led to the last Adam, the Savior Jesus Christ, born of woman, as promised. (Genesis 3:15, 20)

 

[Travis]

LOL, Honestly, it makes no difference to me, it isn't like I called their name Adam in the day there were created. And I wasn't the one who gave the Woman the new name of Eve after eating of the tree.

Really that's it, that's all you were trying to say?

ROFL! I had no idea where you were going with that one. My curiosity is too strong to not ask though. I was going to make some joke about Adam marrying his rib or something eariler, and decided not to.... I regret that decision now...

Any who, before I get scolded for being off topic or something.... what were we talking about? O yes, Adam was much more at fault than his rib was.....

*Ducks before any woman can throw a book or telephone at my pertty face for being an ignoramus.*

Blessings!

Travis

 

[Travis]

Adam was given an inescapable death sentence as payment for his sin, but lived 935 years consigned to this death sentence before his actual physical death, only because God provided temporal atonement through the offerings of substitutional blood offerings (Genesis 3:21), which allowed he and his offspring to procreate, that eventually led to the last Adam, the Savior Jesus Christ, born of woman, as promised. (Genesis 3:15, 20)

Amen Amen!

Hebrews 10
3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. 5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me; 6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure.​

 

[WaterRock]

Adam was given an inescapable death sentence as payment for his sin, but lived 935 years consigned to this death sentence before his actual physical death, only because God provided temporal atonement through the offerings of substitutional blood offerings (Genesis 3:21), which allowed he and his offspring to procreate, that eventually led to the last Adam, the Savior Jesus Christ, born of woman, as promised. (Genesis 3:15, 20)

You subscribe to Matt 4:4 right? If not mistaken, Rev 13:8 says the names of those written in that book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.1 Cor 15:22
Now that would include Adam too?

 

[WaterRock]

Really that's it, that's all you were trying to say?

I was going to make some joke about Adam marrying his rib or something eariler, and decided not to....

I heard one about when Thomas thrust his hand into the side of Jesus and when pulling it out grabbed a rib plucked it out a and handed to Jesus and said a blonde please...

 

[Curtis]

Adam died the same day he ate from the tree God commanded him not to. Not physical death, but spiritual death. The first sign of spiritual death came in the form of "fear".

Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

All those who are "fearful" will be cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Fear is the opposite of faith. Fear hath "torment". Who ever "fears" has not been made perfect in love.
God has not given to us a spirit of fear.

 

[WaterRock]

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week,
when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews,
came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side.
Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
John 20:19-20

 

[Curtis]

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week,
when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews,
came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side.
Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
John 20:19-20

Spiritual death, does not mean physical death. Spiritual death happens when a heart goes from light to darkness.(Romans 1:21)
Satan and all his fallen angels are dwelling in darkness. We were once darkness, but now we are light.....

Eph 5:8 for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light

 

[Nang]

You subscribe to Matt 4:4 right? If not mistaken, Rev 13:8 says the names of those written in that book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.1 Cor 15:22
Now that would include Adam too?

I honestly don't know if Jesus Christ pardoned, redeemed, and justified Adam or not.

Do you?

All Scripture reveals, is that a remnant of Adam's offspring, called out of all the nations, were written in the Lamb's Book of Life. (Revelation 5:9 and 7:9)

 

[Travis]

I certainly expect to see Adam numbered amongst the sheep on the last day. I won't be giving it a second thought if he isnt because when we all meet Jesus everything will then make sense, and no one will accuse God of any injustice.