Why I Don't Celebrate Christmas

[Sue J Love]

It really has nothing to do with the pagan roots of the holiday. That is in the past. What I object to and what I believe God objects to is what is happening in the present.

The Focus on Santa Claus

For one, Christmas is primarily about Santa Claus. It does not matter if you have never done the “Santa thing.” For, the celebration of the birth of Christ is being shared side by side with the celebration of a false god who his creators made him out to be a god like God. And who wanted to be God? Satan (Santa).

We all know the lyrics to the song, “He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you’re awake. He knows when you’ve been bad or good, so be good for goodness’ sake.” But only God is all seeing and all knowing. Yet, Santa’s creators gave him God’s attributes of being all powerful, all knowing, and present everywhere (he is all over the world in a single night).

All throughout Scripture God chided his people for mixing celebrations of him with celebrations of idols. And, even in the New Testament we are told that we can’t share in the cup of demons and the cup of the Lord at the same time (1 Corinthians 10:1-22; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18), which is exactly what Christmas is about, the blending of worship of Christ with idols.

The goal of Santa’s creators is to steal the hearts of people away from the One and Only True God to follow after them and their false god, instead. So, while Jesus Christ is pictured as a helpless baby in a manger doing nothing but just lying there, Santa comes on the scene in all his glory. He is able to ride through the sky on a sleigh and to deliver gifts to children all across the globe in a single night (compare this to Isaiah 14:12-14).

And he asks children across the world to write him letters (like prayers) requesting what they want from him, too. And, children, who have long awaited his return, are anxiously anticipating his soon arrival (like Jesus’ return one day). Again, mimicking God and supplanting Jesus Christ. This is on purpose!

And if you ask most children, at least here in America, what it is about Christmas that they look forward to, it really has nothing or very little to do with Jesus Christ other than they may associate Christmas with nativity scenes, and they may have been told that it is a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. But that isn’t what they normally get excited about.

The Celebration of Jesus Christ

How did Jesus say he wants to be celebrated? After all, if it is truly his birthday, which it isn’t, don’t people generally ask the birthday boy and girl how they want to celebrate their birthdays? Shouldn’t that be a consideration here? Shouldn’t we inquire of the Lord as to how he wants us to honor him?

Before Jesus was crucified on a cross for our sins he gave instructions to his disciples regarding how he wanted to be remembered. They participated with him in something we call “communion” today. And he told them to “Do this in remembrance of me.” They were to partake symbolically in Jesus’ death in the drinking of the wine and the eating of the bread which symbolized his blood and his body which were given for us on that cross.

But this wasn’t just about a physical act of drinking and eating, but this has to do with us participating with Christ in his death and resurrection by God’s grace, through God-given faith in Jesus Christ. This has to do with us dying daily with Christ to sin and to self and us living with Christ in walks of obedience to him and to his commands (Romans 6:1-23; Luke 9:23-26).

“I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.” (Romans 12:1-2)

This is how Jesus wants to be celebrated. He wants us to die with him to sin, and live to him and to his righteousness. He wants us to give our lives to him as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to him, which is our spiritual (or acceptable) worship of him. And to worship Jesus is to adore, love, reverence, respect, fear, esteem, obey, and pay tribute to him.

And he wants us no longer conformed to this world. And celebrating Christmas is being conformed to the world, for it is doing not only what God doesn’t require, but it is doing a lot of what he instructs us not to do, which especially has to do with trying to celebrate his birth on a day when the world and many Christians also celebrate a false god (Santa/Satan).

I mean, think about this with me for a moment. Do you truly believe that Jesus is honored by most of the traditions of the Christmas holiday? Do you think that he wants us to go out and buy up a bunch of gifts for people who may or may not even appreciate or even need what we bought them, especially if it means going into debt to do so?

Do you think he is honored by our gift giving? How is that celebrating his birth? When it is your birthday, who gets the gifts? Does everyone sit around a room ignoring you and what you want, giving gifts to each other, then eating more food than they need, and perhaps some of them getting drunk? Do they then sit and watch movies and play games and not include you?

Do you know the gift the Lord Jesus wants you to give others? It isn’t toys and games and movies, most of which dishonor him, if truth be told. He wants you to give others the gift of the gospel of Jesus Christ so that they can be saved from their sins and walk with him in holiness free from their addiction to sin, and thus have eternal life with God.

That is what Jesus cares about. That is what he wants from us, but not one day a year but every day. He wants our all on the altar of sacrifice laid, our hearts under the Spirit’s control. He wants us walking in obedience to his commands and us forsaking our sins. And he wants us sharing Jesus with others and encouraging our brothers and sisters in the Lord to walk with him in holiness and righteousness and not in sin.

I mean, read your Bibles. The Jesus of the Scriptures is not to be celebrated as a helpless baby in a manger while all powerful false god Santa Claus flies through the air and brings gifts to children all over the world in a single night. If you think Jesus is okay with that, then you don’t really know him, not intimately. And you don’t know his word and what it teaches.

So, Why Don’t I Celebrate?

So, why don’t I celebrate Christmas? Because of all of the above. Because it is not what our Lord wants, and in many cases it actually opposes what he wants from us in the way of showing him honor and in the way of celebrating his life. Christmas is a pagan celebration, but not because of its pagan roots, but because of how it is celebrated today.

So, please take this to the Lord in prayer. Ask him to show you his heart and how he wants to be celebrated, and then obey him. Don’t do Christmas because you have always done Christmas or because people won’t like you if you don’t. We celebrated Christmas the last time in 2011. And when we didn’t celebrate it in 2012, it cost us the approval of many people.

So, don’t look at that. Don’t look at what you have always done. Take time to get alone with the Lord in his word and look at the ways the Lord Jesus said he wants us to honor him, for that is what this is all about, right? Well, it hasn’t been, but that can change if we are willing to make those changes.

Often when I ask why,
Teach me then on You to rely O Lord,
You surely know what is best
May I learn that in confidence and strength I can rest
Then, leaning fully on You, my questions fall one by one.
Oh, dear Lord, please don't ever stop working with me
'til You see I can be all You want me to be

I am willing Lord, I am willing Lord,
To be just exactly what You want me to be

By Joni Eareckson Tada

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[B-A-C]

It really has nothing to do with the pagan roots of the holiday

Is Christmas Really Rooted in Pagan Origin?

While the intentions of many of the “Christmas is pagan” crowd may be good, their research is flawed. These claims have little to do with historical facts. It is the observance of the birth of our Lord that truly matters this holiday season.

www.christianity.com

Christmas Trees​

• Eternal Life: The evergreen nature of Christmas trees symbolizes eternal life, reflecting the everlasting life offered through Christ
• Light of the World: The lights and ornaments on the tree represent Jesus as the "Light of the World," bringing hope and illumination to darkness
• Holy Trinity: The triangular shape of the tree can symbolize the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)

Christmas Wreaths​

• Eternal Life and God's Love: The circular shape of the wreath, with no beginning or end, symbolizes eternal life and God's unending lov
• Victory Over Sin: The evergreen branches used in wreaths represent Christ's triumph over sin and death

These symbols help Christians reflect on the deeper spiritual meanings of the holiday season.

 

[backNforth]

Nuthin' but icons, vanity and vexation of spirit.

Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one. (Job 14:4)

The Focus on Santa Claus

For example:

Santa has been given the attributes of God, and is presented as a god-like figure:

• Eternal: Santa is as old as man, he has always been, and he will always be. Santa is eternal. Jesus is eternal (Revelation 1:8).
• Flying and gifts: Santa goes into the air and gives gifts. Jesus ascends on high and gives gifts (Ephesians 4:7-8).
• Coming soon: Santa shall descend from the sky. Jesus "shall descend" from the sky (1 Thessalonians 4:16).
• Rewarding works: Santa gives his gifts according to whether you are good or bad. Jesus gives his gifts according to whether you are good or bad (Revelation 20:12-13).
• All Seeing: Santa sees you when you are sleeping, and knows when you're awake. Jesus sees you when you are sleeping, and knows when you're awake (Proverbs 5:21).
• Clothing: Santa wears red clothes. Jesus wore red clothes (Revelation 19:13).
• Hair: Santa has hair white as snow. Jesus had hair "white as snow" (Revelation 1:14, Daniel 7:9).
• Entering: Santa can come in though the doors are shut. Jesus can come in though the doors are shut (John 20:19).
• Home: Santa’s city is in the North Pole. God’s city is in "the sides of the North" (Psalm 48:1-2, Leviticus 1:11).
• Omniscient (all knowing): Santa knows if you've been bad or good. Jesus knows if you've been bad or good (Proverbs 15:3).
• Omnipresence (everywhere at one time): Santa can be in one billion homes in a 24 hour period; that is eleven hundred & fifty-seven homes per second, virtually omnipresent. Jesus is omnipresent (Matthew 18:20).
• Omnipotent (all powerful): Santa is powerful enough to carry presents for a billion children. That is Omnipotence. Jesus is Omnipotent (Matthew 28:18).
• Ho! Ho! Ho!: Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho". Jesus says "Ho, ho" (Zechariah 2:6), and in this same verse, Jesus says, "flee from the land of the north." Also, the word "ho" appears in only three verses in the entire scripture (Ruth 4:1, Isaiah 55:1, Zechariah 2:6). Ho! Ho! Ho! Three Ho’s! Santa is trying to impersonate Christ (Matthew 24:5)!

Children have been told from an early age that there is someone who "knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake." One day that child's "god" (for indeed only the Lord God knows these things) is discovered to be non-existent. When a child is 6, 7 or 8 he finds out he has been lied to by his parents and society. Their faith crumbles and a sacred trust is broken. Their parents represent the authority and security to which their very lives depend, and they find out now that there is not a jolly, fat Santa Clause with attributes as God.

The Devil has just now destroyed a belief in one who "knows when you are sleeping, awake, bad or good, etc.!" Now you take that same child to Church services, or teach this child about God, expecting them to believe in another who knows all about them. What would any of us expect of a child whose faith and trust were already attacked with such deception?

If you have any involvement in such a deception, repent of it. Jesus said, "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones (children) which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." (Mat.18:6). The worship of Santa Claus is a sin of idolatry likened to that of witchcraft (1 Sam.15:23, Gal.5:19-21).

Who is the god of this world? The Lord God of the scripture has revealed Himself as God, but there is another whom the Lord ascribes the title of "the god of this world" (2 Corinthians 4:4), "the prince of this world" (John 12:31). The devil has "come down" unto us (Revelation 12:12), and walks on the earth (Job 2:2). Indeed, the Devil has done such a good job in his work of deception that the vast majority of men, women and children do not even believe that the Devil exists. They have cartooned him as a mythical horned and forked-tailed boogie man, and in that lies his opportunity to have people succumb to the powers that are his.

It is this principle that lies at the belief system of Santa. SANTA with a juggle of letters spells SATAN!

Santa Claus is a god to the children of the world, or as some say, "Father Christmas". But Jesus specifically said, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven" (Matthew 23:9). The parents purposely lie to their children, and lying is strongly condemned in the scripture (Pro.6:16-19; 19:5,9; Eph.4:25, Col.3:9, 1 John 2:21-22, Rev.21:8,27; 22:15). Parents tell them that they should fear Santa Claus because "he knows if you've been bad or good". If they have been bad, they won't get all these worldly gifts. If they are good, they get these gifts. The scripture condemns worldly gifts (Exo.23:8, Deut.16:19, 2 Kings 5:15-16, Pro.17:23, Ecc.7:7, Mat.23:19, Pro.21:14). True gifts are from God only (James 1:17, Eph.2:8; 3:7; 4:7, 1 Cor.7:7, 2 Cor.9:15, Rom.1:11; 6:23, Acts 2:38, 2 Tim.1:6). And the gift of God cannot be purchased with money (Acts 8:20-21).

Santa Claus comes from the Dutch dialect "Sante Klaas," because this referred to "Saint Nicholas." Nicholas was a man in Germany who gave children presents, and had them sit on his lap. Unfortunately, the reason he did this was not for good, but for evil. He was a convicted child molester.

 

[Rockerduck]

Forget the fairytale santa, celebrate the birth of our savior Jesus Christ. The Gospel of Matthew and Luke make a big deal out of the birth of Jesus otherwise it would not be in the Gospels.

Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10; Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people.
For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12; And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.”And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying:
“Glory to God in the highest,
And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!”

 

[Gerbolski]

Ecc 1:9
(9) The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.


Eze 44:23
(23) And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.

We would do good to meditate on these verses, and seek God in everything, in what he thinks about things, and not how we think about things.

And be concerned of having no mixture in everything.

 

[Gerbolski]

God does not want mixture, or justification for something that cannot be justified, or to Christianize something that is not Christian.

Gal 5:19-20
(19) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
(20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

There are many issues, in this topic, Christmas vs the real birth of Jesus, the truth about Jesus vs mixed in lies about Jesus.

And the purity of truth.

Mixing things in = idolatry.

And then we need to seek God on how he wants to be served or worship, which the answer is in the bible.

 

[Gerbolski]

Does God call us to Christianize pagan roots, or to cut them totally off pagan ?

And I do know about the different arguments.

But we are called to be separate people, a peculiar people, a holy people who care about what we say about God, what we associate with God, and not taking his name in vain.

There is a lot to consider, and not many give truly careful thoughts about this, most people, it is about, if it makes you feel good, then it's ok, or some do not mind adding a lie here and there, saying, oh there is no harm.

But that is not how God thinks.

 

[Gerbolski]

Santa Claus
The Santa Claus part should be the easiest part to discern, which they have made him God like, with many of his attributes.

And this next verse alone, should tell you to have not part in this Santa Claus tradition:

1Ti 4:7
(7) But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

Refuse old wives fables, or tales.

The fable of Santa Claus coming in your chimney, and bringing gifts to kids should be totally refused, why ?

Because it is a fable, and it is just simply a "lie", "lie", "lie", as Christians we are not called to be liars.

 

[B-A-C]

Most expets dont believe this was ever a Pagan holiday, writing from as early as the 2nd and 3rd century seem to indicate this started off as a Christian event.

 

[Gerbolski]

Most expets dont believe this was ever a Pagan holiday, writing from as early as the 2nd and 3rd century seem to indicate this started off as a Christian event.

It depends on the source one is looking at, but I do not always go by what most experts say, because sometimes the majority are wrong and sometimes they are right.

Sometimes on some things, a narrative gets formed, and becomes the prominent view, because that is what shows up in the internet results.

And for now, I will not go into that, but to some degree, will do so later.

 

[Gerbolski]

I think that on the Santa Claus issue, we call all agree that, it is not of God, not just for the reasons of the attributes that they add to him (which is part of it), but the story they made out him, is a blatant lie and a fable, and it should have no part in the church.

 

[Gerbolski]

Christmas tree

I know that some say that Martin Luther is were Christmas trees originated, but actually this is not true.

Now here is a source that some might use:

(The History of Christmas Trees on whychristmas?com)

(…The first person to bring a Christmas Tree into a house, in the way we know it today, may have been the 16th century German preacher Martin Luther. A story is told that, one night before Christmas, he was walking through the forest and looked up to see the stars shining through the tree branches. It was so beautiful, that he went home and told his children that it reminded him of Jesus, who left the stars of heaven to come to earth at Christmas.…)

By this time, people were already relating what is known as Christmas, with December 25th, and in the statements up above, it was an emphatic statement of Christ coming to earth on Christmas day, or December 25th, which is a lie.

But regardless to this, I have read of many saying (even people for Christmas) that they do not know even if this story is true, I even heard a claim that some say that this story was invented so that protestants can lay claim to Christmas.

And in our next quote, it will show info before the time of Luther regarding trees, in the 8th century A.D.

(The History of Christmas Trees on whychristmas?com)

(...…Another story says that St. Boniface of Crediton (a village in Devon, UK) left England and traveled to Germany to preach to the pagan German tribes and convert them to Christianity. He is said to have come across a group of pagans about to sacrifice a young boy while worshipping an oak tree. In anger, and to stop the sacrifice, St. Boniface is said to have cut down the oak tree and, to his amazement, a young fir tree sprang up from the roots of the oak tree. St. Boniface took this as a sign of the Christian faith and his followers decorated the tree with candles so that St. Boniface could preach to the pagans at night.…...)


(Encyclopedia Britannica, 1960, page 643)

(…It is generally believed that the first Christmas tree was of German origin dating to Boniface, English missionary to Germany in the 8th century, who replaced the sacrifices to Odin’s sacred oak by a fir tree adorned in tribute to the Christ child.…)

Some say that this is were the modern day Christmas tree originated from, it came from this tradition, and it was done in Germany, which is were most say the Christmas tree came from.

Now before we get to comments via Boniface, let us see who he actually was.

(Saint Boniface - Wikipedia)

(…Boniface (Latin: Bonifatius; c. 675[2] – 5 June 754 AD), born Winfrid (also spelled Winifred, Wynfrith, Winfrith or Wynfryth) in the Devon town of Crediton in Anglo-Saxon England, was a leading figure in the Anglo-Saxon mission to the Germanic parts of the Frankish Empire during the 8th century. He organised significant foundations of the church in Germany and was made archbishop of Mainz by Pope Gregory III. He was martyred in Frisia in 754, along with 52 others…)

So Boniface was an archbishop, he was a Roman Catholic, and when statements says he was converting pagan German tribes to Christianity, this is not true, rather he was converting pagans to Roman Catholicism, and he was working directly in sink with the pope.

Pagans were going from one version of paganism, to another version of paganism, which is Roman Catholicism.

They seem to be the true originators of the Christmas tree.

Although it was only later that the name Christmas tree came to be, but it seems that the tradition started there.

And what did Boniface actually do ?

He replaced the sacrifices to Odin’s sacred oak by a fir tree adorned in tribute to the Christ child.
Even though he may have said it was a tribute to the Christ child, what he was doing, is a replacement version, of Odin's sacred oak.

God does not want any replacement versions of anything via pagan, he does not want a Christianized version.

And then there is the history of paradise trees, here is some info:

(Adam, Eve & the Paradise Tree)

(…Christmas Eve is the feast day of our first parents, Adam and Eve, who are commemorated as Saints in the calendars of the Catholic churches of Eastern rites. Their veneration spread also to the West and became very popular toward the end of the first millennium. Although the Latin rite of the Catholic Church never officially introduced their feast, it did not oppose their popular veneration. In many old churches of Europe their statues may still be seen among the images of the Saints.

Around the 12th century the custom began of celebrating this feast on December 24 with the Paradise Play,...
...One of the few props in the play was a large evergreen tree called a Paradise Tree, its branches laden with red apples....
...There, it became the custom to put up a “paradise tree” in the home to honor the first parents. This was a fir tree laden with apples, the symbol of Adam’s fall. They also decorated the tree with white wafers, representing the Eucharist, the symbol of man’s redemption and salvation. It was customary as early as the 16th century in Germany to ring the tree with candles because the Paradise Play was enacted in such a ring. (1)

In fact, we find first mention of the Christmas tree as early as 1419 at the Freiburg Fraternity Baker’s Apprentices of the German Alsace.…)

Even in this, you see a Catholic connection, which in the feast which they would prop up a paradise tree, they would venerate Adam and Eve, basically worship them, and via the tree, they would decorate it with white wafers, which pointed to the Catholic Eucharist, which pointed to transubstantiation, which is an abominable doctrine.

And here are verses to give heed to:

Jer 10:1-4 (1) Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: (2) Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. (3) For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. (4) They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Deu 12:30-31 (30) Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. (31) Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

Now the history behind the Jeremiah verses, seems to refer to this:

("The Pagan Origins of Easter", n. d., p. 2)[8]…)

(… The queen (Semiramis) told the worshippers that when Tammuz (a.k.a.
Nimrod) was killed… some of his blood fell on the stump of an
evergreen tree, and the stump grew into a full new tree overnight. This
made the evergreen tree sacred by the blood of Tammuz.)


Now this may be the origins of the Jeremiah tree, although Semiramis may have said this story for some type of veneration, and the worship of Tammuz, and add some mysticalness to her religion.

So the word of God says learn not the way of the heathens who cut a tree, and decorate it, with silver and gold, no doubt of course in honor of their gods, so that is the Jeremiah verses.

And in Deuteronomy, God says do not even enquire after their gods, in knowing how they served their gods, and God says I do not want to be served that way, he does not want that type of worship.

What did they do to their gods ? They sacrificed children to their gods, they set up images to their Gods, they even set up trees and decorated it, in honor of their gods, well God does not want us to do the same to him.

He does not want images in honor of him, he does not want us to set up trees and decorate it, in honor of him, he wants none of it.

He just simply wants our hearts and our worship, and our faith, that is it.

 

[Gerbolski]

Some possible arguments some may use

Now I am aware of some of the arguments some may use via the Christmas tree issue.

Some might say, well God used all kinds of things via the old testament as emblems, and even the new testament via the bread and wine.

He had the ark of the covenant made, with cherubims on top, and so on and so forth.

Well first of all, God was the arbitrator of those things, and not man, the animal sacrifices were animals who were killed as a type of sin offering, which pointed to Christ.

God never had people make statues of himself, and God was careful in what he chose via emblems and so on.

We are not the arbitrators of what God does, what we do is obey what he tells us to do.

And via sacrifices, the pagans never started that, God did, the first sacrifice was when he killed those animals, so to make coats of skin to clothe Adam and Eve, so to cover their nakedness, which did represent a type of sacrifice for their sins.

Of course the pagan animal sacrifices were done unto other gods. and the pagans sure did start child sacrifices, set up decorated trees unto their gods, and made statues unto their gods.

And God is not competing with the pagans, and never has, God never makes a decision based upon what the pagans are doing, nor does he adopt their ways, nor does he make a God version of their ways, he just does not do that.

If we look at the golden calf example, God wanted that destroyed, he never asked them to make a God version of it, or a substitute version of it, for God does not compete with the pagans, he has his ways and no other way.

Jer 10:1-4 (1) Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: (2) Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. (3) For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. (4) They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Deu 12:30-31 (30) Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. (31) Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

God says do not learn the ways of the heathen, but also he says do not apply their ways unto himself, do not serve God, by the means they served their gods, do not do what they do towards their gods, via the God of the bible, he will not accept those ways, and we are not to arbitrate what he says here or change it for our own convenience, we are just called to listen to him, plain and simple.

 

[o000o]

Why I Don't CARE if you DON'T Celebrate Christmas​

OR YOUR OPINION CONCERNING IT.​

This world we live in is full of voices and opinions.
Full of voices and opinions of foolishness and confusion.

And the root of all of it is a world full of nobodies trying to be somebody.

 

[Gerbolski]

Well God is good, and his ways are not our ways, and I am good with that.

 

[Gerbolski]

Birth of Jesus

Mat 1:18
(18) Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Now this was a very great event, the birth of Jesus.

And there was nothing wrong, of course with the birth of Jesus.

But concerning the festival of Christmas, there is a lot of mixture.

There are many things wrong with Christmas, in more ways then people may think.

Now the birth of Jesus is right, but what gets added on to Christ, there is a lot wrong.

 

[MedicBravo]

I do and OP and anyone has their opinion.
The problem in this is that most kids are TOLD what Christmas is and few are taught to think for themselves.
1. St. Nicolas was a real person and White European: St. Nicholas of Myra who was the inspiration for Santa.
"Nicholas lived during a time of Roman persecution under Emperor Diocletian, when Christians were often imprisoned or executed for their faith. Stories say Nicholas himself was briefly jailed for his beliefs, but after Christianity was legalized under Emperor Constantine, he became known for his deep compassion, humility, and acts of secret charity."
Oh my goodness such EVIL.

2. Smart people know Jesus wasn't born on Christmas or the winter season. We were "told" He was and the wise men were SO near they arrive shortly after or a few days after He was born.
3. It's an agreed upon (a long time ago) date and "season of good joy". A common date so that every
Note that in the Winder season there tends to be harsher, colder weather and in many places their life gets a lot harder for a time. Hope for Christians in places that are far worse than others.
4. Decoraton a tree is no more "worship" and evil than decorating your house or anything else. I've yet to hear, read, or see evidence of anyone bowing and doing pagan rituals to a Christmas tree.
5. If Jesus is NOT included in any of that then it's NOT celebrating Jesus.

*Add Jesus, heavily, into this year and permanently to your Christmas celebration. See how people react.

 

[Gerbolski]

I do and OP and anyone has their opinion.
The problem in this is that most kids are TOLD what Christmas is and few are taught to think for themselves.
1. St. Nicolas was a real person and White European: St. Nicholas of Myra who was the inspiration for Santa.
"Nicholas lived during a time of Roman persecution under Emperor Diocletian, when Christians were often imprisoned or executed for their faith. Stories say Nicholas himself was briefly jailed for his beliefs, but after Christianity was legalized under Emperor Constantine, he became known for his deep compassion, humility, and acts of secret charity."
Oh my goodness such EVIL.

2. Smart people know Jesus wasn't born on Christmas or the winter season. We were "told" He was and the wise men were SO near they arrive shortly after or a few days after He was born.
3. It's an agreed upon (a long time ago) date and "season of good joy". A common date so that every
Note that in the Winder season there tends to be harsher, colder weather and in many places their life gets a lot harder for a time. Hope for Christians in places that are far worse than others.
4. Decoraton a tree is no more "worship" and evil than decorating your house or anything else. I've yet to hear, read, or see evidence of anyone bowing and doing pagan rituals to a Christmas tree.
5. If Jesus is NOT included in any of that then it's NOT celebrating Jesus.

*Add Jesus, heavily, into this year and permanently to your Christmas celebration. See how people react.

Yes, there was a real person called Nicholas, but the stories fabricated around him are wrong, and are fables, so we should not give heed to fables.

 

[Gerbolski]

And we should give heed to how God wants to be served, or worshipped.

 

[Gerbolski]

I think a good quote, comes from the OP, which is:

Sue J Love:​

...The Celebration of Jesus Christ

How did Jesus say he wants to be celebrated? After all, if it is truly his birthday, which it isn’t, don’t people generally ask the birthday boy and girl how they want to celebrate their birthdays? Shouldn’t that be a consideration here? Shouldn’t we inquire of the Lord as to how he wants us to honor him?...

I know that many say that the reason for the season is Jesus, but that is not truly true.

What people get most excited about this time of year, is not Jesus, it is partly about the presents, whether it is Christian or unbeliever alike.

One verse that most do not give heed to, in a big way, and in some cases almost not at all, is this one:

Deu 12:30-31
(30) Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
(31) Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

Usually it is about our opinion, or what pleases us, rather than pleasing God.

People will greatly defend what pleases them.