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WHY GOD CREATED HUMANS UNCLOTHED?

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Truth_seeker2022 said:
God created humans unclothed in God's most holy presence which is mortally sinful. Why?
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I’m not quite understanding what you are asking….could you possibly reword this? Or perhaps give a little context behind it? Like where you are coming from?
 
Please read what is written in Genesis.
Adam lied to LORD God because of guilt, because he had done the wrong thing, taking of the tree which he was told not to take from. He then blamed the woman.
Nakedness had nothing to do with it.

All LORD God has made is naked in His sight.
Man needed clothing because the thinking had become stinking.

Perhaps they were no longer as little children who really don't fuss to much about such things... until they get that bit older and the thought processing changes.

Keep it simple and honest.

And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
And He said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Genesis 3:8-12
 
Luminary said:
I’m not quite understanding what you are asking….could you possibly reword this? Or perhaps give a little context behind it? Like where you are coming from?
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With reference to the moral law, being unclothed in God's most holy presence is mortally sinful. So why God created them in that state?
 
Br. Bear said:
Please read what is written in Genesis.
Adam lied to LORD God because of guilt, because he had done the wrong thing, taking of the tree which he was told not to take from. He then blamed the woman.
Nakedness had nothing to do with it.

All LORD God has made is naked in His sight.
Man needed clothing because the thinking had become stinking.

Perhaps they were no longer as little children who really don't fuss to much about such things... until they get that bit older and the thought processing changes.

Keep it simple and honest.

And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
And He said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Genesis 3:8-12
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Who told thee that thou wast naked? Who told them?
 
Truth_seeker2022 said:
With reference to the moral law, being unclothed in God's most holy presence is mortally sinful. So why God created them in that state?
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He didn’t create them in that state. They fell into that state. Neither was the clothing for God, to protect him, but for Adam and Eves shame from themselves. Which was the precursor to the animals that were used in temple sacrifice that “covered” the sin of the people.

For we stand naked before him even now. He sees all. It is us that it is hidden from until it is convicted within us by the spirit, that shows us when we submit to being shown.
(Ex: accepting we are sinners)
 
Luminary said:
He didn’t create them in that state. They fell into that state. Neither was the clothing for God, to protect him, but for Adam and Eves shame from themselves. Which was the precursor to the animals that were used in temple sacrifice that “covered” the sin of the people.

For we stand naked before him even now. He sees all. It is us that it is hidden from until it is convicted within us by the spirit, that shows us when we submit to being shown.
(Ex: accepting we are sinners)
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Have you ever considered the story in a less literal way? What I mean is- without taking anything away from the 'truth' of the story perhaps there is a true meaning that hasn't been fully understood. That's often the case with allegory and parables, legends, myths, tales, stories and everything of the sort. There is the apparent meaning that may in fact be completely true in one sense and there is often a deeper meaning that is also true, in another sense. This was certainly the way Jesus communicated-- the way he taught. And as he did, he revealed those hidden truths as you say, through the spirit- only to those with eyes to see and ears to hear. That is, only to those who were open-minded enough to look and listen.
 
The point of concern seems to be the Genitalia and if we look at the large majority of the Mammals their Sexual their Genitalia not ashamed it hangs out, uncovered, and they are not ashamed to be in our presence nor in the presence of our mutual Creator Elohim. Is there, maybe, an issue exclusive to Mankind? I do not even imagine YHWH having an issue with art of His Creation being covered or uncovered in His Presence. If there would be an issue, it seems to me that it might be, "Why did we ever need the covering, provided, later, by YHWH, in the first place.

¿Answer? Did Lucifer/Satan pull a dirty trick on humankind?
 
Truth_seeker2022 said:
You mean to say being unclothed in God's most holy presence is good?
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We were not clothed until after the fall of man. Though not specifically stated in scripture either for your assumption or mine, I can assume that because sin entered into the world that lust of the flesh did also at the same time, and that we were to avoid lustful feelings while in the presence of God, whether physically or spiritually.
 
AnneOminous said:
Have you ever considered the story in a less literal way? What I mean is- without taking anything away from the 'truth' of the story perhaps there is a true meaning that hasn't been fully understood. That's often the case with allegory and parables, legends, myths, tales, stories and everything of the sort. There is the apparent meaning that may in fact be completely true in one sense and there is often a deeper meaning that is also true, in another sense. This was certainly the way Jesus communicated-- the way he taught. And as he did, he revealed those hidden truths as you say, through the spirit- only to those with eyes to see and ears to hear. That is, only to those who were open-minded enough to look and listen.
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Absolutely!
“The Torah may be viewed, generally speaking, on five different levels.”
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The Story of Genesis, is the fall of the human consciousness into darkness. Which is simply an absent of light. This is seen in the first few verses before light was spoken!

And beings light comes in many forms and frequencies (electromagnetic spectrum), it comes in different density. So, we literally became denser. “Covered” by flesh(of an “animal”)

Each animal that was sacrificed within the temple, represented an aspect >in< the human, that was to be slaughtered. And like the difference between the understanding of a Child is vastly different from that of an adult, the level of consciousness of this people, was about that of an infant. Took it literally! Instead of recognizing the spiritual aspect of what was being relayed…..which they would have known, had they known the God they Claim. (Spirit)

For, As above! So below!
On earth! As it is in heaven!

The Earth, and all contained within it, a physical symbolic representation, reflected, and a manifestation of things of the Spiritual(heaven)

It’s all Light! ….Refracted, Reflected, Projected;) In all it’s pretty colors…lol
 
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Luminary said:
Absolutely!
“The Torah may be viewed, generally speaking, on five different levels.”
(Link deleted by Moderator)

The Story of Genesis, is the fall of the human consciousness into darkness. Which is simply an absent of light. This is seen in the first few verses before light was spoken!

And beings light comes in many forms and frequencies (electromagnetic spectrum), it comes in different density. So, we literally became denser. “Covered” by flesh(of an “animal”)

Each animal that was sacrificed within the temple, represented an aspect >in< the human, that was to be slaughtered. And like the difference between the understanding of a Child is vastly different from that of an adult, the level of consciousness of this people, was about that of an infant. Took it literally! Instead of recognizing the spiritual aspect of what was being relayed…..which they would have known, had they known the God they Claim. (Spirit)

For, As above! So below!
On earth! As it is in heaven!

The Earth, and all contained within it, a physical symbolic representation, reflected, and a manifestation of things of the Spiritual(heaven)

It’s all Light! ….Refracted, Reflected, Projected;) In all it’s pretty colors…lol
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Beautiful.

Truth comes as it will. Your house simply has to be willing to open to it and welcome it in.

 
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AnneOminous said:
Beautiful.

Truth comes as it will. Your house simply has to be willing to open to it and welcome it in.

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Indeed:) You said that perfectly!!!

Philippians 4
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.9 Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me--put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you. :)

Really like that song also! Thank you for sharing that. Catchy!
 
Luminary said:
Indeed:) You said that perfectly!!!

Philippians 4
And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.9 Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me--put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you. :)

Really like that song also! Thank you for sharing that. Catchy!
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Just for you.
 
Truth_seeker2022 said:
God created humans unclothed in God's most holy presence which is mortally sinful. Why?
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Where does the bible say God created Adam naked? Adam only noticed he was naked after he sinned? What changed? Until Adam sinned, he was clothed in the Glory of God! Like Moshe was when he came down off the mountain.
 
Admon Mikha'el said:
Where does the bible say God created Adam naked? Adam only noticed he was naked after he sinned? What changed? Until Adam sinned, he was clothed in the Glory of God! Like Moshe was when he came down off the mountain.
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If God hadn't created them unclothed, why would they seek to be clothed with fig leaves?

Has God's glory been restored to you through faith in Christ's sacrifice?
 
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