Why does God send people to hell?

[Christ4Ever]

You can try googling "Who is the disciple that Jesus loved".

You can try reading your Bible.

Therefore the sisters sent to Him, saying, "Lord, behold, he whom You love is sick."- John 11:3 NKJV

Sometimes y'all are just blind as a bat.

[Jhn 21:23-24 YLT] 23 yet Jesus did not say to him, that he doth not die, but, 'If him I will to remain till I come, what -- to thee?' 24 this is the disciple who is testifying concerning these things, and he wrote these things, and we have known that his testimony is true. John 21:23-24 YLT

So, are you saying that Lazarus is the one who wrote the book of John?

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Seems pretty much the same to me.

Birds of a feather.

You have no one to blame but yourself, since I use the Interlinear by your suggestion, you must be part of the Murder as well.

The Greek-English Interlinear New Testament (Zondervan)

You mean Mounce's version? I had high hopes for his work, but he's more a toady than a bird.

Bill is the founder and President of BiblicalTraining.org, serves on the Committee for Bible Translation (which is responsible for the NIV translation of the Bible), ... (LINK).
And since Zondervan owns the NIV copyright, Mounce is just the toady in their back pocket. There is no way that Mounce would author an interlinear that would get him fired. Zondervan itself is owned by News Corp, meaning Rupert Murdoch. So no possible bias there, right?

The first Interlinear that Zondervan published was based on the work by Dr. Alfred Marshall, but Zondervan published an interlinear to sell NIV Bibles. When somebody finally realized that Marshal's Interlinear directly contradicted portions of the NIV, Marshal was dropped like a hotcake.

Actual the 1958 version of the Greek-English was done as you know by Dr. Alfred Marshall, and is the one being credited to through Samuel Bagster and Sons LTD 1958. Which is what I am using.

No mention of Mounce here and the NIV. So, since it includes the KJV as well as the NIV as being Zondervan and Bagster and Sons LTD for the Greek, are you stating that Mounce should be credited the Greek Translation and not Dr. Marshall through the Bagster and Sons LTD as is the case with the book I have? Or is it just speculation on your part that this is what happened?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Added note: I did a little more research and checked the 1894 Greek-English and it read the same as the 1958 version.

Greek-English (1894) New Testament Interlinear : Samuel Bagster and Sons : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

archive.org

 

[Rhema]

So, are you saying that Lazarus is the one who wrote the book of John?

It's the only thing that makes sense. Yes. (I have posted this before.)

And it seems very obvious. Although I will allow that "Lazarus" might be some code name for the Apostle John, but that's a stretch.

As I've said before, one just cannot understand John unless one has read Philo.

And there are a few other disturbing facts. John has Foot Washing, but not Communion. The Synoptics have Communion, but not Foot Washing. The historical time line is not the same. The "Woman caught in adultery" story is located in various positions based upon the manuscript family, and is just not present in the oldest manuscripts. Only the Gospel labeled John has the claim of Jesus being the Lamb of God, which seems to lend support to the Passover Lamb doctrine, although this occurs only twice in the first chapter, and the words are put in the mouth of John the Baptist - Jesus never says this. It's such a dramatic doctrine that I am puzzled why neither Matthew, Mark, or Luke bears record of this (I would have thought at least Luke). Finally, at first glance, the Gospel named John changed the day that Jesus was crucified. In Mt. Mk. and Lk, Jesus celebrates and eats the Passover. In "John," though Jesus is crucified when the Passover lambs were killed, so Jesus was dead by the time Passover was eaten. (BUT... one can put the text through some hoops to rectify that concern.)

Sorry for the fact dump...

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Well I'm a piece of work in progress.

But y'all really do frustrate the heck out me.

Rhema

 

[Christ4Ever]

Sorry for the fact dump...

No problemo. Interesting to see how others see things.

Well I'm a piece of work in progress.

Aren't we all!

But y'all really do frustrate the heck out me.

Good training in patience.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Rhema]

You have no one to blame but yourself, since I use the Interlinear by your suggestion,

The one I suggested (for which I always give a link) is out of print.

The Interlinear KJV-NIV Parallel New Testament in Greek…

The Interlinear KJV-NIV Parallel New Testament does thr…

www.goodreads.com

But when one does a search on:

The Greek-English Interlinear New Testament (Zondervan)

One gets this - the Mounce version:

The Zondervan Greek and English Interlinear New Testament (NASB/NIV)

The Zondervan Greek and English Interlinear New Testament (NASB/NIV) includes an Interlinear translation based on the Greek New Testament. This new, user-friendly reference tool for pastors, students, and scholars greatly enhances understanding of the Greek New Testament, as well as how to do...

faithgateway.com

So I still don't know which one you use. (That's why I asked.)

Actual the 1958 version of the Greek-English was done as you know by Dr. Alfred Marshall, and is the one being credited to through Samuel Bagster and Sons LTD 1958. Which is what I am using.

And now I know. Thank you. But that's not a Zondervan publication. And I shall readily admit that I hadn't known about the Bagster publication before (not that I seek out British Publishers). I'll have to get one for my collection. Again, thank you.

There are other early Zondervan editions circa 1975 that don't have two English versions, just one, like this: (A black edging is KJV; some green edging prints are RSV.)

The Interlinear Greek-English New Testament by Alfred Marshall | eBay

The Interlinear Greek-English New Testament by Alfred Marshall

www.ebay.com

And I've always been upfront that there are a few key elements where I disagree with the Gloss that Marshall uses.

Added note: I did a little more research and checked the 1894 Greek-English and it read the same as the 1958 version.

Sorry if I was confusing. The Interlinear part from Marshal would be the same. But Zondervan stopped printing the Marshall, for its publication, and switched to George Ricker Berry by 1981, and now Mounce 2008.

you must be part of the Murder as well.

LOL - I see what you did there. I actually smiled for once. (You have my permission to crow about it.)

And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.​

- Luke 9:58 KJV

But considering the three credible death threats I've received, I'm more likely the one to be murdered.

Kind regards,
Rhema

 

[th1bill]

Lazarus died again sometime after this.



Those in Matt 27:52 died again at some point.



Obviously Jesus was resurrected.

I hate to sound trite but since when do you know more than the God that inspired the scriptures? Nowhere can I find one line to verify your post and you state these things without scripture to back them/