Why, Discussions can be hard What is The Difference Between Biblical and Theological, Etymology must be involved

[PloughBoy]

a better definition I found among a great host of Definitions online.

“Theology is the study of God while biblical studies is the study of the Bible itself. When you use the lens of biblical studies, you will study the Bible book by book. Theology takes a more topical approach. It divides the Bible into common themes or categories to better understand the overall message.Apr 1, 2022”

Remember, 20th through 21st. Century have a very large new hosts of “Religious words and religious Terminologies” and redefine definitions, mostly Adapted and attached to “Denominations” as a “Religious Standard or Rule” by “Force” but Instigated by “Covert Stealthy” operations. Not design by those who carry out its “Missions”.

 

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a better definition I found among a great host of Definitions online.

“Theology is the study of God while biblical studies is the study of the Bible itself. When you use the lens of biblical studies, you will study the Bible book by book. Theology takes a more topical approach. It divides the Bible into common themes or categories to better understand the overall message.Apr 1, 2022”

Remember, 20th through 21st. Century have a very large new hosts of “Religious words and religious Terminologies” and redefine definitions, mostly Adapted and attached to “Denominations” as a “Religious Standard or Rule” by “Force” but Instigated by “Covert Stealthy” operations. Not design by those who carry out its “Missions”.

Hello @PloughBoy,

Interesting.

The only failsafe way of determining the meaning of words within their context in Scripture, I believe, is to compare Scripture with Scripture, to see how the Holy Spirit uses them. Regardless of dictionary or concordance definitions, the word of God must have the last say, in the usage the Holy Spirit has made of them. This also sets the reader free from man's understanding, and opens him up to what God wishes to convey, untarnished by human reasoning.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

Hello @PloughBoy,

Interesting.

The only failsafe way of determining the meaning of words within their context in Scripture, I believe, is to compare Scripture with Scripture, to see how the Holy Spirit uses them. Regardless of dictionary or concordance definitions, the word of God must have the last say, in the usage the Holy Spirit has made of them. This also sets the reader free from man's understanding, and opens him up to what God wishes to convey, untarnished by human reasoning.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Here is a little something:

Hello @PloughBoy,

Interesting.

The only failsafe way of determining the meaning of words within their context in Scripture, I believe, is to compare Scripture with Scripture, to see how the Holy Spirit uses them. Regardless of dictionary or concordance definitions, the word of God must have the last say, in the usage the Holy Spirit has made of them. This also sets the reader free from man's understanding, and opens him up to what God wishes to convey, untarnished by human reasoning.

Friendly”

“SALVATION” is The GOAL! Of The Text, How ever it may come, When you cross that Line, “GAME Over”!

Thanks, Complete

 

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Hello @PloughBoy,

Interesting.

The only failsafe way of determining the meaning of words within their context in Scripture, I believe, is to compare Scripture with Scripture, to see how the Holy Spirit uses them. Regardless of dictionary or concordance definitions, the word of God must have the last say, in the usage the Holy Spirit has made of them. This also sets the reader free from man's understanding, and opens him up to what God wishes to convey, untarnished by human reasoning.

Friendly”

@PloughBoy said:-,

“SALVATION” is The GOAL! Of The Text, How ever it may come, When you cross that Line, “GAME Over”!

Thanks, Complete

Hi PloughBoy ,

Yes, the word of God is essentially a book of redemption, isn't it? With Christ permeating the whole, like Blackpool rock .

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Why, Discussions can be hard :- What is The Difference Between 'Biblical' and 'Theological' - Etymology must be involved​

@PloughBoy said:-
A better definition I found among a great host of Definitions online.

“Theology is the study of God while biblical studies is the study of the Bible itself. When you use the lens of biblical studies, you will study the Bible book by book. Theology takes a more topical approach. It divides the Bible into common themes or categories to better understand the overall message.Apr 1, 2022”

Remember, 20th through 21st. Century have a very large new hosts of “Religious words and religious Terminologies” and redefine definitions, mostly Adapted and attached to “Denominations” as a “Religious Standard or Rule” by “Force” but Instigated by “Covert Stealthy” operations. Not design by those who carry out its “Missions”.

Hi PloughBoy,

Your Subject Heading:- 'Why Discussions can be hard': is followed by a question, 'What is the difference between 'Biblical' and 'Theological.' with the added thought:- 'Etymology must be involved. Then follows two thought provoking definitions.

Etymology:- the study of the sources and development of words: Yes, I agree that this is important, and we have Hebrew and Greek Lexicons and Concordances, with interlinear Bibles to aid us with that; but as I said in an earlier entry, I believe that the collective use in which the Holy Spirit uses words is the greatest, and most accurate aid we can possibly have. Even concordance and lexicon definitions must bow to the Holy Spirit's usage as having more credence than their own, though well researched, definitions.

'Which things also we speak,
not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,
but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;
comparing spiritual things with spiritual.'
(1Co 2:13)

As you say in your first definition, doctrinal bias has influenced the interpretation of words to the detriment of truth. It is not without good cause that Paul gives us warning in Colossians, concerning philosophy and vain deceit:-

'Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.'
(Col 2:8-9)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Hello once again,@ PloughBoy

I did my first word study on the use in Scripture of the word 'Hell': and began by looking up the original meaning of the word, before Greek Philosophy and other influences, both ancient and modern, had done their worst. Looking up the Greek and Hebrew words translated by this middle English word, I then searched the Scriptures with that original meaning in mind, taking note of all alternate usages and the contexts in which they were found. What I found set me free from the tradition of men, liberated me from past influences, and taught me a lesson which I have never forgotten.

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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'Nevertheless we, according to His promise,
look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things,
be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation;
even as our beloved brother Paul also
according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things;
in which are some things hard to be understood,
which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,
as they do also the other scriptures,
unto their own destruction.
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before,
beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked,
fall from your own steadfastness.
But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.'
(2 Peter 3:13-18)

 

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a better definition I found among a great host of Definitions online.

“Theology is the study of God while biblical studies is the study of the Bible itself. When you use the lens of biblical studies, you will study the Bible book by book. Theology takes a more topical approach. It divides the Bible into common themes or categories to better understand the overall message.Apr 1, 2022”

Remember, 20th through 21st. Century have a very large new hosts of “Religious words and religious Terminologies” and redefine definitions, mostly Adapted and attached to “Denominations” as a “Religious Standard or Rule” by “Force” but Instigated by “Covert Stealthy” operations. Not design by those who carry out its “Missions”.

Subject Headinig:- Why, Discussions can be hard What is The Difference Between Biblical and Theological, Etymology must be involved​

Hello @PloughBoy,

Why do you think discussions can be so hard to engage in on a forum such as this one?

1) I believe difficulty arises because of the various influences each participant has had theologically, Biblically and etymologically.
2) It is also made difficult when a participant fails to keep the subject objective and free from personal bias.
3) Also when personal opinion, or doctrinal preconception, rather than Biblical observation, drives the discussion

“It shall greatly help ye to understand the Scriptures
if thou mark not only what is spoken or written,
but of whom and to whom,
with what words,
at what time,
where,
to what intent,
with what circumstances,
considering what goeth before
and what followeth after. ”
― Miles Coverdale

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

Why do I think discussion in forms like this can be so hard?

Ans: It is in “The Era” we live.

It is not really The Forum, but “The Catalysts”.

“The Information Highway”, named: “The “WWW”(The World Wide Web), “The Net”, := “The INTERNET”, a Supper Highway, with so many faster Than Lightning Lanes!

“Faster that Jets, missiles, that can start wars, fights, propaganda, lies, distortions of Truths, of all kinds, Before a pencil hits The Floor,

“Mockery”, Scorn” travels wild!

That is Now in The “Hands” of Babes, children, Teens, young adults, Adults, Educated, uneducated, Rich, Poor. Vengeful, jealousy, inventors of evil. Plots and trickery that no man could dream.

Now Think, on The Same “Highway” Traveling faster Than Light with no Brakes!

And No “Fear of GOD”

Now for just one Moment, Think “Calvinism” I do not care if you hate The Thoughts of,
“TOTAL DEPRAVITY”

Think The Actually “True Written Doctrine of “Total Depravity” not what you Think it means!

You will see what is Traveling on That “Information Highway”! On All Lanes! On every, get off Ramp, every rest area, and coffee house and DisneyLand!

Now make sure you read and Understand The Actual “Doctrine” of “Total Depravity” and not another “Highwaymen” definition and Assessment what The Doctrine of “Total Depravity” means!

So it is not The “Form” it is “The ERA” we live in,

Back during The “Great Awaking” a Lie, or deception took a long Time To Get There by “Horseback” or by Sailing The 7 Seas!

Or by “Foot”!

And beforeThe Lie or The Deception could grow and reach its Destination, it could Die, before it got there! Or The note could get wet and wash the ink away

 

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Hello @PloughBoy,

Reading your reply, the words that come to my mind are, 'Slow down to the pace of Almighty God'. I have obviously heard it somewhere, but I don't know where it originates.

' Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone,
a tried stone,
a precious corner stone,
a sure foundation:
he that believeth shall not make haste.' - (i.e., that is, will be constant, steady, not fleeing away)
(Isa 28:16)

* As you know this is quoted in Romans 9:33 & 1 Peter 2:6. The context of both is interesting.

* We so need to be constant and steady, not fleeing away, but steadfast, don't we?

' Therefore, my beloved brethren,
be ye steadfast, unmoveable,
always abounding in the work of the Lord,
forasmuch as ye know
that your labour is not in vain
in the Lord.'
(1 Cor 15:58)

* Yes, I am very aware of the times we are living in, I can see the degradation, and smell the fear. Yet looking out of my window, the air is still, the leaves barely move in the breeze, the sky is overcast, the clouds full of moisture. All is still. About me It is man that is running, speeding on to his own destruction. The nations meet to discuss tactics, to stem the flow of destruction, as war continues to destroy, and bring ruin. But the enemy lusts, desires to have and therefore kills to obtain the object of his desire, but is not satisfied. (James 4:1-3).

Is God's hook in his nose (Isaiah 37), is he being pulled towards the land of promise?

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris


PS: Forgive what seems like a jumble of thoughts.

 

[PloughBoy]

Hello @PloughBoy,

Reading your reply, the words that come to my mind are, 'Slow down to the pace of Almighty God'. I have obviously heard it somewhere, but I don't know where it originates.

' Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone,
a tried stone,
a precious corner stone,
a sure foundation:
he that believeth shall not make haste.' - (i.e., that is, will be constant, steady, not fleeing away)
(Isa 28:16)

* As you know this is quoted in Romans 9:33 & 1 Peter 2:6. The context of both is interesting.

* We so need to be constant and steady, not fleeing away, but steadfast, don't we?

' Therefore, my beloved brethren,
be ye steadfast, unmoveable,
always abounding in the work of the Lord,
forasmuch as ye know
that your labour is not in vain
in the Lord.'
(1 Cor 15:58)

* Yes, I am very aware of the times we are living in, I can see the degradation, and smell the fear. Yet looking out of my window, the air is still, the leaves barely move in the breeze, the sky is overcast, the clouds full of moisture. All is still. About me It is man that is running, speeding on to his own destruction. The nations meet to discuss tactics, to stem the flow of destruction, as war continues to destroy, and bring ruin. But the enemy lusts, desires to have and therefore kills to obtain the object of his desire, but is not satisfied. (James 4:1-3).

Is God's hook in his nose (Isaiah 37), is he being pulled towards the land of promise?

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris


PS: Forgive what seems like a jumble of thoughts.

Not jumble, But we are forever trying to understand The Counsels of “GODs” but still Clothe within The Flesh that is Warring against our New Creation created in Christ Jesus, That Creation is waiting for its Redemption from The Flesh in which it is House in.

So we all labor to reach out into That “Unknown”.

But one Day.

 

[PloughBoy]

Hello @PloughBoy,

Reading your reply, the words that come to my mind are, 'Slow down to the pace of Almighty God'. I have obviously heard it somewhere, but I don't know where it originates.

' Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone,
a tried stone,
a precious corner stone,
a sure foundation:
he that believeth shall not make haste.' - (i.e., that is, will be constant, steady, not fleeing away)
(Isa 28:16)

* As you know this is quoted in Romans 9:33 & 1 Peter 2:6. The context of both is interesting.

* We so need to be constant and steady, not fleeing away, but steadfast, don't we?

' Therefore, my beloved brethren,
be ye steadfast, unmoveable,
always abounding in the work of the Lord,
forasmuch as ye know
that your labour is not in vain
in the Lord.'
(1 Cor 15:58)

* Yes, I am very aware of the times we are living in, I can see the degradation, and smell the fear. Yet looking out of my window, the air is still, the leaves barely move in the breeze, the sky is overcast, the clouds full of moisture. All is still. About me It is man that is running, speeding on to his own destruction. The nations meet to discuss tactics, to stem the flow of destruction, as war continues to destroy, and bring ruin. But the enemy lusts, desires to have and therefore kills to obtain the object of his desire, but is not satisfied. (James 4:1-3).

Is God's hook in his nose (Isaiah 37), is he being pulled towards the land of promise?

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris


PS: Forgive what seems like a jumble of thoughts.

Was this the quote you were trying to remember.

“Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small; Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all.”

 

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Was this the quote you were trying to remember.

“Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small; Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all.”

Hello @PloughBoy,

Thank you, but though this seems familiar, I don't know it. Where is it from, do you know?

Looking on line, I now find that it is a line from a poem by Longfellow.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris