Why did God create mankind?

[PloughBoy]

You ain’t cross that “Finish Line” Yet. You hope you do.

8For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed to us-ward. 19For the earnest expectation of the creation waiteth for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but by reason of him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23And not only so, but ourselves also, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for our adoption, to wit , the redemption of our body. 24For in hope were we saved: but hope that is seen is not hope: for who hopeth for that which he seeth? 25But if we hope for that which we see not, then do we with patience WAIT for it.

 

[Daniel L.]

Thats more twisted than a pretzel!!

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Psalm 22:10 is not "twisted". He is His God from His mother's belly. Jesus is the Almighty Revelation 1:8 And, why won't you respond, is Jesus the Saviour?

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

-Who created man? Who is the "us"?

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

 

[PloughBoy]

We shall see Him as He is for WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM.
He was glorified by the Father
His one act of righteousness justified US.
And as we have been justified, we shall also be glorified just as He was. Not because of anything we did but because that is Gods intent "UNTO OUR GLORY"
Jesus was/is the only flesh son of the Father. However, He is not the only son of the Father spiritually speaking, although He was the first spiritually begotten of the Father.
How else should we be called brothers of which He is not ashamed to call us,( and if children then joint heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with Him,
that we may also be glorified together ) unless we be spiritually begotten of the same Father?

Well, the word “Begotten” never existed until about 1400-1500 AD. If I remember right.

The word never existed until then. It does not exists in The Original Text. Not in “Codex Alexandrinus”, “Codex Vaticannuis” “Codex Sinatious” or “The Textus Receptus”.
Sorry the word “begot” “begotten” never came out of the mouth of GOD the Father. Somebody put the word or related words like that into the mouth of The “GOD ALMIGHTY”.

The “Rendering” what he did say: “MY Only SON” not begot or begotten” He said: “My ONLY SON” who always been and I never been without Him.

That ain’t “Begot” “Begotton”, or “Begotten” What it is, is The SON has Always Been and always will be, what ever His name is, or what ever He decides to be. Matter of fact, and you know this, His SON is going to get a new name, that nobody knows!

You know I am having fun.

No wonder the bible says: let your words be few.

My wife use to say:: keep on talking and you are going say to much

 

[Samson2020]

My wife use to say:: keep on talking and you are going say to much

And that would have you sleeping on the couch!!

 

[Dave M]

Seems like a generic answer in that the majority of mankind does just the opposite of that.

Yes the way is hard and few find it, so why would we think the majority would do the will of GOd.

 

[Samson2020]

Yes the way is hard and few find it, so why would we think the majority would do the will of GOd.

They will eventually, we have to remember that in order for one to love God they must understand how God loves them. They do not know this until initial salvation and infilling
of the Holy Ghost. The words of the book are only words to the unsaved that have not received mercy yet as they have not yet been chosen to understand.
"Every man in his own order" 1 Co 15:23

 

[Dave M]

They will eventually,

yes we differ on this one, I just don't see scripture teaching the universal salvation for everyone as you do. Not many people believe in universal salvation

 

[Samson2020]

yes we differ on this one, I just don't see scripture teaching the universal salvation for everyone as you do. Not many people believe in universal salvation

Not many people are ready for the deeper things of God either. God promised eternal life before the world began. Titus 1:2 question would have to be unto WHOM did He make this promise?
We must never forget that no one is saved by their own volition, it is strictly according to the grace of God. When we start to believe that we deserve it, we fall into the self
righteous camp and that causes blindness that must be overcome in order to be allowed to see the hidden manna. Rev 2:17

 

[Daniel L.]

no one is saved by their own volition

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Ezekiel 33:19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

it is strictly according to the grace of God

You who say this do not know what is free-will, and how it is possible to be really good; that he who is good by his own choice is really good; but he who is made good by another under necessity is not really good, because he is not what he is by his own choice.

When we start to believe that we deserve it

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[Samson2020]

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Ezekiel 33:19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.

Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

You who say this do not know what is free-will, and how it is possible to be really good; that he who is good by his own choice is really good; but he who is made good by another under necessity is not really good, because he is not what he is by his own choice.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Ephesians 2:8 It is by grace ye are saved through faith and that not of yourselves: it (faith) is the gift of God.


you cannot HEAR what I type so ........

 

[Daniel L.]

Ephesians 2:8

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

-If you only have one witness, then you concede that we are saved by works. At the mouth of three witness the matter was established. It is more than established at the mouth of Jesus, James, John, King David, Ezekiel, Moses, and Solomon.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

 

[Samson2020]

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

-If you only have one witness, then you concede that we are saved by works. At the mouth of three witness the matter was established. It is more than established at the mouth of Jesus, James, John, King David, Ezekiel, Moses, and Solomon.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

You really should get out of the OT as you apparently do not understand the NEW ONE. Justification was through Jesus for ALL Romans 5:18

I have been where you are and its no good as you are living according to OT rules etc..... That ended with the death of Jesus and a whole new thing began. The law of Love thy neighbor
as thyself is our creed regarding people and of course we love God above all because of the salvation He brought to us through Jesus Christ.
Get back to the NT and discover what changed as you are blinded hanging out in the OT.

 

[Daniel L.]

You really should get out of the OT

The wicked that forsake the Law shall die, because they won't be justified:

Baruch 4:1 This is the book of the commandments of God, and the law that endureth for ever: all they that keep it shall come to life; but such as leave it shall die.

Psalm 119:53 Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.

155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

NEW ONE

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

ended with the death of Jesus

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The law of Love thy neighbor

Yes, that has always been the Law, you don't want to be kille, so thou shalt not kill, and so on. This is the Law and the prophets.

Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

-So, why would you tell me to forsake the Law and the Prophets? Do you want me to perish? What happen to love your neighbour?

-We are saved by works, of the Law and the Prophets. So, don't forsake it.

 

[Samson2020]

-We are saved by works, of the Law and the Prophets. So, don't forsake it.

I think were done here as you do not understand anything.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is NOT JUSTIFIED by the WORKS OF THE LAW, but by the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith
of Christ, and NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 9:31-32 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath NOT ATTAINED to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by FAITH, but as it
were by the works of the law. For they STUMBLED AT THAT STUMBLINGSTONE.

 

[PloughBoy]

I think were done here as you do not understand anything.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is NOT JUSTIFIED by the WORKS OF THE LAW, but by the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith
of Christ, and NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 9:31-32 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath NOT ATTAINED to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by FAITH, but as it
were by the works of the law. For they STUMBLED AT THAT STUMBLINGSTONE.

Stop arguing with him! I’m a witness, faith is a Gift and not earn, for by Grace are you saved and Grace is a Gift too! 1+1 = 2 so every word will be established! That 1x1x1 = 1 in other words 3 can mean 1. When you dealing with The Triune GOD.

Sometimes you can kill two birds with one stone.

 

[Daniel L.]

you do not understand anything

Do you even believe Jesus?

Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

I’m a witness

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Gift

Exodus 23:8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.

Proverbs 15:27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.

Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.

Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

Isaiah 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

 

[PloughBoy]

Do you even believe Jesus?

Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Exodus 23:8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.

Proverbs 15:27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.

Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.

Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

Isaiah 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

The “Canon of Scripture” according to The Protestant Faith of the 66 books of “Holy Scripture” is not a “Cracker Jack Box” nor should it be treated as such.
“English” metaphor here. And it should not be use, like “James Bond” likes his “Martini”.

 

[Rockerduck]

Ephesians 1:11-12- KJV - in whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will: 12 that we should be to the praise of His Glory, who first trusted in Christ.

We were created to be the Praise of His Glory

 

[Daniel L.]

Martini

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

 

[PloughBoy]

Ephesians 1:11-12- KJV - in whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will: 12 that we should be to the praise of His Glory, who first trusted in Christ.

We were created to be the Praise of His Glory

I believe The “Original Copied Manuscript” of The “Holy Scripture” concerning The Canon of Scriptures of The 66 Books makes it plain, this Adam is only a bear seed and incomplete and this product must put on the incorruptible and be presented and Glorified on “The Coronation Day” when He Enters full “Adoption” and have left “Faith” behind and entered to FULL Sonship according The Doctrine of “The WORD” being “Ratified”! And Then. That which recorded in “The Westminster Confessions of Faith, Shorter Catechism”:

“A Man’s Chief End is to Glorify GOD, and to Enjoy Him Forever”

Here is my Quote:

“A man cannot Glorify GOD and Fully Enjoy Him, not until That Man has been “Glorified by GOD” with Glorified Body”

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Yours truly,
Ploughboy,
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