Who Justifieth the Ungodly

[Leumas]

Justified from all things !

Acts 13:39

And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The Nature of the Justification that Christ gives to all for whom He died, all the Elect of God or His Body the Church, its Justification from all things which means:

They are Justified from their Transgression in Adam their Natural Head Rom 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

They are Justified from all actual Transgressions they begin t commit from the womb, before conversion and also after conversion.

They are Justified from all their present impurities in the flesh, Yes they are Justified in the court of God's Justice and Righteousness against anything anyone can bring against them even as a legitimate charge !


Illustrated by Joshua the High Priest who had on filthy garments ! Zech 3:1-4

And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

All for whom Christ died, the Israel of God, He has taken away their Iniquities from before the Justice of God ! 6

A lot of this is not true.

 

[Brightfame52]

A lot of this is not true.

Prove it with scripture

 

[Leumas]

Prove it with scripture

I already have

 

[Garee]

Prove it with scripture

What kind of scripture?

Is a person willing to go down the rabbit hole and seek the unseen understanding of parables which without Christ the husband spoke not?

Parables like a lamp unto our feet take away the false fear of the rabbit hole. . . the unknown understanding

It would seem to be needed to rightly divide in order to show His approval. Him working in us with us (2 Timothy 2:15)

Parables the signified tongue using the temporal things seen, the historical as a gospel sign must be compared to or mixed with the unseen eternal

Rabbit hole parables do not change the historical but do enrich it like honey .

Parables can be scary at first just as designed to cause wonders or marvel.

It would seem today signs to wonder, wonder after have a greater following than biblical parables, because of natural fear, No way to understand. Satan the king of lying signs to wonder, wonder after as if true prophecy is working overtime today

To demonstrate the value . Jesus spoke one parable right after another hiding the gospel unseen understanding again and again. Teaching them how to walks by faith. . understanding the hidden things of the gospel .

On one occasion one parable after another in their confusion they decided Jesus went of his rocker and they decided to elect a new top Alfa Dog with Jesus 2 feet in front of them. Because of parable the Son of man Jesus was most lonely man that ever walked on water

In that way he has not left us an orphan but has freely given the mixing recipe needed to rightly divide the parables

Hebrews 4 informs us no mix no faith as power needed to please our Holy Father no gospel rest the parable remains unknown, just a dark rabbit hole

The valuable formula needed to begin the bible study below

2 Corinthians 4:18;While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal

The well mixed gospel fruit of the recipe
Hebrews 4Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short it;For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

Will you mix?

 

[Brightfame52]

I already have

In your own mind

 

[Brightfame52]

@Garee

What kind of scripture?

How many different kinds are there ?

 

[Leumas]

In your own mind

Actually it was in post number 116.
I defeated your whole theology
With that one verse and one question.

Notice you did not respond to it.

So here respond to it now.

 

[Garee]

@Garee



How many different kinds are there ?

True as parables and false lying signs to wonder after as if true prophecy.

Without the signified tongue of prophecy (parables) Christ spoke not .

 

[Brightfame52]

Actually it was in post number 116.
I defeated your whole theology
With that one verse and one question.

Notice you did not respond to it.

So here respond to it now.

You deceived friend

 

[Leumas]

You deceived friend

I'm not deceived about you.
I don't believe anything you say.

 

[Brightfame52]

What About Heb 1:3

All for whom Christ died, are by His Death/Blood Alone, Justified before God from all sin, this can be concluded also by Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

What sins ? These sins that were charged to Him 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Now the sins of all for whom He died, He hath purged them away. That word purged means:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ

Now actually, by Imputation, the Guilt of the sins of those Christ died for, is gone, done away with by the Offering of Christ.

All for whom He died therefore are Justified from all guilt of their sins !

It has been purged out of the sight of God and His Law, hence they are Justified, and none of these can ever die in their sins Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

This also means that those Christ has died for and purged away their guilt before God, will not always remain Unbelievers, for only those whom Christ did not die for shall continue in Unbelief and consequently die in their sins or will be found in them at His Coming !

This purging of their sins was done by Himself, not by anything they for whom He died for did or done !

 

[Leumas]

What About Heb 1:3

All for whom Christ died, are by His Death/Blood Alone, Justified before God from all sin, this can be concluded also by Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

What sins ? These sins that were charged to Him 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Now the sins of all for whom He died, He hath purged them away. That word purged means:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ

Now actually, by Imputation, the Guilt of the sins of those Christ died for, is gone, done away with by the Offering of Christ.

All for whom He died therefore are Justified from all guilt of their sins !

It has been purged out of the sight of God and His Law, hence they are Justified, and none of these can ever die in their sins Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

This also means that those Christ has died for and purged away their guilt before God, will not always remain Unbelievers, for only those whom Christ did not die for shall continue in Unbelief and consequently die in their sins or will be found in them at His Coming !

This purging of their sins was done by Himself, not by anything they for whom He died for did or done !

Do you actually believe all this
You have posted?

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified the Ungodly !

Though it is hotly denied by religionists, all those Christ died for are Justified before God solely on Christ's Death Merits, while they in and of themselves are sinners, ungodly, and enemies in their minds towards Him. They are while enemies forgiven of all Transgressions against God's Law, free from any curse of the law Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law[HOW], being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

That's how they are redeemed from the curse of the Law, not by believing, not by repenting, not by anything they did at all, but by Him being made a curse for them, meaning His Death !

So through His Death, they are , even while ungodly in themselves, Justified before God's law as through they never sinned. This Justification is made evident by Christ's Resurrection from the dead Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for[because of] our offences[transgressions, iniquities], and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

All this while they in themselves are being Ungodly ! The Natural Man cannot comprehend this Grace ! 6

 

[Bill]

What Religionists do not know or believe about Justification, that it is a legal Judicial act by the Sovereign Grace of God, for and of those Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. A legal declaring of them being acquitted from all legal guilt and transgressions of God's Law, and the deserved condemnation, this solely premised upon the vicarious Death of Christ, whereby all their law breaking guilt and condemnation was sovereignly charged to Christ, or imputed to Him, hence leaving them fully discharged, For all of God's law demands against them were fully satisfied, declaring also to them a perfect righteousness Heb 10:14, they have been cleared of all sin, and given a Righteousness based solely on the Merits of Christ Righteousness to the Law, as He [for them] kept it perfectly, in word, thought and deed, while living upon this Earth as a Man !

What of the rest of mankind, who stands for those who do not choose to be Christian as you see it maybe they don't stand up and scream from the housetops that I'm a Christian. Maybe they don't go to church on a regular basis. Maybe they don't have Fellowship like everyone else. Yes there are people who wouldn't claim to be Christian by any means and yet they go out of their way to do very Christian things like visiting people in the jail, or helping the sick. The Good Samaritan wasn't Christian, but he did the Christian thing. I would dare to say that being a Christian is not an outwardly thing but something of the heart

 

[Brightfame52]

What of the rest of mankind, who stands for those who do not choose to be Christian as you see it maybe they don't stand up and scream from the housetops that I'm a Christian. Maybe they don't go to church on a regular basis. Maybe they don't have Fellowship like everyone else. Yes there are people who wouldn't claim to be Christian by any means and yet they go out of their way to do very Christian things like visiting people in the jail, or helping the sick. The Good Samaritan wasn't Christian, but he did the Christian thing. I would dare to say that being a Christian is not an outwardly thing but something of the heart

Do you understand the post ?

 

[Bill]

Do you understand the post ?

Probably not LOL

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified by His Blood !

Justified by His Blood ! Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood[Knowing it by Faith], we shall be saved from wrath through him.

This is one verse the adversaries of Truth cannot deny, even though they do, which is that those Christ died for are Justified by His Blood or by His Death, and that while they have no faith. For Christ's Blood that Justified them was shed for them before they had being in themselves, but being the foreknown of God; And what was His Blood shed for or because of ? Why for their sins 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And He died for their sins before they had a actual being, so they were Justified before God from all their sins before they had an actual being, and so Justified by His Blood. It does not matter how this Truth is opposed, for the Resurrection of Christ from the dead, after dying for their sins, evidences or confirmed their Justification before God , by His Blood or Death Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

YLT who was delivered up because of our offences, and was raised up because of our being declared righteous.

That's an excellent Translation and agrees with OT scripture Isa 53:11

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

ESV Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.

This is Justification by His Blood Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Understand this, one for whom Christ died for in 33 ad, was Justified by His Blood then, though they may not have yet been given Faith to know it or realize it until 1958, when they believed. Their act of believing did not change what was already done and evidenced by Christ's Resurrection, their Justification by the Blood in 33 ad, and to say otherwise is to lie against the Truth, to bear false witness.6

 

[Brightfame52]

Probably not LOL

I didnt think so

 

[Bill]

I didnt think so

I didn't read it all the way through I just skimmed over it

 

[Brightfame52]

Justified through Redemption !

That one or those whom Christ died, that by His Death alone [apart from any act of the one died for] they are declared Justified before God before they believe, or even before they physically exist, this is true because by His Blood alone they were Redeemed, and through this very Redemption they were freely Justified . Eph 1:7

7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace

Rom 3:24-25

24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,

That word freely in Vs 24 is the greek word dōrean and means:

freely, undeservedly

The word is translated without cause here Jn 15:25

But [this cometh to pass], that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

Also the word undeserved gives the connotation that instead of deserving, we actually were in a state that deserved God's displeasure and wrath at the time He declared us Justified, we were blamable and unbefitting, reprehensible.

That's why Paul says that He Justifieth the Ungodly Rom 4:5

5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,

Now Faith in His Blood is a by product or outcome of Redemption through His Blood and the Faith is the means by which God reveals the Justification to the redeemed one !6