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While your waiting for the 'Rapture', what are doing with your time?

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Amethyst

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If you believe Jesus could return externally at any moment, are you out witnessing to others to help lead them to Jesus so they don't suffer the eternal torment of 'Hell-Fire'? - just think, never-ending horror, for the endless horizons of eternity.

Think of it like this.
If the earth was a huge steel ball, and there was a bird who circled the solor system every 100,000 years, and flapped it's wing on the steel ball each cycle, by the time the steel ball is worn down to nothing, ETERNITY has just begun.
 
Is there anyone here out helping others to escape ETERNAL DAMNATION?
I'd like to hear your methods, and how many hours in your day you spend.

Or, you just hanging out here waiting for the RAPTURE, so we can hang-out with the Lord IN THE AIR.
What a view that'll be.
 
Jesus could return externally at any moment,

do you have any scripture to back that up, I find scripture that says certain things have to happen before his return.

But yes to your overall message, we best be declaring the Lord to everyone we can
 
At this moment in time -- here in Texas weŕe surviving a major snowing, weather event, Maybe youve been hearing about some of us on the news recently.
Especially here in south, central Texas. Some of us finally have electric and heat. And some of us -- me included -- had a hidden inside small water pipe decide to come apart and share LOTS of water inside my apartment, Turns out that the shut off valve was outside at the corner under a couple feed of ground. We had to pull the bathroom stool so water would have somewhere to go. So -- at this particular time -- we are thankful to have electric back on since yesterday and will have water as soon as pipe can be replaced. As for the rapture timing -- probably on the verge of, but God is the only One who knows for sure.

And, yes, we Are to be sharing Gospel unto salvation when the situation presents itself.

The plumber available happens to live upstairs in this 4-plex I was up in he and his wifes apartment when he said that the shut-off had been found and water to all apartments was now off. I said Praise the Lord and that he was an answer to prayer. Have had a chance for some conversation. Iḿ old enough to be his mother shared that my youngest daughter is his age so heś been more open to me. Heś been a nonpracticing RCC for a long time.

This is no doubt the first time south-central texas has been thankful for above freezing temps. so we are weathering a trying time these days and weeks ahead
 
do you have any scripture to back that up, I find scripture that says certain things have to happen before his return.

But yes to your overall message, we best be declaring the Lord to everyone we can
I wrote, "If you believe Jesus could return externally at any moment"
I don't, his coming is internal.
 
At this moment in time -- here in Texas weŕe surviving a major snowing, weather event, Maybe youve been hearing about some of us on the news recently.
Especially here in south, central Texas. Some of us finally have electric and heat. And some of us -- me included -- had a hidden inside small water pipe decide to come apart and share LOTS of water inside my apartment, Turns out that the shut off valve was outside at the corner under a couple feed of ground. We had to pull the bathroom stool so water would have somewhere to go. So -- at this particular time -- we are thankful to have electric back on since yesterday and will have water as soon as pipe can be replaced. As for the rapture timing -- probably on the verge of, but God is the only One who knows for sure.

And, yes, we Are to be sharing Gospel unto salvation when the situation presents itself.

The plumber available happens to live upstairs in this 4-plex I was up in he and his wifes apartment when he said that the shut-off had been found and water to all apartments was now off. I said Praise the Lord and that he was an answer to prayer. Have had a chance for some conversation. Iḿ old enough to be his mother shared that my youngest daughter is his age so heś been more open to me. Heś been a nonpracticing RCC for a long time.

This is no doubt the first time south-central texas has been thankful for above freezing temps. so we are weathering a trying time these days and weeks ahead

Sure hope he does not die, sounds like he'd be headed for E T E R N A L D A M A T I O N, according to your belief.
Not that I believe in that doctrine, that came out of Rome around 553 AD under Justinian and his empress Theodora.
 
This was posted over two days ago, quite the sad commentary here based on the deep lack of response. Shows the real nature of 'Christianity' these days. Do you think God would leave the ETERNAL DESTINY of mankind up to the preaching of a cold and lukewarm 'church'?
Nope.
 
his coming is internal

Rev 1:7; Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

If it is only internal, I wonder how every eye will see Him? Even the unbelievers that pierced Him.

Also if it is only internal, how will He rule the entire world with a rod of iron? ( Rev 2:27; Rev 12:5; Rev 19:15; ) Even the unbelievers.

There is more... but those will do for a start.
 
quite the sad commentary here based on the deep lack of response. Shows the real nature of 'Christianity' these days.

Some of do community outreach, dinners for the homeless, shelters for the homeless. We have Bible studies, home groups (yes church also).
We talk to people about Jesus. We pray over houses in the neighborhood. We pray over people we know.
We teach Sunday school. We post messages on TalkJesus. We do ministries such as helping people move. We disciple people.
Sometimes we give homeless people jobs. Sometime we visit people in prison or nursing homes (well before Covid, we did)
This isn't all just me, but it's certainly people I know.

There are number of people here that believe in 'pre-destination' (I'm not one of them), but many of them don't believe in evangelizing, because God has already decided who is going to be saved, and who isn't
and nothing you can do will change that (that is not my opinion)
 
This was posted over two days ago, quite the sad commentary here based on the deep lack of response. Shows the real nature of 'Christianity' these days. Do you think God would leave the ETERNAL DESTINY of mankind up to the preaching of a cold and lukewarm 'church'?
Nope.


The deep lack of response Might just be because lots of us have been without electricity lately. You're aware of the state of the weather here in Texas. Especially south Texas. So let's not be too judgemental. Some of these local churches Are without electricity/ running water.
 
Sure hope he does not die, sounds like he'd be headed for E T E R N A L D A M A T I O N, according to your belief.
Not that I believe in that doctrine, that came out of Rome around 553 AD under Justinian and his empress Theodora.
I found your words sad , for you . Being Judgemental of a persons final outcome is not our job . Our job is to uplift , show compassion , be the helper , bring Gods love to those in despare . We are not called to break the bending reed nor put out the flickering flame . Those who do so will only iccur Gods wrath
 
Rev 1:7; Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

If it is only internal, I wonder how every eye will see Him? Even the unbelievers that pierced Him.

Also if it is only internal, how will He rule the entire world with a rod of iron? ( Rev 2:27; Rev 12:5; Rev 19:15; ) Even the unbelievers.

There is more... but those will do for a start.

Yup, Un-Spiritual eyes never see Jesus.
Thus, you are of them that Jesus spoke of in Luke 17:23 -
"They shall say Lo Here and Lo There, believe them NOT nor follow them."

Jack Van Impe and Perry Stone would be pround of you though.

I've not even started - Luke 17:23 is enough to expose all the false teachers and prophets.
I would rather them wallow in deception, than cast the pearls before the swine - let them dream in their superstitions, fables, legends and folklore.
 
Sure hope he does not die, sounds like he'd be headed for E T E R N A L D A M A T I O N, according to your belief.
Not that I believe in that doctrine, that came out of Rome around 553 AD under Justinian and his empress Theodora.


I'm curious as to why you're being so critical. And you said "according to your belief" -- my belief is in God's Word. Salvation is determined by where a person is placing their faith. On the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross and His bodily resurrection on the 3rd day as being sufficient OR if a person feels he needs to add his good works to the cross.

Everyone is going to die --except born again believers who are alive at the time of the rapture taking place.

There are some RCC people I know who Are born again. They trusted Christ while in the RCC and felt led to stay there and others have left and started going to a Baptist church where they heard Bible taught and were encouraged to read Bible on their own.
 
I'm curious as to why you're being so critical. And you said "according to your belief" -- my belief is in God's Word. Salvation is determined by where a person is placing their faith. On the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross and His bodily resurrection on the 3rd day as being sufficient OR if a person feels he needs to add his good works to the cross.

Everyone is going to die --except born again believers who are alive at the time of the rapture taking place.

There are some RCC people I know who Are born again. They trusted Christ while in the RCC and felt led to stay there and others have left and started going to a Baptist church where they heard Bible taught and were encouraged to read Bible on their own.



everyone is going to die that "lives after the flesh" - Romans 8:13.
Evidently, you don't plan on keeping the sayings of Jesus -
"He that keeps my sayings shall never see death" - John 8:51.

I dare you to tell me - 'That just means Spiritual Death'.
Or, that means, 'Eternal Death'.
 
everyone is going to die that "lives after the flesh" - Romans 8:13.
Evidently, you don't plan on keeping the sayings of Jesus -
"He that keeps my sayings shall never see death" - John 8:51.

I dare you to tell me - 'That just means Spiritual Death'.
Or, that means, 'Eternal Death'.

None of the original twelve apostles are still alive in the flesh walking around on the Earth.
In fact there are NO saints hundreds or thousands or years old still alive on the Earth.

I don't think anyone would say that this means "spiritual death", in fact it's just the opposite, our spirits live forever.
Eternal death - thats a subject debated here often. But most of us do not believe in annihilation. (a few do)
The righteous live eternally with God. The un-righteous live in eternal torment and damnation as you say.
(Who is righteous and un-righteous is another subject for another thread)

All of us, everyone of us will die in a sense, even those who are alive at the time of the rapture.
We will be changed, in the twinkling of an eye. Our old fleshly bodies will return to the dust
and we will be given new glorified/spiritual bodies.

1Cor 15:35 But someone will say, "How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?"
1Cor 15:36 You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies;
1Cor 15:37 and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else.
1Cor 15:38 But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own.
1Cor 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish.
1Cor 15:40 There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another.
1Cor 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.
1Cor 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body;
1Cor 15:43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
1Cor 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
1Cor 15:45 So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1Cor 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.
1Cor 15:47 The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.
1Cor 15:48 As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.
1Cor 15:49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.

1Cor 15:51; Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
1Cor 15:52; in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1Cor 15:53; For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

John 11:25; Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies,

John 12:24; "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.

Job 34:15; All flesh would perish together, And man would return to dust.
Psa 90:3; You turn man back into dust And say, "Return, O children of men."
Psa 104:29; You hide Your face, they are dismayed; You take away their spirit, they expire And return to their dust.
Ecc 3:20; All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust.
Ecc 12:7; then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Isa 26:19; Your dead will live; Their corpses will rise. You who lie in the dust, awake and shout for joy, For your dew is as the dew of the dawn, And the earth will give birth to the departed spirits.
Mark 12:25; "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Mark 12:26; "But regarding the fact that the dead rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the burning bush, how God spoke to him, saying, 'I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, and the God of Jacob'?
1Thes 4:16; For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.


Usually when people dare other people, it's because they have a chip on their shoulder.
 
Thus, you are of them that Jesus spoke of in Luke 17:23 -
"They shall say Lo Here and Lo There, believe them NOT nor follow them."

Jack Van Impe and Perry Stone would be pround of you though.

I've not even started - Luke 17:23 is enough to expose all the false teachers and prophets.
I would rather them wallow in deception, than cast the pearls before the swine - let them dream in their superstitions, fables, legends and folklore.

True enough, but what does this have to do with the rapture and our "spare" time?
I am in agreement with some of the things you say (if not the way you say it).
But rather than quoting scriptures about false teachers and false prophets (I agree there are many).
Maybe it would be more beneficial to quote the biblical truths, instead of focusing on the lies. (some times they overlap)

It's fine to say someone is a false prophet and a liar, but simply saying it, doesn't make it true.
Post the false doctrines, and the scriptures that oppose these teachings. Then you have a case.
 
Yup, Un-Spiritual eyes never see Jesus.

And yet Rev 1:7; says "ALL" will see Him. Even those who pierced Him. "ALL" the nations will mourn,

..why will they mourn? They didn't recognize Him before this, and now it's too late.

Isa 45:23; "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.
Rom_14:11; For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD."

EVERY knee, EVERY tongue... not just believers. But they will believe on that day... but it will too late.

2Cor 5:10; For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
 
And yet Rev 1:7; says "ALL" will see Him. Even those who pierced Him. "ALL" the nations will mourn,

..why will they mourn? They didn't recognize Him before this, and now it's too late.

Isa 45:23; "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.
Rom_14:11; For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD."

EVERY knee, EVERY tongue... not just believers. But they will believe on that day... but it will too late.

2Cor 5:10; For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

See how you entered cognitive dissonance with Luke 17:23 ?

Does your Bible say in Colossians 1:27 "Christ outside of you, the hope of glory"?

Be careful with quoting Romans 14:11 on this site, you might be banned for being a Universalist - they don't like the Abrahamic Covenant here - Acts 3:19-26 is heresy to them.
 
@Amethyst -- you seem to take pleasure at tearing into Scripture and people. What is your point in all of this? Sounds like you don't like this cite? Why are you here? Just curious. That is based on your previous post.
 
See how you entered cognitive dissonance with Luke 17:23 ?

Does your Bible say in Colossians 1:27 "Christ outside of you, the hope of glory"?

Be careful with quoting Romans 14:11 on this site, you might be banned for being a Universalist - they don't like the Abrahamic Covenant here - Acts 3:19-26 is heresy to them.
Dear Amethyst,
You do have a hard time listening it appears. I've told you to take care how you respond in your postings, but so far you've decided to ignore my warnings and continue as if I'd said nothing.
You'll be warned as soon as I'm done posting this, and if you'd like to discuss this further with me. You are welcome to Private Message me, at which time I'll ask another Staff Member to join us in the conversation so that all can be above board in our communications. However, know that your continuing to being obnoxious in your posting, you will be banned.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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