What was the real message Jesus preached througout His ministry?

[judge not]

Right, and if we translate it this way as the power to rule with, or have God rule over, or have God's will for you here as it is in Heaven, then a whole lot of scriptures make sense.

But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God (Power, rule and will of God) is come upon you.
(Luk 11:20)

Hi- yes we are under the authority of Jesus's power as Christians. God rules our lives now. But we have to collectively look to God's coming world dominion when the basileia will be fully established.
Most of the time when basileia is used it denotes a literal Kingdom- Matt 25:34, Rev 20"4-6
Jordan, a middle Eastern country is a Kingdom- a literal place
In simple terns, the Magic Kingdom is a place we go to at Disney world- a literal place.
A Kingdom must have a ruler, subjects, laws and territory.
we are experiencing God's sovereignty in our lives now but Revelation shows us we will be living
and reigning with Him in a literal Kingdom (territory) after the second coming of Christ.
When Jesus was telling the Pharisees the " Kingdom of God is within you " He could not be meaning
that God's Kingdom was within them, after all they wanted to destroy Him.

We are heirs of the Kingdom-thy Kingdom come-and that inheritance doesn't come until after Christ returns.

 

[Curtis]

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Hope comes from the Word of God, and without this hope or Word we are without God, and Christ in this world. The Word of God gives "light", and bring "revelation" only to the "heart" of man.
The Kingdom of God is a Kingdom of "knowing", and of "understanding" which just so happen to be "Wisdom". Wisdom rests in the heart of the man who has "understanding".
The man who has "eternal" life is the man who "knows" God. Knowing God only comes about through understanding which is Wisdom, that comes from the mouth of God. The Lord gives Wisdom, out of his mouth comes "knowledge", and " understanding". If we have no wisdom or understanding then we have nothing and we will continuously abide in "darkness". Jesus came to "destroy" the works of darkness, by bring the light of the Gospel of the Kingdom into this dark world. Death is destroyed and darkness expelled by a new kind of "information" which pierces the darkness of death and brings "life" to those sitting in darkness.
It is "revelation" given by the Spirit of God that gives life. To be without the Word of God there is only darkness, and death. Jesus destroyed death by bringing life, and mortality it light though the Gospel.

2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

 

[Byfaith]

Hi- yes we are under the authority of Jesus's power as Christians. God rules our lives now. But we have to collectively look to God's coming world dominion when the basileia will be fully established.
Most of the time when basileia is used it denotes a literal Kingdom- Matt 25:34, Rev 20"4-6

I don't disagree. It can be used to not be a literal Kingdom as we Rule with Jesus in the Earth Territory. When his "Rule, with us" is established We rule with on the foundation of the World. I can't stop thinking it's a Greek female noun which can never be a actual place but part of something.

Faith is a Female noun. It has to be understood in the article as faith in what.

Wedding is a Female noun, but does not denote who's wedding.

Apostasia is a Female noun, but does not denote what was departed from.

As a female noun, I see it as a rule with something or something God's rule over.

However, Salvation does not mean born again or eternal life. It's Greek to be physically healed, delivered. For lack of a better Greek Word to explain the new concept, I can see where it's used to mean born again, and eternal life. So you may be correct.

Be blessed.

 

[Travis]

However, Salvation does not mean born again or eternal life. It's Greek to be physically healed, delivered. For lack of a better Greek Word to explain the new concept, I can see where it's used to mean born again, and eternal life. So you may be correct.

Whom did you study Greek under?

 

[Byfaith]

Whom did you study Greek under?

Who the Heck wants to study Greek Travis. I suppose some find it interesting, but I find that many use their studies in Hebrew and Greek to remove simple concepts. Like Aionios, A Greek Adjective, and they say it's the same as Aion being a male noun, not knowing that Aionios just continues unless defined in the article. The Car will be blue Aionios, unless someone paints it read.

That's the sad thing Travis, I do know a little about Greek. Should not be that way,I fully believe Concept is far more important than the actual meaning of the Word. How was it used, what is the concept.

I mean, if you spill Paint all over my table and microwave, down into my TV and I say, Amazing Travis, your the most awesome person to me right now. I can promise the concept is not that your on my most liked persons list at that exact moment. Still love you though, how you feel is far more important than "Things"

No Travis, I am not a fan of digging into Hebrew and Greek. It's out of years of running into so many silly doctrines that do. I am talking years. Should not be that way. If Jesus said some go to eternal punishment and some to eternal (Everlasting KJV) life, then Aionios Zoe is foever and Anionios Kolasis is also forever and unending.

Don't take understanding any Greek to get that concept. for some, it's not as simple as that though.

be blessed.
Grandma home from the hospital, still breathing. A good thing, right?

 

[Ophel]

As a Christian we live in two realms at the same time. The physical, and the spiritual. With our physical bodies we contact the earthly world ,and with our spirit the Kingdom of Heaven in which we have already been translated into. The Kingdom of God is "transportable" and we bring it with us were ever we go, yet there is a stationary place where the Kingdom is set. Where ever God rests and sits on his throne is the permanent place, which is mount Zion the city of the living God, for he has chosen it to be the place of his rest forever.

Psa 132:13 For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
Psa 132:14 This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it.

The Lord's exact place of his rest is were his light emanates from. It is the source of his presence that spreads out throughout all eternity, and time. We are light in the Lord, and his light emanates out from us which is the Kingdoms environment in which all of his children dwell within. This is the Kingdom that all children of God bring with them where ever they go on this earth. Jesus said he brought the Kingdom with him....

Mat 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Amen!

Luke 17:21
They can’t say, ‘Here it is!’ or ‘There it is!’ You see, the kingdom of God is within you.”

 

[judge not]

I don't disagree. It can be used to not be a literal Kingdom as we Rule with Jesus in the Earth Territory. When his "Rule, with us" is established We rule with on the foundation of the World. I can't stop thinking it's a Greek female noun which can never be a actual place but part of something.

Faith is a Female noun. It has to be understood in the article as faith in what.

Wedding is a Female noun, but does not denote who's wedding.

Apostasia is a Female noun, but does not denote what was departed from.

As a female noun, I see it as a rule with something or something God's rule over.

However, Salvation does not mean born again or eternal life. It's Greek to be physically healed, delivered. For lack of a better Greek Word to explain the new concept, I can see where it's used to mean born again, and eternal life. So you may be correct.

Be blessed.

Hello- Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says the Greek word for Kingdom is ' basileia ' and calls it an abstract noun denoting sovereignty, royal power,
which also can be a concrete noun, denoting the territory over whom a King rules....
Colossians 1:13 - "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness and hath translated us into the Kingdom of His dear Son".
I believe this case means that the Christian is no longer under the dominion of evil (darkness) but now under the benevolent rule of Christ.
Context and time frame is relevant when characterizing the meaning.
And of course we have to look at the prophecies of the coming Kingdom of God-Jesus Christ's rulership and reign by the major prophets - Dan 7:27, , Isaiah 9.
Were they talking about a literal physical Kingdom or a mindset?

 

[Itz Me]

Who the Heck wants to study Greek Travis. I suppose some find it interesting, but I find that many use their studies in Hebrew and Greek to remove simple concepts. Like Aionios, A Greek Adjective, and they say it's the same as Aion being a male noun, not knowing that Aionios just continues unless defined in the article. The Car will be blue Aionios, unless someone paints it read.

That's the sad thing Travis, I do know a little about Greek. Should not be that way,I fully believe Concept is far more important than the actual meaning of the Word. How was it used, what is the concept.

I mean, if you spill Paint all over my table and microwave, down into my TV and I say, Amazing Travis, your the most awesome person to me right now. I can promise the concept is not that your on my most liked persons list at that exact moment. Still love you though, how you feel is far more important than "Things"

No Travis, I am not a fan of digging into Hebrew and Greek. It's out of years of running into so many silly doctrines that do. I am talking years. Should not be that way. If Jesus said some go to eternal punishment and some to eternal (Everlasting KJV) life, then Aionios Zoe is foever and Anionios Kolasis is also forever and unending.

Don't take understanding any Greek to get that concept. for some, it's not as simple as that though.

be blessed.
Grandma home from the hospital, still breathing. A good thing, right?

Hi! 'By Faith'
I laffed aloud when reading your frustration about learning Greek.
Yeah, I know only a few dozen Greek derived words and a few Hebrew too myself. That's because I felt compelled to chase them down when I became seriously invested in some extensive study 'er whatever. But other than that, I can't say that the Bible is, "All Greek tuh me!" However, I should add that I do know several enthusiastic Christians friends who who sometimes become eager to impress by parroting the Strong's Concordance or jabbering some text from the Interlinear.
Nevertheless, there are occasions when knowing the original intent and derivative of the original language can prove to be an immense study help. For instance, I recall that more than 35 yrs ago, I conducted some research concerning a word found in Genesis. It was meaning to say that the universe was constantly expanding. At the time, this concept was entirely unknown by physicists until Einstein first expressed the theory in 1917. During the early 90's, I happened to be watching Discovery Channel and astonishingly viewed the ever-expanding universe subject being addressed which happily confirmed the intent of the original word which I had studied those many years before.
I do own an extensive Christian library and the books were an immense help and blessing during my early Christian walk. I was so utterly messed up when I first heard the Gospel, that my Pastor became so frustrated with me that he exclaimed, "You're the most UN-Normal Christian I've ever met!". The next day, I frantically visited a Christian book store and asked about buying a book which would help me become a 'normal' Christian. The kind lady behind the counter suggested, "The Normal Christian Life' by Watchman Nee which jus' 'bout drowned me with incomprehensible knowledge at the time. Thankfully, I also purchased another book at the time which was titled, "The Christian's Secret of a Happy Life" which proved to be a cherished life-saver for me. Yes, I also own a few Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek translations which I only dig up when I'm desperate to comprehend some biblical idea or concept. But most times they sit on the shelf gathering dust now.
Ummm, on the lighter side of things, I did marry a Greek girl who had fluid understanding of the language. She was lots of fun to listen to while she stumbled through to express the English interpretation. In the end, my former Greek wife taught me more about Algebra than theology because I was compelled to learn the harsh reality of Y my X decided to divorce.

 

[Byfaith]

I do own an extensive Christian library and the books were an immense help and blessing during my early Christian walk. I was so utterly messed up when I first heard the Gospel, that my Pastor became so frustrated with me that he exclaimed, "You're the most UN-Normal Christian I've ever met!"

Thank you for sharing this, it really blessed me. could be you could help out with some of these Greek words thrown around here. Thank you again.

A wife that knows Greek? Mine speaks English, and I still don't get where she is coming from most time.

 

[Itz Me]

Thank you for sharing this, it really blessed me. could be you could help out with some of these Greek words thrown around here. Thank you again.

A wife that knows Greek? Mine speaks English, and I still don't get where she is coming from most time.

Hi! 'ByFaith'
Yeah, husbands jus' don't seem to get it about their wifes, ay? It took me much too long to figure out, (as yous said), "where she is coming from"
Perhaps, if I had better understood the derivative of the term Greek Hellenistic history, I would have at least had some vague forewarning of where she had come from ... hell.
Of course I'm jus' jokin' with yuh. On the other hand, there's always an element of truth behind every bit of humor.
Ummm, I occasionally drop in here once-in-awhile fer a few dayz jus' tuh see which way duh wind might be blowin' sortta' thing. Participating here is a wonderful way to discern what our Lord has been speaking to others about.
Chad has really put a lot of selfless effort into this Site! His talents are in much evidence and I've very much enjoyed watching it grow over the past 2-3 years. We would do well to keep mention of Chad in our prayers.
Keep Smiling!

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Did the gospels just simply tell us the story of the life and death of Jesus Christ the leads to our salvation or was there deeper information Jesus had for us? What do you think the main theme or purpose of Jesus's teachings was while He was on earth with us?

Hello Judge not,
For one thing Jesus taught us He is the only way to the Father......
However He also taught us about faith and how the enemy comes at us and walking in Love and Forgiveness and he also taught us we are blessed and He had given us peace and life more abundant. He taught us how to live once we got into this kingdom of God.
Blessings
Jim

 

[Bendito]

Did the gospels just simply tell us the story of the life and death of Jesus Christ the leads to our salvation or was there deeper information Jesus had for us? What do you think the main theme or purpose of Jesus's teachings was while He was on earth with us?

This is the entire gospel that Jesus preached while he was on the Earth. It's the same gospel we are to preach..
Luke 4:17-19King James Version (KJV)
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Poor people! You don't have to be poor anymore! Anyone who needs healing. You can be healed! Anybody in bondage to anything. You can be set free and you blind folks Recieve your sight! and to preach that now is a time of favor from God!