What now?
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Brother Mike
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Loss of a son.
your son was 44 years old.... so who is the We that were believing......
What exactly do you believe about healing.
You said God could have spared you the Pain, but Choose not to......
The scripture says that by his Stripes we are healed. That is something Already done.......... Not something God is going to choose to do.
There are lots of reasons loved ones die.......... your son was 44 years old and should have his own relationship with God..
I was told my son at 8 was going to die of cancer.. That he would not make it the next day.... ha ha devil... The devil is not that big...
However, I am not responsible for my son receiving healing now. He has to believe on his own... He has to have that relationship with God.
Your tongue acts like a rudder of a ship... the moment something happens, what you speak sets the course of that thing. Sometimes, you can't get it turned around quick enough....Jesus said you have what you say....
Also, not following the plan of God can cause a early death... I have seen it more than once.........
So........ It's not God's fault here. It's not your fault, and it's good that you did believe something. This is between God and your son, and you will see him soon enough, because he did not die... He just left his earth suite.....
you don't know everything......... and even if the Lord does not show us what happened......... we can still have confidence that God can still be trusted, and his Word does not fail............
Jesus Is Lord
your son was 44 years old.... so who is the We that were believing......
What exactly do you believe about healing.
You said God could have spared you the Pain, but Choose not to......
The scripture says that by his Stripes we are healed. That is something Already done.......... Not something God is going to choose to do.
There are lots of reasons loved ones die.......... your son was 44 years old and should have his own relationship with God..
I was told my son at 8 was going to die of cancer.. That he would not make it the next day.... ha ha devil... The devil is not that big...
However, I am not responsible for my son receiving healing now. He has to believe on his own... He has to have that relationship with God.
Your tongue acts like a rudder of a ship... the moment something happens, what you speak sets the course of that thing. Sometimes, you can't get it turned around quick enough....Jesus said you have what you say....
Also, not following the plan of God can cause a early death... I have seen it more than once.........
So........ It's not God's fault here. It's not your fault, and it's good that you did believe something. This is between God and your son, and you will see him soon enough, because he did not die... He just left his earth suite.....
you don't know everything......... and even if the Lord does not show us what happened......... we can still have confidence that God can still be trusted, and his Word does not fail............
Jesus Is Lord
ReenieK
Member
Our son was a believer and had a close relationship with God. He believed God was going to heal him..we KNOW that "by His stripes we are healed..." we spoke only scripture between ourselves and never doubted that God had a big miracle in store for us. The rest of the "we" was family, friends and several church bodies who were all praying and believing. I am just trying to reconcile myself to the outcome, and naturally I am grieving and missing him. I hate it that other Christians infer that something was wrong with your faith or there was sin present or whatever. This makes THEM feel better, but really twists the knife in the heart of the one who has suffered the loss. To me, that is the worst form of judging.
Boanerges
Member
My friend, do not take that to heart and do not let someone else judge you or your son by their limited experience. Everyone dies and that is a fact. For us believers it is a sure promotion, for those that are left behind the going is rough but we know that we will see them again. Every time I feel grief over the personal loss of a loved one we should stop and thank our Father that they are with Him and that we will see them again. We never lose anything we trust in Jesus hands.
Much love and many blessings,
your brother Larry.
sunshineaaks
Member
I am sorry for the pain you suffer at the death of your son. You are the ones who suffer, not your son. October 11th is also so very recent and raw for you all right now and there may not seem to be any comfort from anyone including God. But He is always there holding you up.
Your prayers were answered as they were with my father 1 Corinthians 15:40:45.
Your son no longer has pain, nor does he have the sorrow sin brings to one's life. He is healed in the most miraculous way. And it will take time to heal that gaping wound left behind with his absence.
sunshineaaks
Member
I wonder,,,,,, if an unbeliever is healed from cancer........ does that mean their faith was strong?
Brother Mike
Member
Unbeliever.............
I am in the healing, Faith ministry... and have been teaching it for several years.
for unbelievers it is very easy to receive healing from God....
As we mature in the Word, more is expected.... I believe larger now, and operate on a higher level... that means more is required of me as much has been given....
My point is that your faith and prayers for someone are powerful and dynamic to the Lord. Not all can believe, not all have everything right with God, not all understand...
Someone with a relationship with God, and knows him can go to him and ask on someone's behalf.... it's the most powerful thing we can do for others... That is pray and believe the best for them when everyone has given up.
My own son was healed of cancer.... They said he would not live until the next day... he was eight... I knew for a fact God always keeps his Word and I was not moved by that... If anything was wrong or needed changed, God would have let me know... God is faithful.... and good.
If my son Got sick now... I would pray and believe for him just like I did when he was eight... However, he has been around enough healing and around enough of God's goodness, to have his own relationship with God. I can agree with him, but it's really between him and God....
I have told my children this.... My faith is not going to always help you... time to be a man....
Being in the so called faith circles is hard for those that have lost a close loved one...... people look at you like.... (Don't you dare say it's God's fault, and that there was not some unknown sin, or you really believed enough)..
The faith circles are filled with some very immature people that have never gone though anything major.. and they will, and be judged as they have judged others..... They better have real faith....Never confess the opposite, never get in fear or doubt... NEVER.... They will be tried just as they have judged.....
Seeing some men of faith die early... ones that did believe in Healing.. ones that always had that positive confession you have to understand something..... If they die, it's between them and God.. and you better believe it's not God's fault....
My point is... we don't know everything... We don't know if God told them to do something years ago and they just refused to get around doing it..... We just don't know....
Sickness is part of the curse and we are redeemed from that. To sit around and second guess things or wonder why is what caused Job to sit around wonder why God allowed this to happen to him..Job based everything on his righteousness.....
Not one time did job call out and ask God for help.... The whole thing could have been over lots sooner.... We don't want to be like that...
We don't have to understand everything. It's not our fault things happen, and it's got nothing to do with lack of faith....or sin
It is between that person and God.............
But whatever happens, does not Change who God said he is........
Jesus Is Lord.
I am in the healing, Faith ministry... and have been teaching it for several years.
for unbelievers it is very easy to receive healing from God....
As we mature in the Word, more is expected.... I believe larger now, and operate on a higher level... that means more is required of me as much has been given....
My point is that your faith and prayers for someone are powerful and dynamic to the Lord. Not all can believe, not all have everything right with God, not all understand...
Someone with a relationship with God, and knows him can go to him and ask on someone's behalf.... it's the most powerful thing we can do for others... That is pray and believe the best for them when everyone has given up.
My own son was healed of cancer.... They said he would not live until the next day... he was eight... I knew for a fact God always keeps his Word and I was not moved by that... If anything was wrong or needed changed, God would have let me know... God is faithful.... and good.
If my son Got sick now... I would pray and believe for him just like I did when he was eight... However, he has been around enough healing and around enough of God's goodness, to have his own relationship with God. I can agree with him, but it's really between him and God....
I have told my children this.... My faith is not going to always help you... time to be a man....
Being in the so called faith circles is hard for those that have lost a close loved one...... people look at you like.... (Don't you dare say it's God's fault, and that there was not some unknown sin, or you really believed enough)..
The faith circles are filled with some very immature people that have never gone though anything major.. and they will, and be judged as they have judged others..... They better have real faith....Never confess the opposite, never get in fear or doubt... NEVER.... They will be tried just as they have judged.....
Seeing some men of faith die early... ones that did believe in Healing.. ones that always had that positive confession you have to understand something..... If they die, it's between them and God.. and you better believe it's not God's fault....
My point is... we don't know everything... We don't know if God told them to do something years ago and they just refused to get around doing it..... We just don't know....
Sickness is part of the curse and we are redeemed from that. To sit around and second guess things or wonder why is what caused Job to sit around wonder why God allowed this to happen to him..Job based everything on his righteousness.....
Not one time did job call out and ask God for help.... The whole thing could have been over lots sooner.... We don't want to be like that...
We don't have to understand everything. It's not our fault things happen, and it's got nothing to do with lack of faith....or sin
It is between that person and God.............
But whatever happens, does not Change who God said he is........
Jesus Is Lord.
01redeemed
Member
I'm Sorry
I am sorry for your loss. Truly i am. And these questions often come up after agreat loss causes such severe pain.
I am reminded at these times of loss that even though Jesus could have called down angels or brought himself down from the cross He did not. He chose to suffer the pain even though He could have been spared from it. He chose this because of the great love He has for us. He gave us more than relief from our present suffering. He gave us eternal life.
The truth is I can give you reasons why but it will not lessen your pain. And the only one who can offer you the comfort you need is the one who has suffered this great a loss as well. And not only that but suffered it willingly so that your son could be and would be His. And one day He will be able to wipe away EVERY TEAR from you eyes and say to you..."No more pain and no more death". It has already been done and the victory is already yours in Jesus Christ. Your son awaits you (healed he is), and is in the arms of God. May this speak to your heart and help in you pain. The Lord, He is good.
I am sorry for your loss. Truly i am. And these questions often come up after agreat loss causes such severe pain.
I am reminded at these times of loss that even though Jesus could have called down angels or brought himself down from the cross He did not. He chose to suffer the pain even though He could have been spared from it. He chose this because of the great love He has for us. He gave us more than relief from our present suffering. He gave us eternal life.
The truth is I can give you reasons why but it will not lessen your pain. And the only one who can offer you the comfort you need is the one who has suffered this great a loss as well. And not only that but suffered it willingly so that your son could be and would be His. And one day He will be able to wipe away EVERY TEAR from you eyes and say to you..."No more pain and no more death". It has already been done and the victory is already yours in Jesus Christ. Your son awaits you (healed he is), and is in the arms of God. May this speak to your heart and help in you pain. The Lord, He is good.
Sapphire Spirit
Member
Condolences
I am so sorry for your loss. I know that it must hurt now, but you will see him again. He's in heaven waiting for you and he is no longer in any pain. You'll be in my prayers. God be with you,
Sapphire Spirit.
I am so sorry for your loss. I know that it must hurt now, but you will see him again. He's in heaven waiting for you and he is no longer in any pain. You'll be in my prayers. God be with you,
Sapphire Spirit.
RJ
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Maureen,
First and foremost, I am sadened about your loss and I pray that you come to a higher understanding about what has happened and find peace in that knowledge.
I know very little in this life that can be as hard as loosing a child, probably for most there is nothing that can compare and my heart aches for your loss.
If there is one thing I have found out about TJ, it's that there are a wide variety of beliefs in one thing or another and one is the power of healing. I too believe that God heals but in my 62 years, I have never witnessed it my self.
But, I would say please don't say that God chose not to help. That, in my opinion is simply not true. I know you are hurt and prayed with all your might to rescue your son but, his dying is not a result of God not answering your prayers; we simply don't have the knowledge of the Supreme Being and what he dose or doesn't due to make that kind of conclusion.... How do you know for sure that God didn't spare your son any further pain?
Again, It is only natural that you morn your loss but, your son being a true Christian, you can't morn for your him, he has made it home and is perfect in every way.
If you are not aware of it, I can show you that, in fact, your are with your son now.
I pray for your peace and understanding the truth that can set you free and please don't let this incident put you into any type of bondage that God did this, doesn't care or love you deeply!
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